Thousands of Indian Muslims volunteer to protect holy shrines in Iraq

[mujhaidind]

While the Indian government is considering a plan to evacuate some 10,000 of its nationals from war-torn Iraq, thousands at home have registered as volunteers to travel to the insurgency-wracked country caught in a conflict between Sunni Islamist militants and the majority Shia population. The volunteers are being organized by the Anjuman-e-Haideri, an organization that looks after the Dargah Shah-e-Mardan, a Shia mosque in South Delhi. The Anjuman’s general secretary, Janab S. Bahadur Abbas Naqvi, said the organization had received 125,000 letters from volunteers willing to travel to Iraq to “help the wounded, protect the holy shrines of the Shia faith and even help the Indian government bring back the Indian nationals stuck in Iraq”. “Most of these people—95%—are Shias, there are (other) denominations and faiths as well,” Naqvi said. Of this 125,000, some 6,000-8,000 had sent in their passports and completed visa forms, said Naqvi, who is planning to visit Iraq later this week for a seven-day trip. “What we plan to do is travel around Iraq, visit the places where we can send the volunteers and then return in a week or so. The delegation I am travelling with has six members and we are all professionals—doctors and lawyers,” Naqvi said. The cities of Najaf and Karbala are two places in Iraq that are especially revered by Shias worldwide. Najaf is home to the shrine of Imam Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammed, who Shias believe is the Caliph. Karbala houses the shrine of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Prophet. The ministry of external affairs in New Delhi, which has been working to bring back Indians from Iraq, did not comment on the Anjuman’s plans to facilitate the travel of volunteers. An official pointed out that there were two advisories issued by the ministry against travel to Iraq. Naqvi’s plans are expected to add to the problems of the Narendra Modi government, which according to reports, is troubled by news of Indian Sunni Muslims travelling to Iraq to join the militants. When asked if the organization was aware of the government advisories and the dangers of sending people across to Iraq, Naqvi said he knew about both. “The government of India is not responsible for us, we are fully aware of the problems and dangers associated with this,” Naqvi said. The Iraqi embassy in New Delhi was issuing visas and “is very happy that we are standing with them at this hour of their need,” Naqvi said. The volunteers would travel to Iraq through Iran, Yemen or Turkey, he said. According to the “Iraq volunteer form” circulated to people across the country and seen by Mint, volunteers acknowledge that they are adults and fully capable of taking their own decisions. “I am against terrorism which I believe is one of the most serious threat to humanity”, says the undertaking that each volunteer signs. “That the decision to travel to Iraq for defending the sanctity and honour of holy shrines in that country is solely my own. In fact I was contemplating of going there on my own and I am grateful to Anjuman E Haideri for facilitating this journey for myself and innumerable other individuals like me,” it says. The volunteers must also undertake that they will not violate any Indian, international or Iraqi laws during their stay and “all activities will always be within the four corners of legal framework”. This comes against the backdrop of worries expressed by many countries that many of their Muslim nationals were involved in the fighting in Iraq. The volunteers also state clearly that the decision to travel to Iraq is theirs and taken freely, “fully conscious of the imminent dangers and exigencies involved”.
Read more at:Thousands of Indian Muslims volunteer to protect holy shrines in Iraq - Livemint


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These people need to be stopped and arrested. Especially those clerics who are openly asking for volunteers.

 

[Gautam]

Good. We should send equal numbers of Shia and Sunni and organise a Dual in Baghdad. We should do it till the last man standing.

 

[mujhaidind]

Good. We should send equal numbers of Shia and Sunni and organise a Dual in Baghdad. We should do it till the last man standing.

@Biplab Bijay
Comparing 10-15 Indian sunnis fighting in Iraq to thousands of Shias who have already left for Iraq. They are recruiting terrorist in public. How can we allow that?

 

[Gautam]

@Biplab Bijay
Comparing 10-15 Indian sunnis fighting in Iraq to thousands of Shias who have already left for Iraq. They are recruiting terrorist in public. How can we allow that?

It is indeed a great injustice to our Sunni citizen like you. That's why I suggested that we should send them in equal numbers.
Gautam 1
mujhaind 0

 

[Gessler]

@Biplab Bijay
Comparing 10-15 Indian sunnis fighting in Iraq to thousands of Shias who have already left for Iraq. They are recruiting terrorist in public. How can we allow that?

They're not terrorists, atleast not yet. They are just militia out to protect their culture & history from aggression.

If they turn terrorist, then we will handle them.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

@Biplab Bijay
Comparing 10-15 Indian sunnis fighting in Iraq to thousands of Shias who have already left for Iraq. They are recruiting terrorist in public. How can we allow that?

We should not allow that. But you should not support that too. I was questioning you about your support. Do you think I support these guys ? Do you think this is Islam ?

