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The guide was arrested!
Surprising that the terrorists killed one guide but tied up and gagged 2 other guides. Why didn't they kill all witnesses?
The lone Chinese survivor and guides would reveal some info...
These attacks should be stopped. Gilgit Baltistan has become a hotbed for strife in this nation and no one is doing anything to end the bloodshed taking place. Taliban should be utterly vanquished. I believe an operation is required in Gilgit Baltistan as well.
The Taliban have been rampaging in Gilgit Baltistan for years. [/B
Ok here is what i read on Duniya news website ticker and they dont give any details..
" police arrests 35 suspects from the area "
" Terrorists fired heavy weapons at tourists from close range"
Now how the hell they simply ran away with "Heavy weapons" ?
Outsiders can not operate so easily in gilgit baltistan.....I believe this new faction of TTP junud-e-hafza are recruited from local sunni extremists (we all know that Gilgat has sectarian issues).
pakistaniat(***)com /2008/02/15/damage-to-buddhist-heritage-in-pakistan-chilas-stupa-and-answer-to-atp-quiz/
Now people will slap us when we will tell them Pakistanis are hospitable & mehmaannawaz.
Totally, mehmaannawazi ki tou dhaggiyaan urha dein aaj. This may be the most embarrassing day in the history of Pakistan. A blackest day.
Who will take the responsibility of this severe damage?
@krash they spoke pashtun and shina both, one news item reported.
^^ so they were locals. @krash
If by locals you mean the leader of Punjab TTP sending a group from Punjab, KPK and "Gilgit-Baltistan" as the representatives of an "organization" which was formed by the Punjab TTP leader under the direct command and directives of the swine living at the Afghan border.....sure the locals did it.
I would also like a link to the source from Muse for research and cross referencing purposes.
You have seen too many Hollywood Movies ,, Come back to reality ...
and i know about Intelligence work .. more then all of you Combine here.
Footprints of Asmatullah Moavia found in Nanga Parbat killings
Azaz Syed
Tuesday, June 25, 2013
ISLAMABAD: The police and law enforcement agencies have found solid clues to the involvement of the Asmatullah Moavia group in the gruesome killing of 10 mountaineers at the base camp of Nanga Parbat, Gilgit-Baltistan.
“We know them and we are looking for six key activists and local leaders who have played a major role in this incident. We have some evidence and some eyewitnesses have also given us a good input,” said a senior police officer, requesting anonymity.
The police and law enforcement agencies believe almost one-and-a-half dozen militants from the Punjab, KPK and Gilgit-Baltistan carried out the killings.The sources claim to have got some tangible help from an eyewitness following which at least six important figures are being hunted down, some of whom were physically present and carried out the killings.
The sources said Asmatullah Moavia group was formed about three years back in Gilgit-Baltistan when a man named Mahar Khan, formerly the head of a militant training camp, contacted Moavia in tribal areas and sent his men to join him. They say Mahar Khan, 80, is also missing.
The other people being hounded in connection with the gruesome killings include commander Khalil, Shahzad Khan, Yazeed, Mohammad Ali and Mahkoomullah.On the other hand, talking to this reporter on Sunday morning, TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan identified the group as “Junood-e-Hafsa” (the fist or union of Jamia Hafsa — a religious seminary linked with the Islamabad-based Lal Masjid).
“We have avenged the killing of our commander Waliur Rehman and also raised voice against the drone attacks in tribal areas. By doing this, we wanted to send a message internationally,” said Ehsan while speaking from an undisclosed location, most probably from the Pak-Afghan border.
Waliur Rehman was killed by a drone on May 29 in Miranshah, the main town of North Waziristan Agency neighboring Afghanistan.He also disclosed that the killing was actually carried out by “Junood-e-Hafsa” — a subsidiary of the TTP.
It is pertinent to mention that Junood-e-Hafsa is a new group formed by the TTP commanded by Asmatullah Moavia.Sources in the law-enforcement agencies claim that the incident had proved that Asmatullah Moavia had now attained a powerful position in the TTP.
Moavia developed differences with Maulana Masood Azhar of Jaishe Mohammad soon after the Lal Masjid operation in 2007 and joined the TTP. Soon, he was appointed as the head of TTP operations in the Punjab.Moavia was identified as the first prominent figure in the Punjabi Taliban. It is not clear yet who else played a role in the brutal killings under his command.
I told earlier nothing would happen. These 37 people that have been arrested, more than likely some locals and some drifters. To the gov't and the military and the police it's just another incident. Sad but true.
Even if the attackers aren't caught, all is not lost. IT's not like we dn't know who did it. The attackers were just foot soldiers. The bastard organization proudly takes responsibility is sitting near the afghan border. IF we had the will and the character, we would have destroyed them by now.
But I guess we have to sit through each and every ugly atrocity committed by them and dwell on whether the attackers got caught.
Even if the attackers aren't caught, all is not lost. IT's not like we dn't know who did it. The attackers were just foot soldiers. The bastard organization proudly takes responsibility is sitting near the afghan border. IF we had the will and the character, we would have destroyed them by now.
Footprints of Asmatullah Moavia found in Nanga Parbat killings
Azaz Syed
Tuesday, June 25, 2013
ISLAMABAD: The police and law enforcement agencies have found solid clues to the involvement of the Asmatullah Moavia group in the gruesome killing of 10 mountaineers at the base camp of Nanga Parbat, Gilgit-Baltistan.
“We know them and we are looking for six key activists and local leaders who have played a major role in this incident. We have some evidence and some eyewitnesses have also given us a good input,” said a senior police officer, requesting anonymity.
