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TikTok To Sue Trump Administration Over Ban, As Soon As Tuesday

TikTok is planning to sue the Trump administration, challenging the president's executive order banning the service from the United States.

The video-sharing app hugely popular with the smartphone generation will file the federal lawsuit as soon as Tuesday, according to a person who was directly involved in the forthcoming suit but was not authorized to speak for the company. It will be filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of California, where TikTok's American operations are based, the person said.

NPR has learned that the lawsuit will argue that President Trump's far-reaching action is unconstitutional because it failed to give the company a chance to respond. It also alleges that the administration's national security justification for the order is baseless, according to the source.

"It's based on pure speculation and conjecture," the source said. "The order has no findings of fact, just reiterates rhetoric about China that has been kicking around."

The White House declined to comment on the expected litigation but defended the president's executive order. "The Administration is committed to protecting the American people from all cyber related threats to critical infrastructure, public health and safety, and our economic and national security," according to White House spokesman Judd Deere.

What the Thursday night executive order does

Under the president's Thursday night executive order, "any transaction" between a U.S. citizen and TikTok's Beijing-based parent company, ByteDance, will be outlawed in 45 days for national security reasons.

Such a sweeping ban would be fatal for TikTok in the U.S.

It is popular among teenagers and 20-somethings in the U.S., where more than 100 million users have downloaded the app. They use it to share dances and comedy skits in 60-second video bites, which often go viral. The app is such a cultural phenomenon that it has become a platform to discover new music and has even launched several breakout hits that have topped the Billboard charts.

The app has also been used to antagonize the president, including when thousands of teens reserved tickets to the president's rally in Tulsa, Okla., with no intention of going, inflating the Trump campaign's expectations for the event and causing embarrassment over the disappointing turnout.

If the presidential ban goes into effect, the app may no longer be able to send software updates, rendering TikTok unmanageable on smartphones and eventually nonfunctional.

The president's executive order stands to cut off American advertisers on its app and force Apple and Google to remove it from mobile app stores.

TikTok's more than 1,000 U.S.-based employees could have their paychecks indefinitely frozen. It could force landlords housing TikTok operations to evict them. And Trump's order could make it impossible for American lawyers to represent TikTok in any U.S. legal proceedings.

The source familiar with TikTok's internal discussions on the matter says the president's order appeared rushed and did not include carveouts or exceptions for TikTok to maintain any legal representation, which the company plans to argue is a violation of due process rights.

According to those working on TikTok's legal team, no such outreach from the White House requesting evidence took place before Thursday's executive order. TikTok lawyers view that as shortcutting standard procedure.

As such, the president's move took many inside TikTok aback.

Officials at TikTok acknowledged as much in its response to the order. "We are shocked by the recent Executive Order, which was issued without any due process," TikTok said in a statement. "The text of the decision makes it plain that there has been a reliance on unnamed 'reports' with no citations, fears that the app 'may be' used for misinformation campaigns with no substantiation of such fears, and concerns about the collection of data that is industry standard for thousands of mobile apps around the world."

Officials at TikTok declined to publicly comment on the looming legal battle.

Breaking the TikTok ban carries a $300,000 fine

Violating the order carries stiff penalties. After the 45-day period, doing business with TikTok could result in a $300,000 fine per violation and "willful" offenders could even face criminal prosecution.

Another issue that may be raised in TikTok's legal challenge is the argument that Trump overstepped his authority.

The order was issued in part under an executive power known as the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which arms the president with broad authority to impose economic sanctions when presented with an "unusual and extraordinary threat," such as a risk to national security.

There are exceptions to that power that lawyers for TikTok will likely underscore in their litigation. For instance, the authority cannot be used to regulate or prohibit either "personal communication" or sharing of film and other forms of media, which TikTok can argue is the primary use of its app.

If Congress believes the president has used the emergency economic powers unjustly, lawmakers can overrule the order by passing a resolution that would terminate the order.

But any pushback from Congress is unlikely, as the skepticism about the Chinese Communist Party's potential ties to the country's technology companies has gathered bipartisan support.

Already, the Senate, by a unanimous vote, passed a bill Thursday banning TikTok on all government-issued devices.

Washington fears China access to American citizens' data

TikTok's terms of service spells out what it captures from users, including location data, browsing history and personal contacts.

The app also informs users that data can be shared with its Chinese parent company, ByteDance. This has has stirred fears in Washington that authorities in the Chinese government could potentially gain access to American citizens' data and put that information to use in a blackmailing scheme or in a targeted disinformation campaign.

Some technology experts say the worries over China are warranted.

Former White House official Lindsay Gorman, who is now a fellow with the Alliance for Securing Democracy, told NPR that TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, is ultimately beholden to the Chinese Communist Party.

"The harsh reality of how businesses operate in China means that if the CCP wants that data, it will get it," Gorman said.

She added: "Leaving TikTok in Chinese ownership creates an information space vulnerability at a time leading up to an election when political communication is increasingly happening on the platform."

TikTok officials see the executive order as essentially a pressure campaign, a way of forcing an American company to move quickly to acquire the app's U.S. assets.

Microsoft — the American tech giant that owns Xbox, LinkedIn and Skype — is already in talks to buy TikTok, but those discussions are in the early stages.




I predicted it here!

The best case scenario for China now is twist Zhang Yiming's arm until he openly confronts Trump by refusing to sell anything and even changes the algorithm to be anti-Trump. It will not be easy for Trump to ban the app because people can just use VPN to access it. Sooner or later somebody is going to sue the Trump administration in court and turn it into a First Amendment controversy. Now Trump has pissed everybody off going into elections.

