To the moon and back, Chinese R&D is leaving the US behind

[Beast]

Your obsession with India makes you sound like you are their ____ AND YOU LOST TO THEM IN THE MARS RACE!

NASA is not fixated on that moon mission as some first of its kind. That's just some side projects- Like a homecoming project after 50 years and to say hi to a small-time regional power space program from China that showed up 50 years after us

Arent u ashamed to admit u r Indian? You are the one who first mention India space with regards to China and now u claim we r obsession with India space? Hmmmm.....

What is wrong with facts of India space agency behind China? U really think Indian space agency achieved more than CNSA?

 

[rent4country]

Hopefully they can do it. But it's still future Tense.

Tell me when was the last time NASA collected anything and returned to earth? Find out the answer and tell me.

ROFL, we are collecting samples off asteroids, and you think you getting moon rocks we've had in our museums since 52 years ago is an achievement.

Arent u ashamed to admit u r Indian? You are the one who first mention India space with regards to China and now u claim we r obsession with India space? Hmmmm.....

What is wrong with facts of India space agency r behind China? U really think Indian space agency achieved more than CNSA?

Oh, when all fails, you get cowering and shilling at everyone- you Indian, you bad man, I see you everywhere. Indians beat a small-time regional power like China to Mars, and you can't handle it.

 

[Beast]

ROFL, we are collecting samples of asteroids, and you think you getting moon rocks we've had in our museums since 52 years ago is an achievement.

Indeed, what China get is not the worthless 52 years ago moon sample u got which didn't provide much value.

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Even NASA chief tweet. Asking for China space agency to share the moon sample collect by us. Who r u to claim authority more than NASA chief regards to value of China moon sample?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1330978661831483399

 

[rent4country]

Indeed, what China get is not the worthless 52 years ago moon sample u got which didn't provide much value.

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Even NASA chief tweet. Asking for China space agency to share the moon sample collect by us. Who r u to claim authority more than NASA chief regards to value of China moon sample?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1330978661831483399

Asking to share is a courtesy thing...he probably wanted to make sure you saw the ' We were here 50 years ago' sign written into it we'll leave you to collect rocks we have had 50 years ago.

 

[Beast]

Asking to share is a courtesy thing...he probably wanted to make sure you saw the ' We were here 50 years ago' sign written into it we'll leave you to collect rocks we have had 50 years ago.

Sure, we can don't share. Nobody can force China.

You r indeed correct again. The spot we dig the moon soil didn't see any American flag but Chinese flag only. No where Apollo's lander are found. R u saying apollo mission are indeed hoax?

 

[dbc]

The gravity of most asteroids is almost neglectable. I think landing and leaving this asteroid don't need complicated technologies as the same tasks to the moon need. It's more like two spacecrafts docking and separating. Of course it needs other technologies like control and heavy rockets. But as we are talking about landing and leaving technologies. It's not very impressive.

far from reality asteroids spin very fast, up to a few revolutions per minute. This rapid spinning makes it difficult for a spacecraft to match an asteroid's velocity in order to touch down and collect samples worse the spinning asteroid flings loose rocks and soil that can damage the approaching probe and is fatal to the multi year mission. The probe had to track the debris field and predict a space touch point. The lack of gravity makes the whole mission much more difficult, one mistake and the probe glances off the asteroid and drifts into space - it’s sayonara probe.

This is many times the magnitude more difficult than anything we face on the docile predictable moon surface.

NASA’s mission to Saturns moon to collect samples 10 Km below the frozen surface of Enceladus sub surface ocean is the extent of NASA current ambition - China is decades away from anything nearing this level of complexity - so when you people mock NASA you look very silly indeed.

 

[dbc]

Hopefully they can do it. But it's still future Tense.

Tell me when was the last time NASA collected anything and returned to earth? Find out the answer and tell me.

2004 NASA returned samples to earth from a Comet and interstellar space. And what about China? Is this moon mission your first sample collection endeavor? Anything else you wish to brag about?

 

[Beast]

far from reality asteroids spin very fast, up to a few revolutions per minute. This rapid spinning makes it difficult for a spacecraft to match an asteroid's velocity in order to touch down and collect samples worse the spinning asteroid flings loose rocks and soil that can damage the approaching probe and is fatal to the multi year mission. The probe had to track the debris field and predict a space touch point. The lack of gravity makes the whole mission much more difficult, one mistake and the probe glances off the asteroid and drifts into space - it’s sayonara probe.

This is many times the magnitude more difficult than anything we face on the docile predictable moon surface.

NASA’s mission to Saturns moon to collect samples 10 Km below the frozen surface of Enceladus sub surface ocean is the extent of NASA current ambition - China is decades away from anything nearing this level of complexity - so when you people mock NASA you look very silly indeed.

Nonsense. Moon sample collect are far more demanding than asteroid collections. First is the gravity to handle are far more challenging and require massive equipment like lander , returner and orbiter which combined are few tons.

