This is what Israel-Arab peace looks like

[Solomon2]

this quote is for an evil looking liar such as peres,,,,,,,,,,if you claim to be righteous,,,,,then why do you look evil?

I don't see what you see and in any case looks aren't a reliable indication. During the French Revolution some revolutionaries loved their wives and children dearly and fed squirrels from the palms of their hands - but those endearing characteristics did not stop them from slaying thousands via the guillotine.

The Jew's are trying to pull the same trick the crusaders tried in the middle ages
They stole Palestine, they occupied our people, they stole Jerusalem

You're not sticking to facts and your analogies are simplistic. It's unfair that you were taught that way but Jews are not to be blamed for this deficiency in your childhood education, are we?

The Muslims in Israel are increasing The Muslim surrounding your evil little state are increasing The Muslims in the world are increasing

So now you abandon your moral pretense and wave the stick of power instead. Well, that's a good argument for the good people in the world to keep themselves armed and alert to the evils men like you promote - and more should be done to keep men like you from so terrifying others.

 

[hussain0216]

Not when you've stolen it in the first place,it's simple logic actually.

Wait a minute so the Jews can steal it from Muslims but your saying we can't take it back


That's like saying since the crusaders stole the holy lands from the Muslims we should have just let them take it


What B.S is that




There are 1.7 billion Muslims
Soon to be 2 billion
We represent 20 percent of Israel and growing and surround it's on all sides

With Muslims increasing everywhere, why give up against Israel after 64 years when we took back Jerusalem and the holy lands from the crusaders after over 100

 

[hussain0216]

I don't see what you see and in any case looks aren't a reliable indication. During the French Revolution some revolutionaries loved their wives and children dearly and fed squirrels from the palms of their hands - but those endearing characteristics did not stop them from slaying thousands via the guillotine.

You're not sticking to facts and your analogies are simplistic. It's unfair that you were taught that way but Jews are not to be blamed for this deficiency in your childhood education, are we?

So now you abandon your moral pretense and wave the stick of power instead. Well, that's a good argument for the good people in the world to keep themselves armed and alert to the evils men like you promote - and more should be done to keep men like you from so terrifying others.

There's no moral pretense, you Jews have stolen and occupied Palestine

It wasn't enough for you that your two faced actions throughout the ages have bought you pogroms and the Holocaust you intend to create another level of hatred amongst hundreds of millions of Muslims

Power comes and goes, the Muslim world isn't gone, it's at a weak ebb Yes
But not gone

There will eventually be a restoration of the Muslim world's strength


As Muslims why not keep pushing Israel, keep the numbers increasing within it and around it

Why not use the massive Muslim population to keep the pressure on Israel at all times until action can be taken

Disallow Israel any and all trade
Disallow any route to it land sea air or otherwise
Ban any company working with Israel
Etcetc
Etc

64 years is nothing from a historical perspective, why give up

I mean i an neither palestinian nor middle eastern but I hate usraelis like a mortal enemy,

 

[turbo charged]

I don't see what you see and in any case looks aren't a reliable indication.

no one cares about you....what you see and what you do not see,,,,,...

world knows that looks are reliable......you do good stuff you look good.......you do evil stuff you look evil......this is how it is...whether you admit it or not,,,,,this is not possible that a person who does good looks same as a person who does bad.....just like a person who takes bath daily will look different from a person who has not taken bath in 50 years.....this is just plain common sense....which a darwin type man like you are unable to comprehend......you are paid to lie.....$1 for one lie.....$2 dollars for spreading 2 lies......$100 dollars for lying whole day

this is how your greedy lot works....no morals.....no ideology....no principles to live by,,,,
today i read in news that israeli occupation is offering money to students from all over the world to defend zionists........this is your reality



bottom line is even if a single jew remains in palestine,fraud ,deception,looting landgrabbing will continue and there will be no peace......if you want peace.....simply go back to your home in poland,germany,britian and russia.

 

[Dubious]

Peace? Yea Israeli peace in exchange for unrest in WHOLE OF MIDDLE EAST?
Yup kill thousands in other countries and then REST IN PEACE YOURSELF? lovely aint it? Oh yea as a side time pass kill few Palestinians? WHAT PEACE? 1 country at peace on the expense of MANY OTHERS?

 

[flamer84]

Wait a minute so the Jews can steal it from Muslims but your saying we can't take it back


That's like saying since the crusaders stole the holy lands from the Muslims we should have just let them take it


What B.S is that




There are 1.7 billion Muslims
Soon to be 2 billion
We represent 20 percent of Israel and growing and surround it's on all sides

With Muslims increasing everywhere, why give up against Israel after 64 years when we took back Jerusalem and the holy lands from the crusaders after over 100

Ofcourse you can do what you want,the point i was trying to drive home is that in history we have these kind of episodes all over the place,everybody stole from everybody,insisting on it only brings pain and suffering.You could see to the future without trying to destroy an established nation,Israel.But,if you want to equate todays situation with illiterate savage european knights who wrongly thought that they were doing God's work some 900 years ago (btw they butchered "my kind" to,not only muslims and jews) than you are in for a surprise,i'm afraid a bloody one.