China has *all* the cards... if it can twist Zhang Yiming's arm hard enough.
 
The best thing Tiktok can is to create a Trump account and make stupid Tiktok videos of him.
 
The Americans and the West spout their adherence to the rule of law but their aggressive and illegal actions towards Chinese companies such as Huawei, Tik Tok and ZTE are showing the World that USA could not care less about following International rules and norms. They are seeking a total decoupling from China and China must safeguard itself as best as possible and protect its own interests and minimise losses and damage as much as is possible. China must up its PR game and highlight to the World the underhanded tactics of the West and rally friendly and neutral nations to either join China's side or at the very least not choose the West's side against China. China must prepare for life in a World where they are separated from Western markets and technology. It's not what China wants but it's the irreversible direction America and the West is pushing the World towards. The World will be a poorer place for it but this just seems to be how things are going to be.
 
The Americans and the West spout their adherence to the rule of law but their aggressive and illegal actions towards Chinese companies such as Huawei, Tik Tok and ZTE are showing the World that USA could not care less about following International rules and norms. They are seeking a total decoupling from China and China must safeguard itself as best as possible and protect its own interests and minimise losses and damage as much as is possible. China must up its PR game and highlight to the World the underhanded tactics of the West and rally friendly and neutral nations to either join China's side or at the very least not choose the West's side against China. China must prepare for life in a World where they are separated from Western markets and technology. It's not what China wants but it's the irreversible direction America and the West is pushing the World towards. The World will be a poorer place for it but this just seems to be how things are going to be.

What international rules and norms are you talking about here? Do these same rules apply to China who has banned US apps but use them to spread their propaganda in the West?
 
It is illegal if president uses his office to intervene in the free market. Trump in big trouble now. I can see Trump losing the court case the same way he lost the court case against banning Muslim from 7 countries.
 
I thought Feng Leng will send DF-* missile with nuclear war head. But settles down for just suing.
 
Trump can't ban TikTok until the court case is settled and that could take years going all the way to the supreme court.
 
What international rules and norms are you talking about here? Do these same rules apply to China who has banned US apps but use them to spread their propaganda in the West?
For foreign companies who don't want to abide by Chinese security law and refuse Chinese government's requests to locate their data centers in China, yes, banning them does meet international rules and norms.
 
The U.S. cangaroo "courts" and pirate "laws" are a farce and there is nothing to expect from their fake justice system. Its not even really an appeal to the American public. Just protocol and the least bit of professionalism. When China enforces compulsory education for minorities the U.S. regime and every rubberstamp and water carrying "independent", "checked" and "balanced" American institution drops the usual bread and game show and unanonymously slanders it as oppression. When America brutaly murders the same people they call it liberation and freedom and their bread and game show opposition actors will at best bicker about not being invited to rubbestamp the massmurder.

The widely ignorant and uneducated American population wont even hear what a Chinese company actually has to say in defence against the lies thrown at it and whats really at stake through the filters of their government controlled media mouthpiecs that distracts them every day with vapid hate, contempt and selfindulgence. They are living in a toxic bubble of fumes created by their piles of propaganda and fakenews, much like some noisy monkeys on the sideline that glee over Chinas struggle against this regressive imperialism.
 
What international rules and norms are you talking about here? Do these same rules apply to China who has banned US apps but use them to spread their propaganda in the West?
China is a communist and US brag to be democracy. Then US has to play by the rules of democracy. If not, they are no different from communist, right? :enjoy: What is the freedom and what is the right if US so called democracy can suddenly be abused and do whatever they want.
 
I thought Feng Leng will send DF-* missile with nuclear war head. But settles down for just suing.
Yup, when is India going to attack China for killing 22 indian soldiers with bare hand while suffer no fatality? Instead all india do is ban tiktok and a few petty ban which tells the world that life of 22 indian soldiers isnt worth that much. :enjoy:
 
For foreign companies who don't want to abide by Chinese security law and refuse Chinese government's requests to locate their data centers in China, yes, banning them does meet international rules and norms.

Exactly!! TikTok got nailed for NOT doing that. That's why they are being banned.

www.npr.org/2020/08/04/898836158/class-action-lawsuit-claims-tiktok-steals-kids-data-and-sends-it-to-china
Class-Action Lawsuit Claims TikTok Steals Kids' Data And Sends It To China

TikTok said its primary servers for its U.S. users are in Virginia and its backup servers are in Singapore.

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TikTok is now screwed in the US market because as you said "banning them does meet international rules and norms."
 
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Exactly!! TikTok got nailed for NOT doing that. That's why they are being banned.

www.npr.org/2020/08/04/898836158/class-action-lawsuit-claims-tiktok-steals-kids-data-and-sends-it-to-china
Class-Action Lawsuit Claims TikTok Steals Kids' Data And Sends It To China

TikTok said its primary servers for its U.S. users are in Virginia and its backup servers are in Singapore.

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TikTok is now screwed in the US market because as you said "banning them does meet international rules and norms."
US used self produced lie as evidence to accuse others. We are familiar with that trick.
 
US used self produced lie as evidence to accuse others. We are familiar with that trick.

No trick. TikTok said the backup servers are in Singapore.

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https://www.scmp.com/tech/apps-soci...ed-fine-south-korea-over-mishandled-user-data
TikTok slapped with fine in South Korea over mishandled user data
TikTok illegally collected 6,000 pieces of user data and transferred its users’ information in Korea to servers in Singapore and the US, according to a report by the Yonhap News Agency, which cited the KCC.
 

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