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Russia has given red-lines to NATO to exit even promising military action if they refused to exit from East Europe (Poland, Baltic states, Romania and Ukraine) basically all countries that joined NATO post-1997 including demands to not include Ukraine and this rejected by NATO who don't want to cede an inch to Russia.

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NATO rejects compromise with Russia on Ukraine’s membership prospects
Jens Stoltenberg says alliance stands with ‘Ukraine’s right to choose its own path’
|21.12.2021

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NATO rejected a compromise with Russia on Tuesday concerning Ukraine’s membership prospects.

In a joint news conference following his meeting with Romanian Prime Minister Nicolae Ciuca, NATO General-Secretary Jens Stoltenberg responded to the latest Russian security proposal in return for a guarantee that the alliance will not accept Ukraine as a member.

Underlining the consensus among NATO members with regards to Russia, he asserted the alliance is ready for a meaningful dialogue.

But Stoltenberg noted that any talks would need to be based on the core principles of European security and it would need to take place in consultation with NATO's European partners, including Ukraine.

He reiterated the alliance’s position regarding the escalation of a Russian military build-up around its border with Ukraine.

“We have made clear that any further aggression against Ukraine would carry a very high price,” said Stoltenberg. “We will also continue to support our close partner Ukraine, politically and practically. And we stand up for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine and we stand also for Ukraine’s right to choose its own path.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin, last month urged NATO to start talks to provide Russia with reliable, legally binding and long-term security guarantees.

On Dec. 15, Yury Ushakov, presidential adviser on foreign policy issues, announced Russia handed a draft of its proposals to the US and NATO, and two days later the Russian Foreign Ministry published the text of the draft agreements, suggested by Russia.

In its proposal on security guarantees presented to the US and NATO, Moscow sought pledges from Washington and its allies that NATO would abandon its eastward expansion as well as the admission of former Soviet countries into the organization.

Russia also demanded that the US not establish military bases in countries of the former Soviet Union, non-NATO countries as well as not cooperate with these countries.

In 2014, Russia began to support separatist forces in eastern Ukraine against the central government, a policy that it has maintained for the past seven years.

For the second time this year, Moscow concentrated significant military troops in and around Ukraine.

 
So western countries are not sending troops to ukrain but is not backing off? I guess they want Russia to take Ukraine.
 
If they were to move back to the post-1997 including Ukraine omission would be humiliating stragetic defeat for them..
 
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So western countries are not sending troops to ukrain but is not backing off? I guess they want Russia to take Ukraine.

I think Russia might actully proceed with the Invasion late January because they seem like hell-bent on this
 
I think Russia might actully proceed with the Invasion late January because they seem like hell-bent on this

This is increasingly become the preferred option for Russia but Ukraine will not go down easily but will swing for the fences
 
This is increasingly become the preferred option for Russia but Ukraine will not go down easily but will swing for the fences

Russia is the favourite here.. Just wait until Aziqbal comes online he will bring up the UK
 
Putin says Russia has 'nowhere to retreat' over Ukraine
 
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