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TIB: India, China forcing Bangladesh to set up coal-fired plants
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https://www.dhakatribune.com/climat...orcing-bangladesh-to-set-up-coal-fired-plants
  • Published at 06:36 pm September 27th, 2019

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TIB chief Dr Iftekharuzzaman addresses a human chain in front of the press club on Friday, September 27, 2019 Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka Tribune


Both the countries have moved away from coal-fired power production in their own country and come to Bangladesh, TIB said

India and China are forcing the Bangladesh government to set-up coal-fired power plants, graft watchdog Transparency International Bangladesh (TIB) has said.

TIB chief Dr Iftekharuzzaman on Friday called on the government and the investors to “move away from the conspirators, especially India and China.”

He made the call during a TIB human chain on "Global Climate Strike" in front of the National Press Club.

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People holding placard in the human chain on "Global Climate Strike"in front of the National Press Club on Friday, September 27, 2019 Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka tribune

“They [India and China] have moved away from coal-fired power production in their own country and come to ours,” he said.

“We are contributing to climate change through the coal-fired power plants, and it is extremely disturbing for us,” he added.

He urged the government to shut down all coal-related projects by 2020.

TIB said the carbon-emitting coal-fired power plants across the country are not in line with Bangladesh’s pledge of reducing the carbon footprint by 5% within 2030.
 
Sure, shut down all coal power plant and no electricity for progress and development.

Coal power plant is the cheapest form of energy. Even in US and China ,coal power station still exists.

A developing country cannot be too choosy.
 
BD members always accuse China of hurting their country or damaging their economy, the simple fact is that they are a sovereign country, they can just stop trading with China or ban Chinese investments and loans, no one stops them doing so, don't know what they are complaining about.
 
Both the countries have moved away from coal-fired power production in their own country and come to Bangladesh, TIB said
What TIB says is true. But, in the past when both India were at the lowest rung of the world economy they had to build coal-fired power plants. It is also the same in ALL other developed countries of the world.

Bangladesh is at present at the lowest rung of development. It is impossible for it to go only after expensive non-coal sources. It will have to rely on cheaper coal-based power stations for the next few decades after which it can switch to other sources if the economy can take it.

However, the coal-fired plants in BD must be supercritical thermal power stations while India and China should dismantle their own coal-based power plants and replace them with expensive non-coal plants. It is not BD that is causing environmental degradation. It is India and China that are causing most of the world's pollution.
 
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What why did we spend so much money for nuclear power plant than.
 
TIB: India, China forcing Bangladesh to set up coal-fired plants
Tribune Desk

https://www.dhakatribune.com/climat...orcing-bangladesh-to-set-up-coal-fired-plants
  • Published at 06:36 pm September 27th, 2019

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TIB chief Dr Iftekharuzzaman addresses a human chain in front of the press club on Friday, September 27, 2019 Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka Tribune


Both the countries have moved away from coal-fired power production in their own country and come to Bangladesh, TIB said

India and China are forcing the Bangladesh government to set-up coal-fired power plants, graft watchdog Transparency International Bangladesh (TIB) has said.

TIB chief Dr Iftekharuzzaman on Friday called on the government and the investors to “move away from the conspirators, especially India and China.”

He made the call during a TIB human chain on "Global Climate Strike" in front of the National Press Club.

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People holding placard in the human chain on "Global Climate Strike"in front of the National Press Club on Friday, September 27, 2019 Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka tribune

“They [India and China] have moved away from coal-fired power production in their own country and come to ours,” he said.

“We are contributing to climate change through the coal-fired power plants, and it is extremely disturbing for us,” he added.

He urged the government to shut down all coal-related projects by 2020.

TIB said the carbon-emitting coal-fired power plants across the country are not in line with Bangladesh’s pledge of reducing the carbon footprint by 5% within 2030.

Of course China can also provide advanced nuclear power station, but it depends your choice.
 
BD members always accuse China of hurting their country or damaging their economy, the simple fact is that they are a sovereign country, they can just stop trading with China or ban Chinese investments and loans, no one stops them doing so, don't know what they are complaining about.

The complaints in Bangladesh for Chinese investments are few and far between, when compared to Indonesia, Philippines, India and even Pakistan. Here in PDF itself there are anti-Chinese (anti-CPEC) posts by Pakistani-flagged posters.

