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WASHINGTON: The United States has an important and vital relationship with Pakistan and it cannot be ignored even if it is ‘complicated’, says the US State Department.

At a news briefing in Washington on Friday afternoon, the department’s spokesman John Kirby also urged Pakistan to keep open the Torkham border with Afghanistan.

“It is an important, vital relationship that we strongly believe in. Is it complicated at times? Absolutely, it is,” Mr Kirby said when asked to comment on Foreign Affairs Adviser Sartaj Aziz’s recent statement that the relationship between the US and Pakistan has been under stress for the past three months.

“Do we see eye to eye on every issue with Pakistan? No, we don’t. But that’s why the relationship matters so much, because we have shared threats and shared concerns, shared interest in the region, and we’re going to continue to work at it,” Mr Kirby said.

“I would not share that characterisation of it,” the US official replied when a journalist asked if he would acknowledge that this was not “the best of relationships at this point”.

“It is an important relationship that we continue to work at very, very seriously, and we’re going to remain committed to,” he said.

“Afghanistan and Pakistan still face a shared threat from terrorist networks, which continue to still use the spine between those two countries as safe haven,” Mr Kirby replied when asked to comment on Afghan President Ashraf Ghani’s recent statement that his country was fighting an undeclared war with Pakistan.

“That’s why we still have a counter-terrorism presence in Afghanistan. It’s why we continue to work with the government of Pakistan as best as we can to help share information as appropriate to help all sides go after this shared threat,” he said.

“This is a shared, common enemy to the people of Afghanistan and to the people of Pakistan, and they have been working and communicating together, and we want to see that kind of dialogue and cooperation continue and to improve.”

Mr Kirby noted that Pakistan had reopened the Torkham border after weeks of tensions and advised both countries to keep it open.

“We want to see it stay open … and we want to see both sides to work through these differences,” he said.

At an international conference on corruption in London on Thursday, President Ghani also rejected British Prime Minister David Cameron’s claim that Afghanistan and Nigeria were among the most corrupt countries in the world. Mr Ghani argued that Afghanistan had a drug problem because there’s demand for drugs in Europe and this problem could be solved by curbing the demand for narcotics.

“The narcotics trade in Afghanistan obviously has been a longstanding problem. We know that the Taliban” continued to profit and to resource themselves off the narcotics trade, so this was not a new concern, Mr Kirby said while commenting on President Ghani’s statement.

“We know that he’s very focused on the issue of corruption in Afghanistan and we fully support those efforts.”

Published in Dawn, May 15th, 2016
 
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WASHINGTON: The United States has an important and vital relationship with Pakistan and it cannot be ignored even if it is ‘complicated’, says the US State Department.

At a news briefing in Washington on Friday afternoon, the department’s spokesman John Kirby also urged Pakistan to keep open the Torkham border with Afghanistan.

“It is an important, vital relationship that we strongly believe in. Is it complicated at times? Absolutely, it is,” Mr Kirby said when asked to comment on Foreign Affairs Adviser Sartaj Aziz’s recent statement that the relationship between the US and Pakistan has been under stress for the past three months.

“Do we see eye to eye on every issue with Pakistan? No, we don’t. But that’s why the relationship matters so much, because we have shared threats and shared concerns, shared interest in the region, and we’re going to continue to work at it,” Mr Kirby said.

“I would not share that characterisation of it,” the US official replied when a journalist asked if he would acknowledge that this was not “the best of relationships at this point”.

“It is an important relationship that we continue to work at very, very seriously, and we’re going to remain committed to,” he said.

“Afghanistan and Pakistan still face a shared threat from terrorist networks, which continue to still use the spine between those two countries as safe haven,” Mr Kirby replied when asked to comment on Afghan President Ashraf Ghani’s recent statement that his country was fighting an undeclared war with Pakistan.

“That’s why we still have a counter-terrorism presence in Afghanistan. It’s why we continue to work with the government of Pakistan as best as we can to help share information as appropriate to help all sides go after this shared threat,” he said.

“This is a shared, common enemy to the people of Afghanistan and to the people of Pakistan, and they have been working and communicating together, and we want to see that kind of dialogue and cooperation continue and to improve.”

Mr Kirby noted that Pakistan had reopened the Torkham border after weeks of tensions and advised both countries to keep it open.

“We want to see it stay open … and we want to see both sides to work through these differences,” he said.

At an international conference on corruption in London on Thursday, President Ghani also rejected British Prime Minister David Cameron’s claim that Afghanistan and Nigeria were among the most corrupt countries in the world. Mr Ghani argued that Afghanistan had a drug problem because there’s demand for drugs in Europe and this problem could be solved by curbing the demand for narcotics.

“The narcotics trade in Afghanistan obviously has been a longstanding problem. We know that the Taliban” continued to profit and to resource themselves off the narcotics trade, so this was not a new concern, Mr Kirby said while commenting on President Ghani’s statement.

“We know that he’s very focused on the issue of corruption in Afghanistan and we fully support those efforts.”

Published in Dawn, May 15th, 2016

YES YOU CAN AMERICANS. Please ignore us and act as if we don't exist. And most of all PLEASE LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE. We've quite frankly had enough of you the last 70 years. Now please GO AWAY. Only our relationship with China matters. All others are meaningless.
 
