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TLP now to be treated as a militant organization

And this cancer needs to be fixed like many other old cancers that are still plaguing Pakistan with utter stupidity.

Cancer treatment usually involves radiation which damages healthy cells too. Be sure to not diagnose a headache a cancer otherwise there goes the brain. :D


Is there any Prophet in 21st century whose blessing will cause peace and tranquility in 21st century? Dont draw false comparisons.

Are you a Ahmadi?? For you yes if you are. :D

If not, then we'll both wait for Imam Mahdi. If you don't believe in him either then I tell you to go back and read the books of hadiths where it's mentioned that the scholars (the best of the best) of the Ummah will be like the Prophets of Bani Israel.

Or are you not that learned in Islamic matters? :)

There was Fitnah and Fassad During the Era of Hazrat Usman and Hazrat Ali R.A. Did the fear of God and Prophet stopped that Fitnah and Fassad? While those were rightly guided Caliphs!

Equating the protests of TLP to the First Fitna?? :lol:

Tell me, is TLP trying to assassinate IK??

Are they Muslim or Kharijites?

Do you even know who can declare other Muslims Kharijites and who can't?


Prophet Mohd PBUH Agreement of Hudabiya. Did you forget or shall I remind you again? When Muslims ar in position of weakness, you follow the path of Hudabiya. But Whom I talking to. illiterates and close minded people who just cherry and pick Islam for their own agendas !

You're quoting Hudabiya?? Why??

Are we at war with France?? Or anyone else??

:lol:

Dude, please don't try to teach me about Islamic history....I have listened to many versions of it from many different scholars. Just take a look at my profile pic. It'll give you a clue as to what my expertise are. I excel in this area.

Btw, no hard feeling heh? :pdf::enjoy:
 
There was Fitnah and Fassad During the Era of Hazrat Usman and Hazrat Ali R.A.

Guess what the ruling elite isn't Mola Ali A.s . They give red carpet welcome to the enemies of Allah Swt ,the money lenders, and pass legislations to legalise thugery what for ? Their motorcades, green cards, ,renovations, kickbacks even for daily food.
 
TLP has a choice at this point, go big or go home. All the criminals and terrorists in this country who are thriving are only doing so because they have such a large capacity to harm the state, that the state chooses not to tackle them. This is why TTP is back, this is why Balochistan is on fire, this is why PTM, PPP and PMLN are virtually untouched. If TLP has the courage and manpower to attack the armed forces, like with all other anti state entities, the state will only fight with them to then negociate a position they're comfortable with.

What the TLP does next will determine wether it is an anti state organisation or not.
 
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Cancer treatment usually involves radiation which damages healthy cells too. Be sure to not diagnose a headache a cancer otherwise there goes the brain. :D




Are you a Ahmadi?? For you yes if you are. :D

If not, then we'll both wait for Imam Mahdi. If you don't believe in him either then I tell you to go back and read the books of hadiths where it's mentioned that the scholars (the best of the best) of the Ummah will be like the Prophets of Bani Israel.

Or are you not that learned in Islamic matters? :)



Equating the protests of TLP to the First Fitna?? :lol:

Tell me, is TLP trying to assassinate IK??

Are they Muslim or Kharijites?

Do you even know who can declare other Muslims Kharijites and who can't?




You're quoting Hudabiya?? Why??

Are we at war with France?? Or anyone else??

:lol:

Dude, please don't try to teach me about Islamic history....I have listened to many versions of it from many different scholars. Just take a look at my profile pic. It'll give you a clue as to what my expertise are. I excel in this area.

Btw, no hard feeling heh? :pdf::enjoy:

This is kind of Jahalat and boasting i was expecting from you and you didnt disappoint in that. Not a single logical reply. Just accusations and boasting about your illiterate state of mind. Hence proved Close minded people like you are the biggest danger in Islamic community and cause the Fitna. Just like the Fitna of Hazrat Usman era. There is no treatment for people like you. You will continue to draw false comparisons and continue the Fitanh And Fassad.

First Fitnah Started as protest during the season of HAJJ. Which turned violent and ended in the assassination of Hazrat Usman R.A . This show how much you know actually about Islam.
 
No you didn't, all you said was that it will be a great service to Islam and show a backbone? What is the use of said backbone if it's doing the opposite effect of intended. If you are going to show a backbone then there needs to be a benefit in it like asserting Pakistani sovereignty or something else but in this case there is no benefit like i said, it will not stop Islamophobia nor will it will it help Pakistan in any way.