In spite of labor issues here and there, people (and the leaders) largely welcome Chinese investments and business folks. And Bangladesh with 160 million people (mostly under 25 folks) are the most natural destination for Chinese investments and sunset industries which have become too expensive to run in China.

Already there are lots of Chinese investments in Bangladesh,

Move over, ‘Made in China’. It’s the ‘Made in Bangladesh’ era now
  • Soaring wages at home have seen many Chinese firms set up shop in Bangladesh, boosting its economic growth, expected at 8 per cent this year
  • But while there has been a backlash against Chinese investments and workers in the Philippines and Indonesia, Dhaka is more welcoming


Phila Siu

Published: 7:45am, 8 Jun, 2019

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Workers at a Chinese-run factory in Bangladesh produce 12 million toys a year. Photo: Phila Siu

When Chinese businessman Leo Zhuang Lifeng arrived in Dhaka 22 years ago, only one of the two luggage conveyor belts in the airport was functioning. The lighting wasn’t working properly, either.

The rundown airport in the capital of Bangladesh prepared many Chinese and foreign businessmen for what they were about to experience in the country, which was still an economic backwater at the time, with frequent power outages and inadequate infrastructure.

Zhuang, now 51, landed in Dhaka in 1997 to set up garment factories there, taking advantage of the low labor costs and abundant supply of workers. “Back then, there was a lack of daily commodities. It was not even easy to buy instant noodles,” said Zhuang, managing director of the LDC Group, which now employs about 20,000 workers in the country. “But Bangladesh has gone through tremendous changes over the years, though of course you cannot compare those changes to what China has experienced.”

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Workers make eyeglasses at a factory owned by a Hongkonger in Bangladesh’s Uttara Export Processing Zone. Photo: Phila Siu

His factory compounds were so big they resembled villages on their own. There were medical centres providing free consultation for staff and their family members, as well as day-care centres for their children.

Such compounds are now everywhere in Bangladesh, as Chinese and other foreign investors have kept coming. This investment has transformed the country into a manufacturing powerhouse with 3.5 million labourers making clothing for local and international brands such as Uniqlo and H&M. Luxury brands such as Michael Kors also have some products made in Bangladesh.

As wages soar in China, more clothing is expected to carry the tag “Made in Bangladesh” rather than “Made in China” in the years to come.

Zhuang, now the president of the Overseas Chinese Association in Bangladesh, estimated there were only 20 to 30 Chinese companies in Bangladesh 22 years ago. By his estimate, that number has since grown to roughly 400 in the relatively young South Asian country, which gained independence from Pakistan in 1971.

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The factory compound of Chinese businessman Leo Zhuang Lifeng’s LDC Group has a medical centre and a day-care centre. Photo: Phila Siu

Chinese loans have boosted Bangladesh’s economic growth. For about a decade, it grew at an average of 6 per cent, but is expected to hit 8.13 per cent this year, making the country one of the fastest-growing economies in the world.

Bangladesh’s ability to achieve such fast and stable economic growth over the years has raised eyebrows. In interviews, however, Bangladesh’s Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Mohammed Shahriar Alam as well as Information Minister Dr Hasan Mahmud said the administration was able to handle the debt because the economy was strong.

Bangladesh looks for alternatives to China’s belt and road loans
The information minister also made it clear Dhaka did not want to become dependent on any country, and his administration would befriend any country extending their support to Bangladesh’s development. “We have a wonderful economic relationship with India,” he said, pointing to the billions of dollars in loans India has granted Bangladesh. “Your question is whether we will be able to pay back the (Chinese) loans. No worries for Bangladesh.”

Analysts say Dhaka has avoided the so-called Chinese debt trap because while it cosies up to China, it continues to seek economic partnerships with other countries, in particular India.

FROM CHINA TO BANGLADESH

Despite its rapid economic growth, Dhaka remains different from other Asian capitals such as Jakarta, Manila and Phnom Penh. Its infrastructure, including highways, is lacking; during peak hours, there is so much traffic that it can take three frustrating hours to navigate a distance of 50km.

But Bangladesh’s ample room for development is precisely why it has drawn so many investors. Among them is Hong Kong businessman Felix Chang Yoe-chong, chairman of the Hong Kong-listed Evergreen Products Group, one of the largest wig manufacturers in the world. Since moving his factories from mainland China to Bangladesh, he now has 18,000 workers who produce 300,000 to 400,000 wigs a month in the Uttara Export Processing Zone, an hour’s flight from Dhaka.

