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Tillerson Praises Monroe Doctrine, Warns Latin America of ‘Imperial’ Chinese Ambitions

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It’s shame Pakistan’s has citizen like you. Maybe you enjoy US drone strike on Pakistan’s soil?

I know you are upset Pakistan could not get the so called artificial superior weapon from Uncle Sam. :enjoy:

Maybe you wan to enlighten us of condition of Iraqi after the
Operation freedom in 2003 by US?I can bet the standard of living of iraqi is so superior that it surpass China and Japan, right? :enjoy:

He is an American.

South America? Is this one of region that Trump described as "s***t-hole" regarding immigration issue? After all seems someone forget what US did in Mid and South America in 50, 60, 70's.

The South Americans will show Trumpland a middle finger.
 
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South America? Is this one of region that Trump described as "s***t-hole" regarding immigration issue? After all seems someone forget what US did in Mid and South America in 50, 60, 70's.
A test would be the upcoming Presidential election in Mexico this year.
 
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HINT: Venezuela

A mere glance at the location of South America on the world map will tell you that China cannot pull off a CPEC in this part of the world. To give you an idea, billions of USD worth of investments from China in Venezuela went down the drain in recent years and Venezuelan economy is in shambles since 2015. Reason is that Nicolás Maduro was lacking in acumen and vision for steering his country towards the path of prosperity.

Feeling emboldened by investments from China, Venezuela [unnecessarily] strained its ties with the US and all US had to do was to slash its oil imports from Venezuela by half, and Venezuelan economy collapsed consequently.

It would be much better for a South American country to maintain productive ties with the US due to geographical proximity. There is no other way through this.

Maduro was in Russia recently for financial support to renegotiate terms of their debt. China will do the same. Maduro is no Chavez, he lacks the latter’s charisma, but he’s continuing the region’s long-standing tradition of protesting against yanqui interference.
 
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“I think it’s as relevant today as it was the day it was written,” Tillerson said of the doctrine.

What an imperial statement, US doesn't own Latin America, if China define the Monroe doctrine on Asia, Russia define the same on EU then US shall be irrelevant in the world. US can't compete but behave like a bad loser, every nation in this world start to watching US with mistrust eyes, they will look down US as world leader but rather a global dictator, nations will distance further and further US and get more closer to China, this is inevitable.
 
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It’s shame Pakistan’s has citizen like you. Maybe you enjoy US drone strike on Pakistan’s soil?

I know you are upset Pakistan could not get the so called artificial superior weapon from Uncle Sam. :enjoy:

Maybe you wan to enlighten us of condition of Iraqi after the
Operation freedom in 2003 by US?I can bet the standard of living of iraqi is so superior that it surpass China and Japan, right? :enjoy:
What do you expect from me? To worship China (and Chinese) at every forum? :rolleyes:

Just because you are Chinese, doesn't mean that you have the moral imperative to insult [any] Pakistani for his views in regards to a matter that does not concern you or your country (directly).

On topic; South American countries have every right to forge a constructive relationship with China but my argument is that China cannot facilitate these countries in the same manner as it can lets say Pakistan due to "geography."

Geography of Pakistan makes it feasible for it to extract much more from China (e.g. CPEC) but a South American country does not have this luxury. It would be in the best interests of any South American country to forge a constructive relationship with the US because it is in the backyard of the latter. As you can see, Venezuela has paid a hefty price for its geopolitical miscalculations vis-a-vis the US.

In no way or form, did I blame China for the fate of Venezuela; China invested in Venezuela but it didn't work out.

My sincere advice to you is to get a diploma in English because you have comprehension problems.
 
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You only have to read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klien to see the sinister role US and its CIA played in Latin America. That was imperialism in its worst form.

USA is an imperial power and fearing its days are numbered, creating false impressions.
 
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What do you expect from me? To worship China (and Chinese) at every forum? :rolleyes:

Just because you are Chinese, doesn't mean that you have the moral imperative to insult [any] Pakistani for his views in regards to a matter that does not concern you or your country (directly).

On topic; South American countries have every right to forge a constructive relationship with China but my argument is that China cannot facilitate these countries in the same manner as it can lets say Pakistan due to "geography."

Geography of Pakistan makes it feasible for it to extract much more from China (e.g. CPEC) but a South American country does not have this luxury. It would be in the best interests of any South American country to forge a constructive relationship with the US because it is in the backyard of the latter. As you can see, Venezuela has paid a hefty price for its geopolitical miscalculations vis-a-vis the US.

In no way or form, did I blame China for the fate of Venezuela; China invested in Venezuela but it didn't work out.

My sincere advice to you is to get a diploma in English because you have comprehension problems.

Insult? I am talking the right thing for how a true Pakistan shall behaved. Is US imperialism mentality a slandering or malign? Clearly it spoke from the devil as this article stated. Any true Pakistanis will not tolerate drone strike on its own soil. Clearly you will prefer drone strike becos you still believe US is a great leader that is worthy to work with. Your blind bootlicking of anything American made even irk your fellow Pakistanis who disowned you.

At least Chinese dont behave like American who openly talking about their imperialism and no equal partner for them.

A patriotic and sane Pakistanis will no doubt prefer Chinese over American. Only a treasonous Pakistanis will think American is better than Chinese to work with for their better of the country.
 
