TTP negotiations spark furore in Senate

[hussain0216]

That is all bullshit, this ideology was imported against USSR just like this govt. In the service of the mighty US, our establishment created more than 4000 madrassas and brainwashed them and prepared them. Pashtuns have always been peace loving and welcoming people. The state of Pakistan is suffering from diseases this traitor establishment been injecting to the nation. It peoves that these snakes have been created by the same army who so eagerly wants to negotiate.

They want to negotiate because something seriously wrong has happened to pashtuna

It's the reality

TTP, Taliban are all Pashtun

We have the power to bomb eastern Afghanistan into the ground, but if we do it will mean thousands of dead pashtun

10000 dead TTP = 100000 dead pashtun, then the pashtun populace acts crazy as if innocent people were targeted


It's easier just to negotiate, push and keep the TTP and Taliban across in Afghanistan and let them ruin and destroy their own afghan population

 

[TNT]

They want to negotiate because something seriously wrong has happened to pashtuna

It's the reality

TTP, Taliban are all Pashtun

We have the power to bomb eastern Afghanistan into the ground, but if we do it will mean thousands of dead pashtun

10000 dead TTP = 100000 dead pashtun, then the pashtun populace acts crazy as if innocent people were targeted


It's easier just to negotiate, push and keep the TTP and Taliban across in Afghanistan and let them ruin and destroy their own afghan population

Pashtun tribals fought taliban themselves. Its the army that keeps feeding these snakes, why r still all the madrassas running?
Secondly after seeing the reality of these generals i doubt they can even bomb somalia. They r only tough against unarmed civilians, they wont fight even a weaker enemy. If pashtun populace rose against them, they would be running back to india.

 

[hussain0216]

Pashtun tribals fought taliban themselves. Its the army that keeps feeding these snakes, why r still all the madrassas running?
Secondly after seeing the reality of these generals i doubt they can even bomb somalia. They r only tough against unarmed civilians, they wont fight even a weaker enemy. If pashtun populace rose against them, they would be running back to india.

Pashtun tribals are the main source of TTP fighters

But if we kill a TTP member tomorrow the same tribals, dawars, khattaks and pashteens are outside claiming we killed a innocent man

It's a impossible situation


So what do we do, go hard and clear the area, bomb multiple areas in Afghanistan to destroy them and then face ethnocentric pashtun politics


Or negotiate and let them destroy themselves



Now they have even been hit by earthquakes, thousands dead


It's better to let the afghans face the consequences of their own ethnocentric stupidity

 

[TNT]

Pashtun tribals are the main source of TTP fighters

But if we kill a TTP member tomorrow the same tribals, dawars, khattaks and pashteens are outside claiming we killed a innocent man

It's a impossible situation


So what do we do, go hard and clear the area, bomb multiple areas in Afghanistan to destroy them and then face ethnocentric pashtun politics


Or negotiate and let them destroy themselves



Now they have even been hit by earthquakes, thousands dead


It's better to let the afghans face the consequences of their own ethnocentric stupidity

That is a lame excuse. You think people are stupid and blind? When army kills ordinary pashtuns and claims killing taliban while at same time help taliban take control then ppl will be angry at army. These taliban are creation of army and establishment, now u want to blame pashtuns? Who run the madrassas that produce these taliban? Why r they not shut down? Instead blaming pashtuns is pathetic.

 

[hussain0216]

That is a lame excuse. You think people are stupid and blind? When army kills ordinary pashtuns and claims killing taliban while at same time help taliban take control then ppl will be angry at army. These taliban are creation of army and establishment, now u want to blame pashtuns? Who run the madrassas that produce these taliban? Why r they not shut down? Instead blaming pashtuns is pathetic.