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Hong Kong businessman Felix Chang Yoe-chong is chairman of Evergreen Products Group, which has 18,000 workers in Bangladesh. Photo: Phila Siu

Some 20 companies, among them about six from Hong Kong, have set up factories in the 213-acre zone. There are eight such zones across Bangladesh, allowing companies to import materials needed to make their products at a reduced or zero tax rate. This concessionary tax policy applies to their exports as well.

Like many entrepreneurs from Hong Kong and mainland China who set up factories in Bangladesh, Chang, 53, did so 10 years ago because of rapidly rising labour costs on the mainland. “I had to move my factories to somewhere in Asia. It was not just the wages, the social welfare benefits we needed to give our workers in the mainland were rising as well,” he said.

A decade ago, Chang’s company had factories in the Chinese cities of Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Kunming, as well as in Henan province. He has shut the Guangzhou factory and drastically scaled down the other Chinese factories. Now, 93 per cent of his company’s wigs are manufactured in Bangladesh.

Before Chang moved his factories there, he was paying his Chinese workers about 2,000 yuan (US$289) a month. Soon after the relocation, he was paying local employees the monthly minimum wage of just 170 yuan, or US$25.

The minimum wage in Bangladesh currently is US$95 a month, which is still lower than those in other Asian countries. It is US$182 a month in Cambodia; US$180 a month in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City, though lower in other Vietnamese cities; and US$3.60 per day in Myanmar.

Zhuang from the LDC Group – which had factories in Gazipur city, a drive of about two hours from Dhaka – said a problem with setting up factories in Cambodia was that the country had strong unions and a small population of just 16 million. By comparison, Bangladesh’s population is 160 million.

He also said he was not in favour of Vietnam because production costs and wages were rising fast. “Corruption in Cambodia is common. The population is small and the unions are powerful,” Zhuang said.

Despite the huge increase in the number of Chinese companies since Zhuang arrived in Bangladesh 22 years ago, their presence is still relatively small compared with countries such as the Philippines and Indonesia, where Chinese workers and businessmen are easily seen in the capitals.

While the Chinese influx has caused uneasiness and anger in those countries, such sentiment has not emerged in Bangladesh.

INSUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE

It was the summer rainy season when Chang of Evergreen Products first arrived in Bangladesh a decade ago.

“There were heavy rains so Dhaka was flooded. The water was so high the wheels of my vehicle were completely submerged in water,” he recalled.

“The electricity was really bad. There were always power outages in my Dhaka office every time I came. It lasted for an hour each time. But there were almost no outages in recent years. The roads are now being widened. Highways and flyovers are also being built.”

During Chang’s first few years in the country, there was no flight from Dhaka to where his factories were located. Even though there was an airport, it was not open because hardly anyone was using it. It meant that every time he had to go to his factories, he had to travel over land for nine to 12 hours, depending on traffic conditions.

In a sign of how much has changed, there are now several heli-flights to his factories in the Uttara zone every day.

“The advantage of doing business in Bangladesh is that the wage is low. The downside is that shipping takes a long time. But for me, a solution is to have more wig materials stored in the factories.”

Hongkonger David Lam Ming-heung, general manager of an eyeglass manufacturer in the same export zone, understands the logistics troubles all too well.

It usually took a month to have materials shipped from mainland China to Bangladesh, he said, adding that it could take an extra week if there were no available berths.

“Bangladesh right now is like China when China was first opening up [in the 1970s],” said Lam, 53, who oversees 3,700 workers in the factory. “Bangladesh is using the China model to grow its economy.”
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Hongkonger David Lam Ming-heung is the general manager of an eyeglass manufacturer in the Uttara export zone. Photo: Phila Siu

A FRIEND TO ALL

Beijing’s support of Bangladesh was evident in the 27 agreements for investments and loans signed by the two countries – amounting to a reported US$24 billion – when President Xi Jinping visited in 2016.

Net foreign direct investment from China into Bangladesh exploded after Xi’s visit. It reached US$506 million in the 2017/2018 financial year, according to the Bangladeshi newspaper The Financial Express , a substantial increase from US$68.5 million in 2016/2017.