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Insult? I am talking the right thing for how a true Pakistan shall behaved. Is US imperialism mentality a slandering or malign? Clearly it spoke from the devil as this article stated. Any true Pakistanis will not tolerate drone strike on its own soil. Clearly you will prefer drone strike becos you still believe US is a great leader that is worthy to work with. Your blind bootlicking of anything American made even irk your fellow Pakistanis who disowned you.

At least Chinese dont behave like American who openly talking about their imperialism and no equal partner for them.

A patriotic and sane Pakistanis will no doubt prefer Chinese over American. Only a treasonous Pakistanis will think American is better than Chinese to work with for their better of the country.

Let there be absolutely zero doubt that 99.9% of Pakistanis will always stand with their Chinese counterparts. China is a brotherly nation. The Pakistanis cannot express their gratitude.
 
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Let there be absolutely zero doubt that 99.9% of Pakistanis will always stand with their Chinese counterparts. China is a brotherly nation. The Pakistanis cannot express their gratitude.
A prosperous neighbor is always welcome by Chinese and Chinese always believe in win/win and equal partnership unlike some superpower.
 
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Insult? I am talking the right thing for how a Pakistan shall behaved.
Do you understand the notion of democracy, my friend?

"Democracy is one of the universal core values and principles of the United Nations. Respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms and the principle of holding periodic and genuine elections by universal suffrage are essential elements of democracy."
- United Nations

Now [you] want to tell me how a Pakistani should behave? Seriously man. :frown:

I would never tell you how to behave. You are entitled to your way of life.

Is US imperialism mentality a slandering or malign? Clearly it spoke from the devil as this article stated.
Virtually any "great power" in history has attempted to influence and reshape its surroundings per its desire. Now that China has joined this club, it intends to do the same. For example: http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...ne-with-its-militarisation-of-south-china-sea

So how are you different from others?

Any true Pakistanis will not tolerate drone strike on its own soil. Clearly you will prefer drone strike becos you still believe US is a great leader that is worthy to work with. Your blind bootlicking of anything American made even irk your fellow Pakistanis who disowned you.
1. Nobody "disowned" me. I have my share of disagreements with a few members of this community but on strictly [logical] grounds, not on personal grounds.

2. Just because US violates the sovereignty of my country under the garb of War on Terror from time-to-time, doesn't imply that I support such moves.

There are scores of Pakistani who believe that these strikes occur in collusion with the Pakistani military establishment. An example: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/us-o...rikes-in-pakistan.542432/page-2#post-10220732

I challenged that narrative in this forum. In that very thread, I responded in kind to the relevant member.

There are scores of Pakistani who believe (or used to believe) that the infamous Operation Neptune Spear occurred in collusion with the Pakistani military establishment, in Abbottabad in 2011.

I challenged that narrative in this forum. I obtained a copy of the Abbottabad Commission Report and disclosed its findings to many members here. I also cited [additional sources] for the same end.

In-fact, I took lot of flak for challenging the aforementioned perceptions of fellow Pakistani over the course of years here. Do you have similar guts?

You should also check my analysis of American agenda in Afghanistan: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/air-...-up-taliban-fight.540686/page-2#post-10202058

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As for [working] with the US:-

http://www.us-china-fdi.com/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/188629/united-states-direct-investments-in-china-since-2000/

Chinese premier Xi Jinping rolled out a RED CARPET welcome to POTUS Donald Trump in China in 2017: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...mp-on-first-day-of-beijing-trip-idUSKBN1D81IW

So why is China [working] with the US? Do you even know that China is the largest trading partner of the US in the world?

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Very easy for you to critic my views at personal capacity, my friend. What you need to see is a mirror.

At least Chinese dont behave like American who openly talking about their imperialism and no equal partner for them.
FYI:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/09...vey-results-ideological-university-crackdown/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-so-many-chinese-students-come-to-the-u-s-1462123552

People connect with each other on humanitarian grounds and/or for personal ends, irrespective of their nationality.

A patriotic and sane Pakistanis will no doubt prefer Chinese over American. Only a treasonous Pakistanis will think American is better than Chinese to work with for their better of the country.
Sane Pakistani would not (unnecessarily) pick a side, and would not put all of their eggs in one basket.


In case you didn't knew, this guy paved the way for CPEC with China by clearing Balochistan and parts of NWFP from rogue elements and/or terrorists who stood in the way of development and prosperity in these provinces for personal ends.

"Pakistan should have a working relationship with the Russia, China (and the US)."

Whatever problems we have with the US, these can be sorted out through "effective diplomacy," which is lacking on our side due to ineptness of PML(N)-led government; this government is mired in charges of corruption, scandals and bad governance. Arguably the worst we had in years.

US is 2nd largest trading partner of Pakistan (i.e. surplus in case of Pakistan), and IMF has history of bailing Pakistani economy in dire times. Additionally, USAID agency is involved in many projects of welfare across Pakistan.

So we throw all that away for the sake of appeasing some over-the-top nationalistic Chinese and Pakistani who do not understand how this world works?

A country should never act on the whims of few, and should always leave its door open to diplomatic efforts. To give you an idea, Iraq acted on the whims of Saddam Hussein and you can see the outcome.

Friendly China? Most welcome.

Problems with the US? We need to address them.
 
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