Time to teach basic English 101...here we go....

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You're worried about exports when the Prophet SAW chewed on leaves just to not give up on Islam.......or do you not remember that incident??

Have you considered for a sec that the situation might change for the better if we listen to fellow Muslims and side with them??

Maybe Allah will see us united and help us?? Rather than cursing Pakistan like the yearly floods and protest and whatnot?? :rolleyes:

2 bold statements....2 different reasons......

Reason 1: Shows backbone (very first reason)

Reason 2: Religious and political Unity.

Reason 3: Allah might (InShaAllah) help us if we're united

Three is enough? Or do I need to spoon feed more??

Like I said before. Read before quoting me.

You literally make no sense since you're not even understanding what I have already written. :lol:

So let me get this straight you know that this will have no effect in the goal you are aiming at and instead cause Pakistanis to suffer for nothing but are fine with it? Alrighty...

Oh man.....are you bad at reading.....

You're still at point 0 repeating yourself. I have already said that it'll have no effect in France.....I never said it won't have any effect in Pakistan. Go back to school puttar. :lol:

This is the most ironic thing considering the fact that you neither live in Pakistan but live in a fairly well developed nation and probably are quite well off compared to the average Pakistani and yet you want us to chew leaves....

How about you do your part too right? Go to your French Embassy or consulate and launch a Hunger strike it's the least you could do right since you advocate chewing leaves, lead the way!

Here comes the Overseas card...

It had to come up sometime. :D

"You don't live here so you don't know anything" :blah:


How about you do your part too right? Go to your French Embassy or consulate and launch a Hunger strike it's the least you could do right since you advocate chewing leaves, lead the way!

Oh believe me....I'm doing my part.......and sending back remittances. :D

Protesting online...better yet teaching online is way better than protesting in front of the French Embassy.

The only protest I have been to in the US is when we had the Kashmir one in NYC. ;)
This is BLACKMAIL

it really is

And once Pakistan allows itself to be blackmailed then Pakistan will.be torn apart



We cannot tolerate this and all Pakistan midy unite to defend the state against these enemies

Lmao.....like I said before.....simple demands are different from blackmail........some Pakistanis see everything as blackmail. Not my fault. :rolleyes:
 
Guess what the ruling elite isn't Mola Ali A.s . They give red carpet welcome to the enemies of Allah Swt ,the money lenders, and pass legislations to legalise thugery what for ? Their motorcades, green cards, ,renovations, kickbacks even for daily food.

Hazrat Usman & Ali R.A were rightly guided caliphs and the most righteous one. Did it stop the fitnah and Fassad ?

You strawman argument doesnt hold because Fitnah and Fassad can happen to any. Righteous or Corrupt !

But who put a stop to those fitnas and expanded muslim empire? Wanna take a guess? Ummayad Thugs while the Ahl e bayt were oppressed greatly. But it didnt stop Islam from expanding. Did it now?
 
Hazrat Usman & Ali R.A were rightly guided caliphs and the most righteous one. Did it stop the fitnah and Fassad ?

You strawman argument doesnt hold because Fitnah and Fassad can happen to any. Righteous or Corrupt !

But who put a stop to those fitnas and expanded muslim empire? Wanna take a guess? Ummayad Thugs while the Ahl e bayt were oppressed greatly. But it didnt stop Islam from expanding. Did it now?

Ummayads weren't thugs. Not all of them. All of what happened happened because of the will of Allah. Prophet SAW had himself predicted what would happen....he mentioned in a hadith that the Caliphate would remain for 27 years or something like that before the hereditary rule became normal.

Or do you not know about that? :D
This is kind of Jahalat and boasting i was expecting from you and you didnt disappoint in that. Not a single logical reply. Just accusations and boasting about your illiterate state of mind. Hence proved Close minded people like you are the biggest danger in Islamic community and cause the Fitna. Just like the Fitna of Hazrat Usman era. There is no treatment for people like you. You will continue to draw false comparisons and continue the Fitanh And Fassad.

First Fitnah Started as protest during the season of HAJJ. Which turned violent and ended in the assassination of Hazrat Usman R.A . This show how much you know actually about Islam.

I'm not the one accusing someone of Jahalat and boasting. I only said you need to read more since I have read more than you because it shows...

You're still going in a circle with the usage of the Fitna and other buzzwords when me and other posters have told you that you're comparing apples to oranges.

I can't make someone see logic if all they see is something else. :D
 
You do realize this group has failed to compromise and diplomatically resolve the issue despite being given assurances of all of their demands being accepted except the French one since it was undeniably stupid.