Chen Wei, deputy chief of mission at China’s embassy in Dhaka, declined to say what proportion of loans made up the deals signed in 2016. But he stressed that concerns about China creating a debt trap for Bangladesh were a “total misunderstanding” and “smears” that were “totally groundless”.

Professor Brahma Chellaney, from New Delhi’s Centre of Policy Research, estimates that Bangladesh’s public medium- and long-term debt is equivalent to about 14 per cent of its gross domestic product. “This level of debt is moderate. [Bangladesh] wants to ensure that its debt level remains manageable. So it wants to implement Chinese-financed projects in a way that undergirds its prudent approach,” he said, adding that Sri Lanka’s controversial deal signing over the operations of its Hambantota port to China for 99 years
served as a “wake-up call to Bangladesh to avoid slipping into a Chinese debt trap”.
Chellaney added that Bangladesh had relied on assistance from not just China, but also
India, Japan and South Korea to power its economy. “Despite China’s enlarging footprint in Bangladesh, Indian and Japanese assistance and investment remain critical. Bangladesh wishes to sustain its impressive economic growth by cooperating with all powers, without choosing one over another,” he said.

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MP Muhammad Shafiqur Rahman supports Chinese investment in Bangladesh. Photo: Phila Siu

Professor David Lewis, author of Bangladesh: Politics, Economy and Civil Society , said the country’s economy was strong because of its effective export strategy. “It has grown fast on the back of these exports, chiefly the ready-made garment sector, which has been central to the country’s growth,” said the academic from the London School of Economics and Political Science. “Also important have been international remittances in part arising from its very enterprising people, but also from well-managed migration policies. Also, it’s important to note that Bangladesh has benefited indirectly from India’s successful economy.”

Bangladesh, the second-largest exporter of clothing after China, is expected to export US$39 billion of clothing this year. The government wants the figure to hit US$50 billion in 2021.

Alam, the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, said his administration had been looking at other financing models rather than just borrowing from other countries. He said it was contemplating a public-private partnership under which, for example, a foreign company would build a power plant, sell the electricity produced to recoup its cost, and then turn over the plant’s ownership to the government after some years.

Last year, Bangladesh fulfilled the United Nations criteria to graduate from being a “least developed country” to a “developing country”.

Mehdi Hasan, Bangladesh’s consul general to Hong Kong, said China would be one of the major forces to help Bangladesh achieve its goal of becoming a developed country by 2041. “An attraction is the cost of labour. It’s the lowest in Bangladesh. It’s becoming higher even in Vietnam … There are 160 million people in Bangladesh, 57 per cent of the population is below 25 years old. The population is young.”

HOME AWAY FROM HOME

Some 2,300km from his home province of Hunan, Thomas Zou Haibo is a shadow of his former self. Since the assistant manager of a handbag factory started working in the Uttara zone seven years ago, his weight dropped from 90kg to just 70kg.

“I was one of the seven people who were sent here by my company seven years ago. When I first came, there was only 2G internet here and we could not get any Chinese television channels. There was no entertainment. It was just work every day,” said Zou, 33.

The hundreds of Chinese working in the companies in the export zone were close knit. Many of them lived in the same buildings, sharing meals and singing karaoke in their flats over the weekend. That was the closest to a Chinatown in the zone.

“After all these years working here, I have developed a sense of belonging with the people here,” Zou said. “But I do miss home. That’s why I go home two to three times a year.”

David Zhao Zhiwen, manager of a toy factory in the zone, misses his two children. He oversees 4,200 workers who make 12 million toy models a year. His day starts at 7am and ends 12 hours later; he supervises every procedure, from the melting of metals to the moulding of the toys.

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Chinese national David Zhao Zhiwen manages 4,200 workers in a Bangladesh factory. Photo: Phila Siu

When Zhao, now 39, came to Bangladesh seven years ago to set up a factory in the Uttara zone, the area was a quiet village with mostly small bamboo houses on the two sides of the road. The zone has since given the area a total facelift, with about 30,000 workers employed there now.

“I came here to make money and provide a better quality of life for my family. I go back home [to Hunan] three times a year and stay there for 10 days each time. It’s worth coming here to work,” said Zhao, whose family does not live with him in Bangladesh.