 

[mujhaidind]

We should not allow that. But you should not support that too. I was questioning you about your support. Do you think I support these guys ?

I don't support them. Read my posts again. But Islam allows them.

 

[samy1618]

Go India go ..... We should do this to hhelp others

 

[Biplab Bijay]

I don't support them. Read my posts again.

you said that it is allowed in Islam and you said that its good to see young muslims are following Islam. When I asked is this Islam , you replied "yes". Is not it a support ?

 

[mujhaidind]

When I asked is this Islam , you replied "yes". Is not it a support ?

No it isn't. Support would mean me encouraging them to go there. I just said that it is Islamic. So I am neutral. If they want to go or not its their choice. I won't encourage or discourage their decision. Hope you understand that.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

No it isn't. Support would mean me encouraging them to go there. I just said that it is Islamic. So I am neutral. If they want to go or not its their choice. I won't encourage or discourage their decision. Hope you understand that.

If you say it is islamic, then it is dangerous. You claim yourself to be a muslim, saying Islam supports this is dangerous.

 

[mujhaidind]

If you say it is islamic, then it is dangerous. You claim yourself to be a muslim, saying Islam supports this is dangerous.

It's a new Iraq surge in the making, and it has nothing to do with the US Army. Thousands of Indian Shias have applied for visas to Iraq where a deadly sectarian conflict between the extreme Sunni Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and the country's majority Shia population threatens all of West Asia.
There could be many thousands more waiting to do just the same, and all this while our intelligence agencies piece together inputs on Indians fighting for ISIS. The reason for 'Mission Iraq', most Indian Shias say, is to stand by their brethren, protect their holy shrines and help the relief effort.
Najaf and Karbala are two places in Iraq that are especially revered by Shias worldwide.
In Najaf is the shrine of Imam Ali, the son-in-law of the prophet who the Shia believe is the righteous caliph. Karbala, on the other hand, has the shrine of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Prophet. After Mecca and Medina, Najaf is considered the holiest site by Shias.
Despite reports that India is a potential target for the extreme ISIS, more than 6,000 Indian Shias have applied for visas at the Embassy of Iraq. Next week, a delegation of five persons representing the Shia community, including cleric Maulana Kalbe Jawad and prominent lawyer Mahmood Pracha, is expected to travel to Iraq. "A delegation will be going to Iraq to make an assessment of the requirements there so that our volunteers can visit the country soon and help. We have got visa approvals," Bahadur Abbas Naqvi, secretary of Anjuman-e-Haideri, a Shia organisation that intends to send volunteers to Iraq, told Mail Today. Naqvi is among the five who will visit Iraq. Anjumane-Haideri vice-president Rais Abbas and joint secretary Shahzad Hussain are the two other members of the delegation.
ISIS terrorists have been targeting Shias in Iraq and the dreaded group has overrun several key cities like Mosul and Tikrit. While 46 nurses from Kerala, who were trapped in the conflict zone, have returned safely to India, 39 other Indian construction workers are still being held in Mosul by jihadists aligned with ISIS.
National Security Advisor Ajit Doval had recently visited Iraq while Intelligence Bureau Director Syed Asif Ibrahim is said to have to gone to Saudi Arabia to facilitate the return of the nurses to India. Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, the ISIS leader and self-proclaimed caliph of the Islamic State, has identified India as an enemy state and claimed it is one of the countries where Muslims do not have rights.
Sources in the security establishment are sceptical about Indians visiting Iraq and that too for tasks like protecting shrines and supporting the Shia community. While there have been intelligence alerts about Indians joining ISIS and fighting security forces, there are also concerns about India being a potential target of the dreaded terrorist group.
Sources said Shias from India visiting Iraq could be targeted by ISIS, since India is on radar of the Sunni terrorist group that has been on the rampage.
While a majority of the volunteers who intend to go to Iraq are Shias, there are also Sunnis and a small number of Hindus who are keen to visit Iraq to take part in relief works. Most of the Shia volunteers are from Delhi and cities in Uttar Pradesh like Lucknow and Meerut. The Anjuman-e-Haideri has plans to send at least 1,000 people to Iraq after the five-member delegation returns. "The first batch includes doctors, nurses and engineers who can help in relief work. People who can protect the shrines will also be sent," Naqvi said.
The organisation has written to Prime MinisterNarendra Modiand Home MinisterRajnath Singhabout its desire to send volunteers to Iraq. Naqvi claimed the Iraqi government does not have a problem with Indians going to Iraq to help.
"The Iraq government has welcomed us. The Iraqi Prime Minister has said he welcomes Indians helping in any manner," he said. Government sources said a background check of people volunteering to go to Iraq will be done. "We will coordinate with the Iraqi embassy and give them whatever information they need," said a government official. The Anjuman-e-Haideri says it has already recruited 1 lakh people who want travel to Iraq to protect members of their sect. Sources said the government does not want any of the Indians who visit Iraq to get involved in any illegal activity. "We don't want any Indians to be involved in violence," one official said.


