'Third country's' Army could enter Kashmir on behalf of Pakistan: Chinese media

[A.Muqeet khan]

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...inese-media/articleshow/59517202.cms?from=mdr

 

[Kuru]

China should first construct a road on her own territory then think about entering India "on behalf of the third country." It's been more than 20 days they haven't been able to get Indian Army our of their territory. It's not funny anymore.

 

[Gurjot.S]

Who knows this 3rd country might be U.S ?

 

[Hulk]

These kind of comments simply proves one thing. All the preaching the Chinese use to offer Indians about we talk too much. Look who is talking daily. Their a$$ is on fire and totally lost their mind.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

These kind of comments simply proves one thing. All the preaching the Chinese use to offer Indians about we talk too much. Look who is talking daily. Their a$$ is on fire and totally lost their mind.

All of these stories are from the Indian media.

And yes, India has just set a precedent that will allow Pakistan to invite Chinese troops to any disputed region between India and Pakistan.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Chinese PLA are more then welcome to enter Indian occupied kashmir, a disputed territory on pretext of implementing UN resolution, protecting the civilian their while disarming Indian forces.

Many different permutations can be worked over.

 

[Unite & Defend]

China would destroy India within a short period. China don't want war, but if push comes to shove....

I wouldn't want Pakistan to go against China, ill tell you that.

 

[Etilla]

PLA troops to operate alongside Lashkars who attack in xinjiang

Strange

 

[YeBeWarned]

Nobody will Blame China now ..

 

[Jacob Martin]

All of these stories are from the Indian media.

And yes, India has just set a precedent that will allow Pakistan to invite Chinese troops to any disputed region between India and Pakistan.

Look, if Beijing has made giving India a bloody nose its primary objective, then that may well be the end result. I am not going to argue that India can withstand a Chinese onslaught in the Himalayas. I don't think we are prepared for that.

However, what will be the end result? Escalating the situation into all-out war is surely not on the Chinese menu - I don't see how your country would wish to jeopardize the economic development that you have worked so hard to achieve. You have more to loose than India does. And as far as limited conflict goes, let's say the Chinese Army is able to wipe the floor with the Indian military. What then?

Have you ever considered the logical extension of the current scenario that is playing out in South Asia? It is true that India has been greatly whittled and somewhat contained due to the relentless animosity of Pakistan. They have little to loose and India is indeed wary of them. What would China gain by ensuring that India collectively decides that seeking revenge for the bloody nose is the only project for the next 50 years?

Sure, you could argue that it would turn us into a semi-failed state like our Western neighbour. And you might be right about it as well. But the end result for you will not change. Your grand plans for replacing American hegemony will then have to pass through the animosity of 1.3 billion Indians, who as of today are oblivious to China's rise. And if our rise has been shackled due to the equation with Pakistan, imagine what will happen in your case.

Is the border issue really worth that much trouble?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Escalating the situation into all-out war is surely not on the Chinese menu -

War is not the goal, if war was the goal it would have started already. China just wants to do what it always does... build infrastructure.

Your grand plans for replacing American hegemony will then have to pass through the animosity of 1.3 billion Indians, who as of today are oblivious to China's rise.

There was never any plan to replace American hegemony, China's official and unofficial policy is to "Never seek hegemony".

And no country in their right mind would want the job of being the "global policeman", which essentially means spending your taxpayer money halfway across the world for causes you don't care about. Only to be hated by the people you are meant to be helping. Even America doesn't want that job anymore.

 

[Jacob Martin]

War is not the goal, if war was the goal it would have started already. China just wants to do what it always does... build infrastructure.

I already assumed that war was not on the menu. It would indeed be baffling if a nation so heavily invested in exuding a sense of quiet resolve we're to go berserk at the slightest hint of opposition. We should save that for nations who have little to loose.

As for building infrastructure, yes, that is obviously a Chinese prerogative to build whatever you wish on your side of the border. I am even in agreement that Indian concerns that it may have security implications for us be disregarded, but only if it is not on disputed territory. Since Bhutan claims the place through which the road will pass, it becomes a dispute. The same rules don't apply anymore. Then it is either talks, standoff or conflict. Talks are obviously the only credible idea.

