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The Trans Pacific Partnership, one of the biggest multinational trade deals ever, has been signed by ministers from its 12 member nations in New Zealand.

The ceremony in Auckland brings the huge trade pact, which has been five years in the making, another step towards to becoming a reality.

But the TPP continues to face opposition.

The 12 nations account for some 40% of the world's economy - they now have two years to ratify or reject the pact.

Australia's minister for trade Andrew Robb was the first to sign the pact. Those attending the ceremony cheered as his counterpart, New Zealand trade minister Todd McClay, added the last signature.

What is the TPP -

TPP - the winners and losers

TPP details made public

Media captionTPP: Who are the winners and losers?
The TPP involves the US, Japan, Malaysia, Vietnam, Singapore, Brunei, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Chile and Peru.

Those against the deal, particularly some Americans, fear it could mean jobs will move from the US to developing countries.

'Write the rules of 21st Century'
However, US President Barack Obama said the agreement was a new type of trade deal "that puts American workers first".

"Partnership would give the United States an advantage over other leading economies, namely China," he said in a statement on Wednesday.

"TPP allows America - and not countries like China - to write the rules of the road in the 21st Century, which is especially important in a region as dynamic as the Asia-Pacific," he said.

"We should get TPP done this year and give more American workers the shot at success they deserve and help more American businesses compete and win around

In Auckland and in the US, among other countries, protestors have voiced their anger about the trade pact over the past several months.

In the lead up to Thursday's signing, the streets around Auckland's central business district were disrupted by groups blocking access to the Auckland Harbour Bridge.

Police clashed with some protestors, who have widely claimed the deal will benefit big business rather than workers.

Behind the deal
The trade deal looks to facilitate investment between 12 countries across the Pacific Rim, which together account for about 40% of the global economy.

It was agreed in October last year after years of negotiations and multiple missed deadlines.

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INew Zealand Prime Minister John Key with Japan's Minister of Cabinet Office Shuichi Takatori after the TPP signing

The US-led initiative is a key part of Mr Obama's so-called pivot to Asia but has proved to be a controversial issue ahead of the US elections in November.

Mr Obama has barely a year left on his term and his administration warns that the US economy will suffer if politicians don't ratify the agreement.

US Trade Representative Michael Froman said the deal could add $100bn (£68.5bn) a year to US growth.

"After five years of negotiation, signing the TPP is an important milestone in our efforts to set high-standard rules of the road in the Asia Pacific region and more generally, and to deliver an agreement that will benefit American workers, farmers and businesses," he said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35480600
 
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TPP will come into force in 2018. TPP members will be the winner while the economy of none TPP will get worse and worse :)
 
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1. What US will get in TPP: she can push CN economy to the verge of collapse and earn lots of benefit from the collapse of CN economy, like what US got after USSR collapse due to US sanction and CN'help' in destroying communist bloc

2. What JP will get: she will get the control of S.Korea, if lucky,she can get TW, too

3. What VN will get: a better economy. None TPP nations like Thailand will need VN's help to survive in economic war that soon will happen. Its a good chance for VN to form a united region to become stronger. :)
 
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Slogan of TPP: "all TPP members r winners, the losers r none TPP members "

Quoted from VN news:cool:
 
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Slogan of TPP: "all TPP members r winners, the losers r none TPP members "

Quoted from VN news:cool:
Oh VN news did not mention the collapse of US dollars will coming too. Lol, China and other non members of TPP will start dumping US dollars sooner, so they won't get threat from the US.
 
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Oh VN news did not mention the collapse of US dollars will coming too. Lol, China and other non members of TPP will start dumping US dollars sooner, so they won't get threat from the US.
Truth is hurt. None TPP members can not export their products to USA,JP,Aussia,Canada etc, so, their economy will collapse.

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Viva the stupid viet, you forgot to include the collapse of India in your 3 points lol. You need to give the exact time of CN collapse. Lol reading this make me LMAO.
TPP come into.force in 2018, CN RMB will fall into half after 6 years(2014) ,CN economy will collapse in 10 years (2028)

Thats why CN economy keep going down and its RMB keep.falling :cool:
 
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Truth is hurt. None TPP members can not export their products to USA,JP,Aussia,Canada etc, so, their economy will collapse.

:cool:


TPP come into.force in 2018, CN RMB will fall into half after 6 years(2014) ,CN economy will collapse in 10 years (2028)

Thats why CN economy keep going down and its RMB keep.falling :cool:
Lol, so you think non TPP will just all go to sleep and who cares about their economic. You have so simple minded, lol. Non TPP will form another economic to counter TPP.
 
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The TPP will force Vietnam into a slave of foreign corporation so I don't see why our little Vietnamese are so happy about this TPP. You get short term benefit but long term, you will not become a high-income country since you will get trap in the middle-income due to the strict IP law with TPP. Not to mention, the Vietnamese will face potential color revolution if you do not follow the regulation of TPP.
 
