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A COUPLE of Western diplomats from Islamabad were in Delhi the other day to probe the prospects of improving India-Pakistan ties, and to find out what if anything the media on both sides could do to bring the countries closer.

I described a bleak picture taking shape. What would you do, I asked, if Pakistan gets to be ruled by the Taliban, through a perfectly democratic process — as the one that ushered in the Nazis in Germany — and India gets a Hindu variant of the zealotry in the form of Narendra Modi, also by the ballot.

The world at large is rightly fearful of Taliban-like fanatics getting hold of Pakistan’s nuclear assets. The same analysts, however, have not paid heed to the possibility of a nuclear nightmare in Delhi should a right-wing Hindutva regime take charge next month. In my view, the adventurist quotient in the latter scenario is no less disturbing than the palpable terror of bigots taking over Pakistan.

Hindu fanatics have gained in strength exponentially from the murder of Mahatma Gandhi in 1948, which they plotted, to the bombing of the Samjhauta Express in 2007. Their link with the Gujarat pogrom of 2002 and the massacre of Sikhs in 1984 is well documented. The same people burned Australian missionary Graham Staines and his two sons alive in a jeep in 1999. He had apparently irked Hindutva fanatics with his Christian missionary activity in a remote village in Orissa.

Yes, it is all too well known that Ziaul Haq was the one who injected narrow religion into the professional armed forces in Pakistan. That such a possibility exists in India has become clear in the run-up to the current general elections.

A former interior secretary and a former army chief, both instrumental in subverting peace talks with Pakistan (and perhaps China) during the relatively agreeable administration of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, are Modi’s ace candidates in the parliamentary race. It is anyone’s guess how deeply and firmly the Hindutva worldview is rooted in the bureaucracy and in the armed forces.

Allow me to surmise Modi’s mindset about nuclear weapons. He is, after all, a staunch member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, and the RSS view about India’s nuclear prowess was stated in an (underreported) interview given by a former RSS chief in the wake of the Mumbai terror nightmare of 2008.

Hindutva chief K.S. Sudarshan was asked if India should go to war with Pakistan over the Mumbai carnage. He said war should be the last option because it would not stop there. That was comforting. But, he added, when aasuri (evil) powers start dominating the planet there is no other way but war. You will notice little or no difference between the Semitic view of the end of the world and Hindutva’s faith in the Armageddon.

“It will be nuclear war and a large number of people will … [perish]. In fact, not me but many people around the world have expressed their apprehension that this terrorism may ultimately result in a third world war. And this will be a nuclear war in which many of us are going to be finished.

“But according to me, as of now, it is very necessary to defeat the demons and there is no other way. And let me say with confidence that after this destruction, a new world will emerge which will be very good, free from evil and terrorism.”

The remarks by Sudarshan, who died in September 2012, echoed what Modi had himself said in a TV interview at the time of the attack. He mocked the Congress government as being weak before Pakistan-based terrorists. And he was, of course, for teaching Pakistan a lesson whatever the cost. “I would do with them what I did in Gujarat,” he hissed to an applauding live audience.

It is generally claimed that hardliners soften their position as they move from the opposition to join or lead governments. This didn’t seem to be the case with Atal Behari Vajpayee. The former Hindutva prime minister’s fire and brimstone response to a botched terror attack on parliament in December 2001 led to a scary nuclear stand-off with Pakistan, and a costly mobilisation of troops. Without a bullet being fired Indian landmines killed Indian soldiers.

India’s elections had not even begun when the hawks on TV and their self-styled analysts handed Modi an outright victory. Raghav Bahl, whose troubled TV empire was apparently bailed out by Modi ally Mukesh Ambani, was holding court. He runs Think India, a right-wing lobby. On this occasion he could barely hide his glee at India’s rightward lurch.

Joining the discussion were three well-known former diplomats. There was consensus that India had been too timid in dealing with China and Pakistan. In the case of Pakistan, which one of the diplomats described as a goon of China, it had to be taught a lesson immediately. I wouldn’t be surprised if a terrorist planning to stir trouble between the two countries was drooling at the sight.

With regard to China, India needs to use the Tibet card, whatever that means.

That was the consensus. Never mind the potholes that stalk travellers between Indian towns and cities, but the border road to Tibet had to be immediately built for the military, preferably by inviting private capital. Keep thy fingers crossed, ye diplomats in Islamabad.

The other Taliban - DAWN.COM
 
The one who wrote this article is a hell of an idiot.
1984 riots is a handiwork of Congress .Not BJP.
Modi will tougher towards Pakistan and China.But only through calculated move.Those who did tricks during Manmohan Singh ,must stay away from that after next government form.Because Modi is not the Singh.
 