There are about 100 Chinese employees at Zhao’s factory, mostly managers and technicians. “We need Chinese here to teach and pass on our techniques to the Bangladeshi workers,” he said.

In contrast to the backlash that has erupted in the Philippines and Indonesia, Bangladeshis and politicians in the country have been supportive of Chinese investors and workers. Muhammad Shafiqur Rahman, a member of the Bangladesh parliament, is one of them. “We welcome everyone from every country in the world … Chinese people are already here in the whole country. If you visit our markets, shopping malls, you see a lot of things that are made in China. Chinese investment is helping the country.”

Farhan Haq, a law lecturer at the Central Women’s University in Dhaka, said: “Infrastructure is being built in the country. A lot of Chinese are here, investors and workers. They have created a lot of opportunities for the locals. We are not concerned. We are happy. They are helping the economy.”
 
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No one complains in BD about Chinese or other countries' investment in manufacturing. The thread is all about coal-fired power plants proposed by India and China. But, some garbage poster wrote a long story in post #7 in a way as if BD people are against Chinese investment.

Idiots should post less and type the keyboard after giving proper thought to what he is writing. The Tabla sound should match the song.
 
The only complain I have of China are their MLM companies. These companies rely on shady marketing tactics and provide snake oil products to poor , uneducated people. Health products promising to cure even cancer but they wont market openly or allow neutral scrutiny. Many high level politicians and celebrities in Bangladesh are involved in these MLM business so any misconduct is swept under the rugs using hush money.

Worst part is that they use herd conformity and act as cult. And most of the real money comes from acquisition of new members instead of selling a good working product.
 
The only complain I have of China are their MLM companies. These companies rely on shady marketing tactics and provide snake oil products to poor , uneducated people. Health products promising to cure even cancer but they wont market openly or allow neutral scrutiny. Many high level politicians and celebrities in Bangladesh are involved in these MLM business so any misconduct is swept under the rugs using hush money.

Worst part is that they use herd conformity and act as cult. And most of the real money comes from acquisition of new members instead of selling a good working product.
If that's true, ban them even arrest them, that's what we do if a situation like what you claimed occurs.
 
Of course China can also provide advanced nuclear power station, but it depends your choice.
I once saw a thread about BD members complained about BN buys 035B sub and claim it's junk. They claimed BD and can printed unlimited money and buy German U214 sub and few US CVN to boast up their navy.. See how unrealsitic these group of people who always smoke high grass to keep themselves from reality that they are a USD300billion economy and not 300trillion.
 
TIB: India, China forcing Bangladesh to set up coal-fired plants
Tribune Desk

https://www.dhakatribune.com/climat...orcing-bangladesh-to-set-up-coal-fired-plants
  • Published at 06:36 pm September 27th, 2019

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TIB chief Dr Iftekharuzzaman addresses a human chain in front of the press club on Friday, September 27, 2019 Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka Tribune


Both the countries have moved away from coal-fired power production in their own country and come to Bangladesh, TIB said

India and China are forcing the Bangladesh government to set-up coal-fired power plants, graft watchdog Transparency International Bangladesh (TIB) has said.

TIB chief Dr Iftekharuzzaman on Friday called on the government and the investors to “move away from the conspirators, especially India and China.”

He made the call during a TIB human chain on "Global Climate Strike" in front of the National Press Club.

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People holding placard in the human chain on "Global Climate Strike"in front of the National Press Club on Friday, September 27, 2019 Mehedi Hasan/Dhaka tribune

“They [India and China] have moved away from coal-fired power production in their own country and come to ours,” he said.

“We are contributing to climate change through the coal-fired power plants, and it is extremely disturbing for us,” he added.

He urged the government to shut down all coal-related projects by 2020.

TIB said the carbon-emitting coal-fired power plants across the country are not in line with Bangladesh’s pledge of reducing the carbon footprint by 5% within 2030.
Well Thts happens to slave nations like BD? IN the end been ordered???? Lolzz
 
Worst part is that they use herd conformity and act as cult. And most of the real money comes from acquisition of new members instead of selling a good working product.
Bold Part: Seems it is a kind of Chinese Pyramid Scheme in BD. Very bad!!
 
Developing a country is never easy work. You need coal to power economical industrialization in an affordable way. Nuke power is not cheap as we can see in the case of Roopur power project. Once you are developed, only then you can get fancy power plants, now is not the time.
 
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