There is nothing lame about it

Religion doesn't run the TTP, Lar aur Bar guides them

Ethnocentric extremism and jahilat has ruined the afghans and tribals, they have divided and destroyed Afghanistan and only the Pakistani military has stopped them from doing the same in Pakistan


The problem is we can't deal with the problem, we can't hunt or destroy them because any attempt brings the ethnocentric pashtun/afghans out to claim we are killing innocent people

It's a IMPOSSIBLE situation

They pushed as many our into Afghanistan as possible, they then built the border to try and stop them from getting back in


If the locals in the tribal areas behaved like decent citizens, then we could identify the TTP, arrest and detain or kill

But the areas are full of jahils and lar aur bar types who consider selling out fellow pashtun who are part of TTP as a travesty



Honestly the choice is go hard and use the full might of the military to flatten eastern Afghanistan, but then face ethnocentric jahilat from the tribals claiming we are targeting innocent people or THIS where through negotiation we keep the idiots inside Afghanistan and hell even letbteh tribals some autonomy where they ruin their own lives a d lives of their own women and children but stop the terrorism and bombing

 

[YaqoobAlam]

Meanwhile soldiers beheaded in Wazeeristan as per reports.

I remember seeing FC facing that treatment. But that was years ago.
Has it started happening again?

 

[TNT]

There is nothing lame about it

Religion doesn't run the TTP, Lar aur Bar guides them

Ethnocentric extremism and jahilat has ruined the afghans and tribals, they have divided and destroyed Afghanistan and only the Pakistani military has stopped them from doing the same in Pakistan


The problem is we can't deal with the problem, we can't hunt or destroy them because any attempt brings the ethnocentric pashtun/afghans out to claim we are killing innocent people

It's a IMPOSSIBLE situation

They pushed as many our into Afghanistan as possible, they then built the border to try and stop them from getting back in


If the locals in the tribal areas behaved like decent citizens, then we could identify the TTP, arrest and detain or kill

But the areas are full of jahils and lar aur bar types who consider selling out fellow pashtun who are part of TTP as a travesty



Honestly the choice is go hard and use the full might of the military to flatten eastern Afghanistan, but then face ethnocentric jahilat from the tribals claiming we are targeting innocent people or THIS where through negotiation we keep the idiots inside Afghanistan and hell even letbteh tribals some autonomy where they ruin their own lives a d lives of their own women and children but stop the terrorism and bombing

Man u have no idea what u r talking about. U are absolutely wrong about pashtuns. Lar o bar claimants where afghan nationalists and leftists, they were staunchly anti religion. On Pakistan side were ANP and achakzai types, who r anti religion. The taliban are religious extremists and don't recognize any border in the world. Eastern pashtuns have always been different than western, its been centuries they separated. Do u know there have been wars between current Afghanistan pashtuns and Pakistan pashtuns? I doubt u know shit because u r talking like a dummy.
This traitor establishment created madrassas with CIA and saudi money and kept producing foot soldiers even after USSR defeat. These brainwashed mullahs are still B team of army and i think they will use these taliban and other terrorists against the people of Pakistan if the people rose up and a revolution was happening.
This army doesn't have the guts to fight anyone, these r property dealers and businessmen, not warriors. They cant face their prime enemy india, what makes u think they can kill pashtuns?

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

I remember seeing FC facing that treatment. But that was years ago.
Has it started happening again?

I have seen PJeets celebrating beheadings of Pakistani soldiers by rebels in Wazeeristan (TTP most likely).

Btw TTP which was asking US help few months ago is now so afraid of Americans that in their new statement they didn't even mention US

They just wrote "Slave Army" before if used go be "American Slave Army". Phatti pari he TTP ki America se.


This was one if the main points there are many other ch*tiyapas in that statement.

 

[313ghazi]

The mental gymnastics people will do to facilitate the cowardice of the current army leadership is ridiculous.

Where was this pushtun super army when the army was headed by Raheel Sharif?

Why do you people ignore the tribal lashkars of tens of thousands who have fought alongside Pakistan army?

Do they not count as pushtun enough?

It's just excuses for cowardice.

 

[SD 10]

That is a lame excuse. You think people are stupid and blind? When army kills ordinary pashtuns and claims killing taliban while at same time help taliban take control then ppl will be angry at army. These taliban are creation of army and establishment, now u want to blame pashtuns? Who run the madrassas that produce these taliban? Why r they not shut down? Instead blaming pashtuns is pathetic.

they cant fight........... by looking at the current political fiasco, one can clearly look at all the clues of a stagnant mindset in the leadership of establishment....... they are simply afraid of something as nimble as ttp, guess that's what happens when the military becomes an economic institution!