I described a bleak picture taking shape. What would you do, I asked, if Pakistan gets to be ruled by the Taliban, through a perfectly democratic process — as the one that ushered in the Nazis in Germany — and India gets a Hindu variant of the zealotry in the form of Narendra Modi, also by the ballot.
This is absolutely outlandish! All smoke and mirrors. The odds for Martians to take over both India and Pakistan are more favourable!! :cheesy:
 
The writer forgets that India got Nukes under a BJP govt and also fought a war with Pakistan without escalation to nuclear conflict.

It was a Vajpayee led BJP govt that tried peace with Pakistan.

The message is simple if you want peace we will be peaceful but if you do terrorism be prepared for a bloody nose.
 

Javed naqvi of dawn.com is just printed version of zaid zaman hamid,same hysteria same lies and out of context fear mongering .
 
It is odd that while on this thread the writer is being derided for some unlikely Hindutiva takeover, there is active support for it in other places within the social media. Almost as if the Indian Nation itself is walking into the baptism of severe communal divide while feigning any impression it is doing so. Seems a much more dangerous precedent to be doing something and yet not recognize it for what it is rather than knowing what you are walking into.
 
A COUPLE of Western diplomats from Islamabad were in Delhi the other day to probe the prospects of improving India-Pakistan ties, and to find out what if anything the media on both sides could do to bring the countries closer.

I described a bleak picture taking shape. What would you do, I asked, if Pakistan gets to be ruled by the Taliban, through a perfectly democratic process — as the one that ushered in the Nazis in Germany — and India gets a Hindu variant of the zealotry in the form of Narendra Modi, also by the ballot.

The world at large is rightly fearful of Taliban-like fanatics getting hold of Pakistan’s nuclear assets. The same analysts, however, have not paid heed to the possibility of a nuclear nightmare in Delhi should a right-wing Hindutva regime take charge next month. In my view, the adventurist quotient in the latter scenario is no less disturbing than the palpable terror of bigots taking over Pakistan.

Hindu fanatics have gained in strength exponentially from the murder of Mahatma Gandhi in 1948, which they plotted, to the bombing of the Samjhauta Express in 2007. Their link with the Gujarat pogrom of 2002 and the massacre of Sikhs in 1984 is well documented. The same people burned Australian missionary Graham Staines and his two sons alive in a jeep in 1999. He had apparently irked Hindutva fanatics with his Christian missionary activity in a remote village in Orissa.

Yes, it is all too well known that Ziaul Haq was the one who injected narrow religion into the professional armed forces in Pakistan. That such a possibility exists in India has become clear in the run-up to the current general elections.

A former interior secretary and a former army chief, both instrumental in subverting peace talks with Pakistan (and perhaps China) during the relatively agreeable administration of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, are Modi’s ace candidates in the parliamentary race. It is anyone’s guess how deeply and firmly the Hindutva worldview is rooted in the bureaucracy and in the armed forces.

Allow me to surmise Modi’s mindset about nuclear weapons. He is, after all, a staunch member of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, and the RSS view about India’s nuclear prowess was stated in an (underreported) interview given by a former RSS chief in the wake of the Mumbai terror nightmare of 2008.

Hindutva chief K.S. Sudarshan was asked if India should go to war with Pakistan over the Mumbai carnage. He said war should be the last option because it would not stop there. That was comforting. But, he added, when aasuri (evil) powers start dominating the planet there is no other way but war. You will notice little or no difference between the Semitic view of the end of the world and Hindutva’s faith in the Armageddon.

“It will be nuclear war and a large number of people will … [perish]. In fact, not me but many people around the world have expressed their apprehension that this terrorism may ultimately result in a third world war. And this will be a nuclear war in which many of us are going to be finished.

“But according to me, as of now, it is very necessary to defeat the demons and there is no other way. And let me say with confidence that after this destruction, a new world will emerge which will be very good, free from evil and terrorism.”

The remarks by Sudarshan, who died in September 2012, echoed what Modi had himself said in a TV interview at the time of the attack. He mocked the Congress government as being weak before Pakistan-based terrorists. And he was, of course, for teaching Pakistan a lesson whatever the cost. “I would do with them what I did in Gujarat,” he hissed to an applauding live audience.

It is generally claimed that hardliners soften their position as they move from the opposition to join or lead governments. This didn’t seem to be the case with Atal Behari Vajpayee. The former Hindutva prime minister’s fire and brimstone response to a botched terror attack on parliament in December 2001 led to a scary nuclear stand-off with Pakistan, and a costly mobilisation of troops. Without a bullet being fired Indian landmines killed Indian soldiers.

India’s elections had not even begun when the hawks on TV and their self-styled analysts handed Modi an outright victory. Raghav Bahl, whose troubled TV empire was apparently bailed out by Modi ally Mukesh Ambani, was holding court. He runs Think India, a right-wing lobby. On this occasion he could barely hide his glee at India’s rightward lurch.

Joining the discussion were three well-known former diplomats. There was consensus that India had been too timid in dealing with China and Pakistan. In the case of Pakistan, which one of the diplomats described as a goon of China, it had to be taught a lesson immediately. I wouldn’t be surprised if a terrorist planning to stir trouble between the two countries was drooling at the sight.