There was never any plan to replace American hegemony, China's official and unofficial policy is to "Never seek hegemony".

And no country in their right mind would want the job of being the "global policeman", which essentially means spending your taxpayer money halfway across the world for causes you don't care about. Only to be hated by the people you are meant to be helping. Even America doesn't want that job anymore.

In that case, I must say, China's rise is more troublesome than not. You have been able to maintain a low profile only because the US has the de facto position of military policeman. If not, you would have to protect your commercial interests with military muscle. That is unavoidable. Do not assume you can have the cake and eat it too.

If you surpass the American economy and its global footprint of economic interests, military intervention will follow, like night follows day. In case you wish to not take up that role, that would be akin to taking the mantle of Imperialism without its reciprocal responsibilities. How does that work, apart from not being practically feasible?

Sure, America does exceed its immediate needs militarily but then a certain amount of imperial overstretch is understandable. China is already in a military impasse on one border without it even being in any way critical to your economic interests in any way. I assume there is a more pronounced streak of nationalism running through Chinese DNA than there is in that of the US.

Fact of the matter is, apart from the media and members on PDF, Indians are too insular to bother about the rise of China. That is a very big reason as to why the border infrastructure is neglected, because every government knows it will not get one vote by mentioning China. I am not saying that India's animosity will overturn your boat, but having a situation where China becomes to India what we are to Pakistan will surely not help. And all for what?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I am even in agreement that Indian concerns that it may have security implications for us be disregarded, but only if it is not on disputed territory. Since Bhutan claims the place through which the road will pass, it becomes a dispute. The same rules don't apply anymore. Then it is either talks, standoff or conflict. Talks are obviously the only credible idea.

Well that's the issue isn't it? From the Chinese perspective, it is not disputed territory. Just like from the Indian perspective, AP is not disputed territory, and they don't feel like they have to ask for anyone's permission to build there.

If you surpass the American economy and its global footprint of economic interests, military intervention will follow, like night follows day. In case you wish to not take up that role, that would be akin to taking the mantle of Imperialism without its reciprocal responsibilities. How does that work, apart from not being practically feasible?

Some foreign observers like to refer to China as a mercantilist power. And yes, mercantilism did lead to problems in the past, particularly that of imperialism and colonialist expansion, usually leading to warfare.

But that doesn't mean it will be the case for China, after all this is a different world now. And even if it did, at the end of the day, all countries will look after their own national interests first. That's just the nature of this human world, and I don't see China as being very much different from other powers that existed before. History goes in cycles, powers rise and fall.

 

[jetray]

Look who is talking daily. Their a$$ is on fire and totally lost their mind.

yup, only statements rather than actions says they are just painting themselves into a corner.

Chinese PLA are more then welcome to enter Indian occupied kashmir, a disputed territory on pretext of implementing UN resolution, protecting the civilian their while disarming Indian forces.

Many different permutations can be worked over.

oops what happened to macho army of pakistan that they need chinese help. well it will be just a case of blind leading the blind.
welcome to kashmir,no one is holding their breath it will end the same way as last 3 wars.
Need a free ticket to kargil?

 

[wiseone2]

Well that's the issue isn't it? From the Chinese perspective, it is not disputed territory. Just like from the Indian perspective, AP is not disputed territory, and they don't feel like they have to ask for anyone's permission to build there.



Some foreign observers like to refer to China as a mercantilist power. And yes, mercantilism did lead to problems in the past, particularly that of imperialism and colonialist expansion, usually leading to warfare.

But that doesn't mean it will be the case for China, after all this is a different world now. And even if it did, at the end of the day, all countries will look after their own national interests first. That's just the nature of this human world, and I don't see China as being very much different from other powers that existed before. History goes in cycles, powers rise and fall.

it is not so much china cannot intervene. it needs to choose carefully where to intervene