 

[Archdemon]

dumb man the personality of sheikh ahmed is positive,,,,cant you see piety and principles on his face??

personality of peres is negative and repulsive.....cant you see curse and uncertainity and negativeness and fraud and deception on his face?

a student in examination hall,,,,,,,,when he is failing you see uncertainity and fear on his face.......if he is looking unpleasant in the examination hall cause he is failing....why will he look pleasant then on the day the result is announced?

same way..peres has a horrid and unpleasant appearance in this worldly life........what makes you think he will have a pleasant appearance in the life here after?


moshe you though that by buying media and traitors you will succeed in your plan......you thought you will do all the third class stuff behind doors and then in public and society you will live as an honest man and a man of principles and people will take you for a pious man and a man on the straight path......but you forgot that that all the fraud and third-class stuff you do end ups on your face....

Oh wow, you are one dumb, beyond cognitive science dumb and i dont have to look at your ugly face to conclude that.

 

[PeaceGen]

The muslims in this thread have really pissed me off this time...

Have a look at Muslim conquests - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and see that much of what are now muslim lands were conquered by muslim forces, including your dear Prophet (who led a morally questionable life if you ask me). And I also recommend you review https://www.google.nl/search?q=muslim+historical+atrocities before demonizing other cultures for defending themselves from muslim aggression. Last but certainly not least, review https://www.google.nl/search?q=muslims+want+conquer+world to see video evidence of muslim clerics advocating islam be forced upon the rest of the world. If you muslim Fs here are so much for the self-determination of Palestinians, then I expect you all to renounce your dear clerics' plans for world-domination of Islam.

 

[Archdemon]

Yes it's stolen, you are thieves

Occupiers, usurpers

Millions of non middle eastern Jews turning up in the middle east declaring a state on the lands of people already living there

Now that's just unacceptable colonialism

Fleeing from a war and killing dosent mean the Jews can steal your land and homes and make you into a refugee

You living in UK is unacceptable.

 

[turbo charged]

Oh wow, you are one dumb, beyond cognitive science dumb and i dont have to look at your ugly face to conclude that.

who cares what you say..world knows that your lot habitually lies..i have already made my point pretty well......probably the reason why you feel so hurt and posted a one liner just to save some dignity.....you do realize moshe that by posting a one liner you have turned out a bigger idiot

"I can't stand him. He's a liar," Sarkozy said of Netanyahu

Nicolas Sarkozy called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a 'liar' to Obama | Mail Online


did ben gurion not tell you to stay away from PDF,moshe?

 

[420canada]

isreal should give back the occupied teritories back,1947 style as it was. if they really would haha. no forreal

 

[liontk]

I personally find hypocrisy on both sides, @Solomon2 while you profess for there to be peace in the region, recently the VICE folks went down to west bank and personally I do not find the mentality of settlers to be any different as far as orthodox jews and the local Palestinians are concerned. Also before you rush to call me anti Semite, I will let you know that I whole-heartily believe in the state of Israel however I cannot blindly give a clean slate to a state that allows it's fringe citizens to occupy land similar to mafia. Again I know the state of Israel demolishes these illegal settlements from time to time but don't you think that by not freezing the settlement, this will be detrimental to the long term peace process. Once again I do not think the Palestinians are angels either and in the past I refuse to accept their claim for a state but as time passes, i feel that Israel is losing it's allies in the west with these illegal settlements and I really dont care if someone calls me an anti-semite because neither side is right let alone Israel being angels. It is better that the border revert to the 1967 lines though with these settlers and the constant Hamas threat(terrorist), there is likely that by the end of decade the west bank territory will likely shrink with illegal settlements, this is what I call hypocrisy so please don't make Israel angel either and call spade a spade even if it is bothersome at times.

Also keep in mind that I am only pointing out my criticism towards the far right orthodox faction of Nethanyu government as I know secular israelis a la tel aviv are very open minded and in fact want the peace process to happen via the 1967 border, which i really appreciate and their fondness to western ideals and that ironically is very rare in middle east.

 

[Mercenary]

Here is how you achieve peace:

1 - Israel gets out the West Bank, keeps big settlement blocks and the size of the territory annexed by Israel in West Bank is given to Palestinians from Israel.
2 - Israel dismantles all the other settlement blocks
3 - Jerusalem remains in Israeli control but Palestinians allowed access to worship and pray at the religious sites.
4 - Palestinian refugees settle in West Bank and Gaza Strip.
5 - Israel builds a tunnel between Gaza and West Bank to allow trade and goods and people to flow between Gaza and West Bank.
6 - Israeli forces get out of West Bank and stop the blockade of Gaza and international forces take up that responsibility for 25 years until Palestinians take that responsibility over.

 

[liontk]

@420canada, Israel is here and it will exist though I do note the sarcasm in your response but what is wrong with the 1967 borderline as far as carving out the Palestinian state through dialogue/negotiation. Once again while I do not think there is a right side in this muddy situation, Israel has been our close ally since some time now and while I disagree with on some things, they are the only functioning democracy in middle east and we need to support them from their hostile neighbors.

 

[420canada]

@420canada, Israel is here and it will exist though I do note the sarcasm in your response but what is wrong with the 1967 borderline as far as carving out the Palestinian state through dialogue/negotiation. Once again while I do not think there is a right side in this muddy situation, Israel has been our close ally since some time now and while I disagree with on some things, they are the only functioning democracy in middle east and we need to support them from their hostile neighbors.

i will still be firm in this no matter how muddy it look, stop the blockade of gaza and return back the west bank to its original shape, other than that there can be no peace in between them. give what is rightfully theirs. and isreal canadas friend ......... there alot of people who would disagree. but if you look at it through a political stand point where buddies, pssssssshhhhhhh not to mention most jews here run the country so to speak.