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US has one thing in mind and that is 100% clear to them that Pakistan is neither Afghanistan nor Iraq. so they can't ignore Pakistan.
yes thank you for pointing out that USA knows how to read a map .

YES YOU CAN AMERICANS. Please ignore us and act as if we don't exist. And most of all PLEASE LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE. We've quite frankly had enough of you the last 70 years. Now please GO AWAY. Only our relationship with China matters. All others are meaningless.
Lol weren't you the one's that keep dragging USA into everything ? More importantly you brought everything in yourself , no one forced you to be a country for proxy war with ussr .
 
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Americans are in a no position to give much of threats to Pakistan because no meter what we say the luxury which they enjoyed over the years with Pakistan who will offer them elsewhere???
 
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Lol weren't you the one's that keep dragging USA into everything ? More importantly you brought everything in yourself , no one forced you to be a country for proxy war with ussr .

Pakistan wasn't a democratic country during the '80s i.e. it didn't vote for a comprehensive relationship with the US like how you Indians voted for a prime minister who supported the USSR's attempts to turn India into an active KGB base. So your shitpost falls flat right there.
 
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Two things seem to be happening that many people are completely ignoring, the US government trying to repair the damage that congress caused, and Pakistan resuming work on fencing the border between itself and Afghanistan.

These are events things to keep in mind, because a) the US government is still committed to Pakistani concerns, despite what many people on here may continue to say. b) Pakistan forced Afghanistan to back off from an issue that Afghans continue to use as propaganda.
 
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Pakistan wasn't a democratic country during the '80s i.e. it didn't vote for a comprehensive relationship with the US like how you Indians voted for a prime minister who supported the USSR's attempts to turn India into an active KGB base. So your shitpost falls flat right there.
Its your countries history , the shame of the predecessor is carried on the present . But non the less I just can't get past the irony of Someone who has historically kept dragging USA into its bilateral problems is now yelling to leave you alone kek

O and your shitpost on India is amusing , do you even understand why we are the founding fathers of the non alignment movement ? We have close ties with saudi, Iran , Israel & Palestine at the same time .
 
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Very interesting statement by US spokesman. I can't find word friendly or friend or ally in this statement, but may be Pakistani civil & military ruling elite can find it, hidden somewhere or may be deep buried.
 
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yes thank you for pointing out that USA knows how to read a map .


Lol weren't you the one's that keep dragging USA into everything ? More importantly you brought everything in yourself , no one forced you to be a country for proxy war with ussr .

Yes. But that was 30 years ago. Time to move on and part company. It will be the best for both countries.
 
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yes thank you for pointing out that USA knows how to read a map .


Lol weren't you the one's that keep dragging USA into everything ? More importantly you brought everything in yourself , no one forced you to be a country for proxy war with ussr .
As for the USSR, Pak wanted to pay back for breaking her in 1971...

Very interesting statement by US spokesman. I can't find word friendly or friend or ally in this statement, but may be Pakistani civil & military ruling elite can find it, hidden somewhere or may be deep buried.
I think the USA and Pak should engage in a business like manner with everything , pragmatically possible, spelled out with clear action items and time lines to be honored by both sides. So, no room for getting emotional or heartbroken - applicable for both sides. Pak is too important for the USA to ignore and Pak can negotiate to get the best deals on return...
 
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It's not about getting emotional or heartbroken. If you look into Pakistan-US relations history, they were only good in the durations when US needed Pakistan. They betrayed or even back stabbed during the time when Pakistan needed US, like wars with India.

No one asks for cutting of complete ties but they should be just normal relations, non military alliance kind of relations. Pak supported US in their time of need, and as a result she's bleeding. This war in Afghanistan, it was never Pakistan's war, but now it is made Pakistan's war, deliberately and intentionally. This war is not yet over and you can see the turning eyes of Uncle Sam once again. i.e. the F-16 politics and influence of India in Afghanistan under umbrella of US.


As for the USSR, Pak wanted to pay back for breaking her in 1971...


I think the USA and Pak should engage in a business like manner with everything , pragmatically possible, spelled out with clear action items and time lines to be honored by both sides. So, no room for getting emotional or heartbroken - applicable for both sides. Pak is too important for the USA to ignore and Pak can negotiate to get the best deals on return...
 
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As for the USSR, Pak wanted to pay back for breaking her in 1971...

The Soviets didn't have any combative part in the Bangladesh war.USSR intimidated USA as the USA intimidated India , Everything else was between India , Pakistan & freedom fighters
 
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Its your countries history , the shame of the predecessor is carried on the present.

Not when it's a military dictatorship in charge. And if history works like the way you're assuming it does, you'd think the Indian populace would be ashamed for not voting in just one genocidal leader/party, but two.


But non the less I just can't get past the irony of Someone who has historically kept dragging USA into its bilateral problems is now yelling to leave you alone kek

Cold War =/= Modern Times
You folks need to enter the modern era. From the looks of it, you're still stuck in the times when one could blissfully defecate in the middle of the streets, lynch a Sikh on the way to work and starve while spinning cotton on a wheel. :disagree:


O and your shitpost on India is amusing , do you even understand why we are the founding fathers of the non alignment movement ? We have close ties with saudi, Iran , Israel & Palestine at the same time .

Did you just see the link I provided, which explicitly stated that Indira Gandhi took numerous bribes so the KGB could build a base in India without being hindered by politicians? Non-alignment movement your dark, greasy ***
 
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