BTW for how long you are following TLP? Do you know that Govt failed to abide by their initial agreement with TLP … do you know that TLP till last Thursday was hoping for the Govt to nominate people for negotiating committee….and lastly there are videos posted above if you watch them where very seasoned and informed journalist are stating that French ambassador issue was not even in the list of current demands…
 
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Hazrat Usman & Ali R.A were rightly guided caliphs and the most righteous one. Did it stop the fitnah and Fassad ?

You strawman argument doesnt hold because Fitnah and Fassad can happen to any. Righteous or Corrupt !

But who put a stop to those fitnas and expanded muslim empire? Wanna take a guess? Ummayad Thugs while the Ahl e bayt were oppressed greatly. But it didnt stop Islam from expanding. Did it now?

Gosh you still running in circles? It's not saint vs devil its anrcahy vs anarchy. Model town killings , papa jhons , Australian island, ptm assaulting our soldiers, ppp arranging a killing season in karcahi, baloch terrosits targeting our state, giving the country's economy to imf on a platter, spending 6 million pkr on tea parties by a single babu alone the previous year, extreme law and order situation , safe exit to high profile convicts, 126 days long sitins , with all the media fane fare etc didn't happen in the distance past !
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We could have resolved it through taking this matter to the national assembly as originally demanded by tlp.

You want the whole parliament to be hostage by these lot??

Anyone who doesn't agree with them is a Gustakh and Murtad! They are blackmailers and willing to kill (forgot the security guard murdering his manager). That prior agreement is null and void due to this kind of blackmailing.
 
Ummayads weren't thugs. Not all of them. All of what happened happened because of the will of Allah. Prophet SAW had himself predicted what would happen....he mentioned in a hadith that the Caliphate would remain for 27 years or something like that before the hereditary rule became normal.



حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو النُّعْمَانِ، ‏‏‏‏‏‏حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ زَيْدٍ، ‏‏‏‏‏‏عَنِ الْجَعْدِ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ، ‏‏‏‏‏‏حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو رَجَاءٍ الْعُطَارِدِيُّ، ‏‏‏‏‏‏قَالَ:‏‏‏‏ سَمِعْتُ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا، ‏‏‏‏‏‏عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، ‏‏‏‏‏‏قَالَ:‏‏‏‏ "مَنْ رَأَى مِنْ أَمِيرِهِ شَيْئًا يَكْرَهُهُ فَلْيَصْبِرْ عَلَيْهِ، ‏‏‏‏‏‏فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ فَارَقَ الْجَمَاعَةَ شِبْرًا فَمَاتَ إِلَّا مَاتَ مِيتَةً جَاهِلِيَّةً".



Narrated Ibn `Abbas: The Prophet said, Whoever notices something which he dislikes done by his ruler, then he should be patient, for whoever becomes separate from the company of the Muslims even for a span and then dies, he will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic period of Ignorance (as rebellious sinners). (Fath-ul-Bari page 112, Vol. 16)
REFERENCE:
Sahih Al Bukhari 1: Chapter 94, Hadith 7054




I guess you skipped this hadith when you were thoroughly researching about Islam eh?
 
Oh believe me....I'm doing my part.......and sending back remittances. :D

Protesting online...better yet teaching online is way better than protesting in front of the French Embassy.
Then what's stopping you from chewing leaves as well infront of your own French consulate/embassy?
Haha.. so selective protesting huh Pakistanis eat leaves while you protest 'online'. Also i'm not saying Overseas people don't know anything, i'm just pointing out your hypocrisy in this particular case.
bold statements....2 different reasons......

Reason 1: Shows backbone (very first reason)

Reason 2: Religious and political Unity.

Reason 3: Allah might (InShaAllah) help us if we're united

Three is enough? Or do I need to spoon feed more??

Like I said before. Read before quoting me.

You literally make no sense since you're not even understanding what I have already written. :lol:
I already replied and told you these points again bring no benefit, there is no Religious and Political unity that will be brought from such a move, what kind of fairytale do you think this is?
Pakistanis will expel the French and then all of us will go out and hold hands, sing and peace will prevail in the lands? Give me a break.
 
unfortunately this forum is also filled with seculars and liberals.

And “false flaggers” who love to comments on thread like these to push a “Pre Set” agenda … they flocked to posts related to Islam and try to paint a horrific picture … and oh btw you never see them condemning millions of deaths of innocents around the globe by wars based on false (proven) narrative …
 

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