With regard to China, India needs to use the Tibet card, whatever that means.

That was the consensus. Never mind the potholes that stalk travellers between Indian towns and cities, but the border road to Tibet had to be immediately built for the military, preferably by inviting private capital. Keep thy fingers crossed, ye diplomats in Islamabad.

The other Taliban - DAWN.COM

At a recent briefing for Parliamentarians in Islamabad, there were fond references to the "political legacy" of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), particularly former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee and his trip to Lahore by bus in 1999. India's election is being keenly watched in Pakistan and a number of issues are in abeyance till a new Prime Minister takes over. The official line is that Pakistan respects any democratic outcome and Prime Minister Muhammed Nawaz Sharif has maintained that he is an advocate of peace with India whoever comes to power. There seems to be keenness on the resumption of the composite dialogue and some progress on Kashmir too.

The popular sentiment is that the Congress hasn't done much for Indo- Pak peace and it is the BJP which has moved things forward in the past. Once again Pakistan is looking to the party for some initiatives though there is more than a tinge of apprehension. Already there are disquieting pronouncements from the BJP. Pakistanis are wont to say that while their election campaign last year steered clear of India bashing, the same is not the case across the border. Well, Modi is no Vajpayee and there is the dark shadow of the Gujarat post Godhra violence over him.

Mariana Babar, diplomatic correspondent for The News says, "I know and am familiar with the BJP style of governance in New Delhi. I do not know Modi. When last in government the BJP was serious and exhibited political will to improve relations with Pakistan. This was reversed when the highly controversial and unacceptable Kargil operation took place by Pervez Musharraf, who is today facing treason charges in Pakistan. If the BJP comes to power again, it will not be Modi alone but the BJP government that Pakistan will be dealing with. Modi himself remains unpredictable as prime minister, but what is a given is that as he seeks greater economic development for India, Pakistan is one country he cannot easily ignore."

Going by Modi's much publicized performance as chief minister Gujarat, Pakistanis are hopeful that he would stress on issues of governance, economy and trade. However, human rights campaigner and lawyer Asma Jahangir warns of more hawkish behaviour from both sides. "Whether BJP comes to power or the Congress, it will make very little difference to Pakistan India relationship. However, if the BJP or any other party is led by a person like Modi who symbolizes intolerance and some would say extreme intolerance towards religious minorities, it would first undermine India's democratic credentials. Secondly, it will give a disappointing message to Pakistani and Bangladeshi liberal or progressive minded people. It will become a further tool in the hands of hawks to deepen mistrust between the two countries and its people.It will be very difficult for any Pakistan PM to trust Modi or to be in close engagement with him."

Others like Sherry Rehman, President of the Jinnah Institute, a think tank, and former US ambassador find it simplistic to hope the BJP can take things forward. "The received wisdom is that the Congress was a victim of its own liberal drift, and that perhaps the Right can go forward as Vajpayee did, but I find this political construct too simplistic. I do worry about state responses in a bilateral crisis:will a Rightist leader be able to show restraint? Will their rhetoric ramp up the blood-pumping chauvinism that we have walked away from in mainstream Pakistan? So yes, that is a worry," she says.

She points out that Pakistanis by and large look to dialogue and peace with India. "Pakistanis no longer cite India in election call-outs as a means to rally votes. But in India we see Modi using Pakistan as stick to beat opponents. Let's hope that changes. Whatever the election outcome, there is a clear swing to the right, and that is always worrying for countries that lurch from crisis to crisis. We seriously need more sophisticated diplomacy between India and Pakistan. I doubt if that is likely in the near future, irrespective of who rules New Delhi, but momentum on talks must resume, with at east one or two tangible gains to show to the people of both countries," she adds.

Asad Umar, Member of the National Assembly from Pakistan Tehreek e Insaf (PTI) says a number of Pakistanis are a bit concerned in terms of the policy Modi would adopt but India is a mature democracy and nothing drastic can happen. There are concerns also on the bilateral dialogue on trade and other issues."Will there be another ice age in our relations?" he wonders. The BJP is looked on favorably for Vajpayee's efforts and the near breakthrough in 1999. It is difficult to predict how Modi will approach matters though there is a belief that hardliners can carry it off rather than a soft Congress, he adds.

While there are concerns over the violence in Gujarat, Mr. Umar feels that India's mature democratic system does not allow for much leeway in policy. One leader cannot bring about a change, a drastic one at that, he feels.

Pakistan has just heaved a sigh of relief over the completion of the polls in Afghanistan and will have to wait till April 24 for a new leader there. A month later India too will have a new Parliament in place. With a change in leadership and policy, Pakistan is faced with the daunting task of dealing with two new governments in its troubled neighbourhood with whom its relations are far from ideal. Though little is said, a lot is expected of the new Indian government, and ensuring peace in the subcontinent is not the least of them.
 

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