The police and law enforcement agencies believe almost one-and-a-half dozen militants from the Punjab, KPK and Gilgit-Baltistan carried out the killings.The sources claim to have got some tangible help from an eyewitness following which at least six important figures are being hunted down, some of whom were physically present and carried out the killings.
The sources said Asmatullah Moavia group was formed about three years back in Gilgit-Baltistan when a man named Mahar Khan, formerly the head of a militant training camp, contacted Moavia in tribal areas and sent his men to join him. They say Mahar Khan, 80, is also missing.
The other people being hounded in connection with the gruesome killings include commander Khalil, Shahzad Khan, Yazeed, Mohammad Ali and Mahkoomullah.On the other hand, talking to this reporter on Sunday morning, TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan identified the group as “Junood-e-Hafsa” (the fist or union of Jamia Hafsa — a religious seminary linked with the Islamabad-based Lal Masjid).
“We have avenged the killing of our commander Waliur Rehman and also raised voice against the drone attacks in tribal areas. By doing this, we wanted to send a message internationally,” said Ehsan while speaking from an undisclosed location, most probably from the Pak-Afghan border.
Waliur Rehman was killed by a drone on May 29 in Miranshah, the main town of North Waziristan Agency neighboring Afghanistan.He also disclosed that the killing was actually carried out by “Junood-e-Hafsa” — a subsidiary of the TTP.
It is pertinent to mention that Junood-e-Hafsa is a new group formed by the TTP commanded by Asmatullah Moavia.Sources in the law-enforcement agencies claim that the incident had proved that Asmatullah Moavia had now attained a powerful position in the TTP.
Moavia developed differences with Maulana Masood Azhar of Jaishe Mohammad soon after the Lal Masjid operation in 2007 and joined the TTP. Soon, he was appointed as the head of TTP operations in the Punjab.Moavia was identified as the first prominent figure in the Punjabi Taliban. It is not clear yet who else played a role in the brutal killings under his command.
the point being is the problem is in our own house, lets blame all the others and move on !
I can too do that..
This message will probably wreck the remaining high-end tourism (aka serious climbing) in this part of the Himalayas (climbers may still come to K-2 because that region is more remote, has more military presence and is not so close to where the Jihad has its Kohistani node). Even this destruction of tourism potential may have a sectarian dimension. Some people have said that the Takfiri terrrorists and their supporters are not the main beneficiaries of the millions spent by foreign climbers in the region; the more educated shia/Ismaili entrepreneurs of Gilgit-Baltistan dominate the high-end trade. I am not sure how true this is and someone with better local knowledge can enlighten us about the religious loyalties of the porters, cooks and guides who will now lose their livelihood in addition to the Gilgit tour operators and climbing expedition companies?
The massacre has certainly struck a chord among Westernized upper-middle class Pakistanis, especially those with links to the army and bureaucracy. The majestic mountains of Northern Pakistan are not the original homeland of our (predominantly) Punjabi elite, but thanks to the accidents of history, they are now OUR mountains and we are VERY proud of them. Even as things fell apart elsewhere, we were still home to some of the most beautiful valleys and imposing mountains in the world. And professional climbers still came from all over the world to pit themselves against K-2 and Nanga Parbat and the dozens of other peaks in that region. Shias being pulled off buses in Chilas (just miles from the site of this current outrage) never really hurt the elite in the way THIS is hurting. So I dont doubt that a good section of the Pakistani elite and the majority of young officers in the region are determined to bring these killers to book. But I do doubt that they will get too far. Strategic depth has come home and its not easy to change that. The killers have just vanished off the face of the earth because they have local support (many of them may be locals themselves). And that local support connects with the wider ****** network. And that network is connected to the good taliban and the good jihadis: the kind who were supposed to get us Kashmir and Afghanistan. The dream may be a bit faded by now, but it still has power.
(From a friend who knows the region well): I interviewd sher khan today, a survivor of nanga parbat and close relative of nazir sabir. Here is summary..they had been camped at north west face of nanga parbat for a month .on that night just past midnight they came shouting taliban, alqaida, surrender they were masked, in tactical wests and shoes and had head lamps .they searched all tents smashed satellite fones, solar panels and laptops .gathered all at one place .sagregated pakistanis made video of every foreigner asking his name and country .were speaking pashtu, urdu in pashtu accent and a few words of shina .after video they ordered the foreigners to make a line and turn, .then with a loud thunder of allah o akbar, that echoed from far away due to few of them .in outer cardon as well, 9-10 people opened fire and then leader shot every body at back of head to ensure that faces are mutilated beyond recognition due to exit wound .they gave lecture to pakistani survivors about supermacy of kitaal and jihaad ..then checked their id cards .found hassan on one card ..shot him in head and face and left chanting allah o akbar. However, they left sher khan, not knowing he is an ismaaili.
As expected, the Paknationalist web is alive with conspiracy theories. Leading anchorperson Talat and leading analyist Moeed Pirzada have tweeted and facebooked about the need to be bold and blame India. Friends and family in the army are convinced that the Hinjews have struck another blow against Pak-China friendship, high-altitude tourism, and other strategic levers of Pakistan. Why the finest intelligence agency in the world cannot stop these conspiracies is not explained. Incompetent or complicit? there is no third option.
That there is no third option is what drives Paknationalists crazy. Do we admit we are incompetent? or do we think we are complicit? Unstoppable force meets immovable object and conspiracy theories erupt from the point of contact.
still, its getting harder and harder to keep up the charade.