Hayabusa2 is only 490kg. You can even use a small rocket to carry out the job. Due to the almost non existent gravity, it just need to scrapped across the surface of the asteroid to retrieve few milligrams of sample compare to Chang e 5 2kg sample which scrapped and go is impossible.

2004 NASA returned samples to earth from a Comet and interstellar space. And what about China? Is this moon mission your first sample collection endeavor? Anything else you wish to brag about?

Chang e 5 lunar mission is the world first deep space autonomous docking at lunar orbit while NASA has only done it by manual docking.

This technology is extremely critical in future artemis mission of NASA as resupply of lunar orbiter mission will need this technology in order to save previous space. I am not sure NASA is capable of that.

 

[kankan326]

far from reality asteroids spin very fast, up to a few revolutions per minute. This rapid spinning makes it difficult for a spacecraft to match an asteroid's velocity in order to touch down and collect samples worse the spinning asteroid flings loose rocks and soil that can damage the approaching probe and is fatal to the multi year mission. The probe had to track the debris field and predict a space touch point. The lack of gravity makes the whole mission much more difficult, one mistake and the probe glances off the asteroid and drifts into space - it’s sayonara probe.

This is many times the magnitude more difficult than anything we face on the docile predictable moon surface.

NASA’s mission to Saturns moon to collect samples 10 Km below the frozen surface of Enceladus sub surface ocean is the extent of NASA current ambition - China is decades away from anything nearing this level of complexity - so when you people mock NASA you look very silly indeed.

Sounds more like spacecrafts docking to me except spinning part. Based on present AI technology, landing on a few revolutions/minute spinning asteroid is not so difficult.

 

[dbc]

Nonsense. Moon sample collect are far more demanding than asteroid collections. First is the gravity to handle are far more challenging and require massive equipment like lander , returner and orbiter which combined are few tons.

Hayabusa2 is only 490kg. You can even use a small rocket to carry out the job. Due to the almost non existent gravity, it just need to scrapped across the surface of the asteroid to retrieve few milligrams of sample compare to Chang e 5 2kg sample which scrapped and go is impossible.

Chang e 5 lunar mission is the world first deep space autonomous docking at lunar orbit while NASA has only done it by manual docking.

This technology is extremely critical in future artemis mission of NASA as resupply of lunar orbiter mission will need this technology in order to save previous space. I am not sure NASA is capable of that.

NASA used a new nitrogen injection technique to collect samples from the asteroid about 60 grams not a few milligrams all autonomously at a distance a thousand times further than the moon. Docking Is fairly routine, each Apollo mission docked and separated four times each mission in the 60s and 70s.

Sounds more like spacecrafts docking to me except spinning part. Based on present AI technology, landing on a few revolutions/minute spinning asteroid is not so difficult.

Sure try and park your car while you are avoiding huge boulders falling down from the sky and your parking space is rotating and revolving around its axis....sure all very easy no big deal..just use AI.

 

[Han Patriot]

You are a regional power and hence had to remind you that you lost the mars race to another regional power India. Besides, every post, you are a noun, a verb, and India like a broken-hearted girlfriend

Congrats on the moon mission 50 years after us. Congrats on bringing the lama yue technology (lol) to the moon, but we still left our sign 'we were here first' 50 plus years ago. We got bored of going there and choose to concentrate on private players and the Mars mission. You enjoy collecting rock samples, which we had done 52 years ago.

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Hahaha there is no use trying to hide your yindoo sent. Nope we are not a power, just a humble. Developing country going to space. People who use the word power are normally yindoos, supapowa... Lol

Hey you can get bored or whatever, fact remains, you have no manned space capability nor cargo capability until recently. Why do you think you need to send astronaut from Kazakhstan? Ask borat. Lololol

 

[Han Patriot]

2004 NASA returned samples to earth from a Comet and interstellar space. And what about China? Is this moon mission your first sample collection endeavor? Anything else you wish to brag about?

That's 16 years ago mate. But I believe you can achieve it but let's wait and see. I. Just doubt your have manned space and docking technology nowadays.

 

[Beast]

China’s Moon Mission Was About More Than Rocks

If everything goes according to plan, China will soon become the third country behind the United States and the Soviet Union to successfully return a sample of lunar material. Their Chang’e 5…

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[KAL-EL]

Strange things happen on the moon.
Not nearly as strange as the Cydonia area of Mars, but strange things nonetheless.

 

[rent4country]

Hahaha there is no use trying to hide your yindoo sent. Nope we are not a power, just a humble. Developing country going to space. People who use the word power are normally yindoos, supapowa... Lol

Hey you can get bored or whatever, fact remains, you have no manned space capability nor cargo capability until recently. Why do you think you need to send astronaut from Kazakhstan? Ask borat. Lololol

LOL. Lost the mars race, a regional small time-space power bragging about the moon mission 50 years later than us - typical born into servitude Chinese, always late to the party but high on volume and spit.