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Right. We can see Vietnamese are utterly fooled by their government. Members from other countries never showed their stupidity like Vietnamese here.
Every one can see VN economy is raising while CN economy is falling, and its RMB will fall to half in abt 2024 as we predict.

Dont beg for job from TPP nations while your factory close due to losing the buyers.:cool:

From the forum, I think they are, hehe, these frogs in the well are so fool and funny.
For fun here when TPP come out and you will lose your job :laugh:
 
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Every one can see VN economy is raising while CN economy is falling, and its RMB will fall to half in abt 2024 as we predict.

Dont beg for job from TPP nations while your factory close due to losing the buyers.:cool:


For fun here when TPP come out and you will lose your job :laugh:
Dollar Index just dropped 3.5% within last 48 hours from 100 to 96.5. There is a high chance for US economy to repeat that of 2008. Even US is hoping for China to switch successfully to consumer-driven market as soon as possible to avoid such a crisis. Corporations such as Apple only have China sale in growth. Japan tried to use negative interest rate last week. It was ignored by the market this week and Japan stock index is back to 52 week low.

Forget about TPP, survive this coming crisis first. Huge scale-back on investments by multinationals are expected very soon. Countries such as Vietnam and India with high investment debts will be hit the hardest. Vietnam may follow many countries to borrow CNY from China and pay back USD debts.
 
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USD drop to increase its export to TPP nations. Thats good for US export sector. Before 1979, US didnt have Apple, and shes still rich.

No one say VN economy is unstable now. Pple only CN economy is falling.


I doub that you still can keep your job while more and more CN factories have to close recently :cool:
If USD is dropping, how can CNY drop to half?
Also a major investor in Vietnam Samsung is in trouble. Samsung is starting to loose shares and lowering profit margins in most of its business. It has dragged South Korea economy into trouble, with only 0.6% GDP growth in Q4. Its effect on Vietnam will be seen soon.
 
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If USD is dropping, how can CNY drop to half?
Also a major investor in Vietnam Samsung is in trouble. Samsung is starting to loose shares and lowering profit margins in most of its business. It has dragged South Korea economy into trouble, with only 0.6% GDP growth in Q4. Its effect on Vietnam will be seen soon.
how can CNY drop to half? In 50s, CN even faced wt hyper inflation rate and had to change to new CNY with 10,000 old CNY got 1 new CNY .

Drop to half is still so lucky for CN when TPP deal make its export market become much smaller. Just wait till 2024 and see if CNY droping to half or not.

For Samsung in VN, its not our problem if Samsung collapse since Samsung VN only create some jobs,but it takes almost all of benefit back to SK.
 
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As shown in Q4 earning
how can CNY drop to half? In 50s, CN even faced wt hyper inflation rate and had to change to new CNY with 10,000 old CNY got 1 new CNY .

Drop to half is still so lucky for CN when TPP deal make its export market become much smaller. Just wait till 2024 and see if CNY droping to half or not.

For Samsung in VN, its not our problem if Samsung collapse since Samsung VN only create some jobs,but it takes almost all of benefit back to SK.

If CNY drops to half, this means that USD/CNY pair should be doubled. How can USD/CNY double if USD has reached multi-year peak and started to fall? Is this the Vietnamese math?

Starting 1980s, with the increasing debts and lowering interest rates (starting 15%), dollar index always goes up for about 7 years and then goes down for another 7 years. There are strong signs that dollar index is double topped and 100 might be the multi-year peak for dollar this time. If history repeats without any viable means to solve the debt issue, there may a chance for the dollar index to break the last time low of 71.5, or 30% more of USD. With such a background, how can CNY drop to half?
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This round of US economic growth started in Reagon era. The growth relies heavily on interest rate cut and debt growth. This model has reached its end and dragged down US economy severely. TPP will be proven to be a sucking black hole for many US partners during this period. Luckily China is not part of this scheme.
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how can CNY drop to half? In 50s, CN even faced wt hyper inflation rate and had to change to new CNY with 10,000 old CNY got 1 new CNY .

Drop to half is still so lucky for CN when TPP deal make its export market become much smaller. Just wait till 2024 and see if CNY droping to half or not.

For Samsung in VN, its not our problem if Samsung collapse since Samsung VN only create some jobs,but it takes almost all of benefit back to SK.
The hyper inflation happened in late 40s during KMT rule. KMT taxed China up to 1990s and fled to Taiwan. The change of old CNY to new CNY was just the reflection of Chinese civil war and cold-blooded looting of china by KMT. CNY has been stable for more than 60 years with USD/CNY in singles, even during cultural revolution. The highest ratio for USD/CNY was only 8.3. With the current ratio of 6.6, even the chance for a 30% depreciation is nearly zero.
 
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