http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/over-6000-indian-shias-seek-visa-to-iraq/1/371155.html
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Now this is dangerous. They have more patriotism towards Iraq and Iran. Why didn't volunteer in Kargil or to save Kashmiri Pandits?.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

It's a new Iraq surge in the making, and it has nothing to do with the US Army. Thousands of Indian Shias have applied for visas to Iraq where a deadly sectarian conflict between the extreme Sunni Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and the country's majority Shia population threatens all of West Asia.
There could be many thousands more waiting to do just the same, and all this while our intelligence agencies piece together inputs on Indians fighting for ISIS. The reason for 'Mission Iraq', most Indian Shias say, is to stand by their brethren, protect their holy shrines and help the relief effort.
Najaf and Karbala are two places in Iraq that are especially revered by Shias worldwide.
In Najaf is the shrine of Imam Ali, the son-in-law of the prophet who the Shia believe is the righteous caliph. Karbala, on the other hand, has the shrine of Imam Hussein, the grandson of the Prophet. After Mecca and Medina, Najaf is considered the holiest site by Shias.
Despite reports that India is a potential target for the extreme ISIS, more than 6,000 Indian Shias have applied for visas at the Embassy of Iraq. Next week, a delegation of five persons representing the Shia community, including cleric Maulana Kalbe Jawad and prominent lawyer Mahmood Pracha, is expected to travel to Iraq. "A delegation will be going to Iraq to make an assessment of the requirements there so that our volunteers can visit the country soon and help. We have got visa approvals," Bahadur Abbas Naqvi, secretary of Anjuman-e-Haideri, a Shia organisation that intends to send volunteers to Iraq, told Mail Today. Naqvi is among the five who will visit Iraq. Anjumane-Haideri vice-president Rais Abbas and joint secretary Shahzad Hussain are the two other members of the delegation.
ISIS terrorists have been targeting Shias in Iraq and the dreaded group has overrun several key cities like Mosul and Tikrit. While 46 nurses from Kerala, who were trapped in the conflict zone, have returned safely to India, 39 other Indian construction workers are still being held in Mosul by jihadists aligned with ISIS.
National Security Advisor Ajit Doval had recently visited Iraq while Intelligence Bureau Director Syed Asif Ibrahim is said to have to gone to Saudi Arabia to facilitate the return of the nurses to India. Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, the ISIS leader and self-proclaimed caliph of the Islamic State, has identified India as an enemy state and claimed it is one of the countries where Muslims do not have rights.
Sources in the security establishment are sceptical about Indians visiting Iraq and that too for tasks like protecting shrines and supporting the Shia community. While there have been intelligence alerts about Indians joining ISIS and fighting security forces, there are also concerns about India being a potential target of the dreaded terrorist group.
Sources said Shias from India visiting Iraq could be targeted by ISIS, since India is on radar of the Sunni terrorist group that has been on the rampage.
While a majority of the volunteers who intend to go to Iraq are Shias, there are also Sunnis and a small number of Hindus who are keen to visit Iraq to take part in relief works. Most of the Shia volunteers are from Delhi and cities in Uttar Pradesh like Lucknow and Meerut. The Anjuman-e-Haideri has plans to send at least 1,000 people to Iraq after the five-member delegation returns. "The first batch includes doctors, nurses and engineers who can help in relief work. People who can protect the shrines will also be sent," Naqvi said.
The organisation has written to Prime MinisterNarendra Modiand Home MinisterRajnath Singhabout its desire to send volunteers to Iraq. Naqvi claimed the Iraqi government does not have a problem with Indians going to Iraq to help.
"The Iraq government has welcomed us. The Iraqi Prime Minister has said he welcomes Indians helping in any manner," he said. Government sources said a background check of people volunteering to go to Iraq will be done. "We will coordinate with the Iraqi embassy and give them whatever information they need," said a government official. The Anjuman-e-Haideri says it has already recruited 1 lakh people who want travel to Iraq to protect members of their sect. Sources said the government does not want any of the Indians who visit Iraq to get involved in any illegal activity. "We don't want any Indians to be involved in violence," one official said.


Read more at:Exclusive: Over 6,000 Indian Shias seek visa to Iraq : India, News - India Today

so is it Islam ?

 

[mujhaidind]

so is it Islam ?

Theirs isn't!

 

[MOHSENAM]

@Biplab Bijay
Comparing 10-15 Indian sunnis fighting in Iraq to thousands of Shias who have already left for Iraq. They are recruiting terrorist in public. How can we allow that?

Do not BS .