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The focus should remain on what would be the best for Pakistan.............By Tariq Khan

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As Received.........

I have often been accused of promoting military rule in Pakistan and that I am recognised favouring military dictators over democratic governments. I appear overly critical of politicians while reflecting a benign tolerance towards the shortcomings of the military. I am compelled to clarify my position on the matter but first, this matter should not become a debate on which is a better form of governance, civilian or military. The focus should remain on what would be the best for Pakistan and if in that, it is envisaged, that the military in general and the army in particular should be disbanded in the interest of the country, I would stand in favour of national interest.
There was never a question of relative piety where military personnel are morally or intellectually superior to their civilian counterparts. The military has its share of dubious characters and are of the same stock as anyone else in Pakistan and as such any comparison between segments of societies, communities or individuals is not only meaningless but simply wrong. Having said this, I would still begin my argument with what I have always said and at the cost of repetition, and a whole lot of repetition, that the Army is the only institution that remains functional as an institution, is cohesive and is a product of systems, procedures, rules and regulations. This is not said to demean any other institution or to down play their role in governing the country but to simply state that most of these institutions simply exist to go through the motions and that they have collapsed as institutions. This is not their fault and I am convinced that they are a victim of government sponsored nepotism, parochialism and violation of merit.

Whereas I agree, that the army having ruled the country shares the blame for the collapse of these institutions and is partially responsible for the state we are presently in, but it is generally on account of bad choices, poor decisions and skewed policies forwarded by individuals and not because of bad institutional practices. So what makes the army different in relative terms in Pakistan is that its institutional procedures limit individual greed and corruption that elsewhere go unrestrained due to institutional collapse and lack of cohesive capacity to reign in the corrupt. There is no institution holier than the other and the national malaise of corruption must be viewed in relative terms with the army the least corrupt amongst the corrupt, so far. This could change in the future as the Army is slowly politicised, reformed and influenced. But at the moment, almost all other institutions are non functional: a dysfunctional judiciary, a politicised police, a compromised NAB, a sold out NADRA, an indifferent Election Commission.
To make matters worse the Mullahs have now license to influence and dictate our foreign and domestic policies because the constitution allows them to do so. The government whether of the civilians for 36 years or the army for 33 years, are both responsible for this state of affairs and there is no debate on this matter. However, the aberration brought about by military rule can easily be corrected through constitutional amendments but no civil government has found it within themselves to reverse any of General Zia’s pearls of wisdom. Thus there appears to be a tacit approval of the policies in the past except for the 18th amendment.
Performance of military and civil governments can be debated till the cows come home but if there is any measure to compare them for intent at least, if not capability, it would be recognised in the local bodies. The military has always held such elections whereas no civil government has ever done so voluntarily. The present government has reluctantly held them under a Supreme Court ruling on the subject. Of course no meaningful funds were transferred. Civilian governments have always given development funds to the Members of Parliament in total violation of the so called sacred constitution, thus confusing legislation with development. The distribution of funds has quickly turned into a persuasive tool or then a coercive one, in the hands of the ruling party. The constitution is violated daily in terms of crossing defined red lines related to external and internal debt as well as ignoring the pre-requisites to even qualify to stand for elections. Tax is raised on the people but politicians do not contribute towards any such revenue. Legislation is passed that is damaging to the country for instance the reversion of A areas back to B in Baluchistan or reversing the need for an educational degree needed to be a legislator and as late as only yesterday, the money bill that makes off-shore financial dealing not only kosher but exempts those practicing it even in the past. The parliament is conspicuous in its silence as the constitution is raped before their eyes.

This now brings me to the question of competence and capacity; the common argument given is that military men don't know how to govern states, or worse still: wars are too complicated to allow generals to run them. Here are some statistics which contradict such views: Out of the 44 US presidents, 33 held a military position. Of these Dwight Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman were the most famous in modern times As a fledging new state, the United States, entrusted the establishment of the country and its democracy to George Washington, Andrew Jackson, James Monroe, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor etc. All of whom had only military experience. History is filled with examples of Sun Tzu, Alexander, Babar, Akbar who were military leaders first but good rulers as well. The list is long and includes Napoleon Bonaparte, Miguel Hidalgo, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Vo Nguyen Giap, Fidel Castro etc.
On the other hand, military contributions to life and living by its contributions to medicine, research on infectious diseases and human psychology, logistics, transportation and man-management cannot be simply wished away regardless of how averse one is to the military. The Fortune published the PEW survey of 2013 where it was analysed and declared that the military contributed to civil society more than any other profession. One cannot ignore military contributions to engineering or science and technology.
In our own case, our military has been recognised for organising one of the most efficient disaster management systems in the earthquake of 2008. The Army managed the flood relief of 2010 as it always has in the past. It conducts elections, de-silting of water channels and consensus. Currently it is undertaking policing operations in support of internal security. Thus with so much evidence on record, to proffer a sweeping statement that military leaders do not have the capacity to govern nations is neither supported by facts or figures but to quite an extent is downright unfair.
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> Whereas one may very well argue that ‘our’ military leaders have botched it up when given a chance or having taken the opportunity; yet the fact is that they did govern as they wanted to in line with their political and ideological vision or whatever it was. It is not the capacity which should be questioned but the vision which has so damaged us.The debate evolves around an individual with his own ideas and not the capacity of the institution. After all, when this institution functions for the state in every other matter of governance or administrative matter, why does one feel that it lacks capacity. Yet in no way am I suggesting a military rule and once again at the pain of repetition, here is what I am recommending:
- the removal of this government,
- establishing a national government,
- rewriting the constitution,
- reforming the judiciary,
- depoliticising the police
and
- containing the mullah.

Civilian or military, these are people of the same values and similar backgrounds, the former with an open opportunity and the latter with a restricted one. However some fallacies that needed to be addressed were related to the capacity of military personal to rule and govern. I do agree that the biggest aberration is to have the military takeover the country but, at times, it is necessary yet such takeovers should not lead to military rule but to corrective reforms only; our biggest mistake.
None of the Asian Tigers were a product of democracy as much as of authoritarian rule; Lee Kwon Yew, Suharto, Mahathir, first created the environment for democracy before they were truly democratic.

I am suggesting that we put into place a ‘civilian’, government comprising men and women of capacity, honour and dignity; surely in a population of 200 million there are such people who exist.
I am suggesting that we must find a way to do this to right the wrong that has been done to this country.
I am suggesting that this be done any way possible and if it is the military that has to do it because as usual in this country, everybody and everyone else, is dysfunctional, then so be it.
The bottom line is that we are in trouble in more ways than one, and democracy, the constitution and politicians as they stand today, are part of the problem and cannot be part of the solution.

@WebMaster @Rashid Mahmood @Spring Onion @fatman17 @Irfan Baloch @air marshal @F.O.X
 
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Deja vu - all over again. Haven't we tried these "recommendations" a few times already? How did all that work out for Pakistan?
 
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Deja vu - all over again. Haven't we tried these "recommendations" a few times already? How did all that work out for Pakistan?

There is some merit in these suggestions.

Best solution would be the middle way - have guys like Raheel Sharif float a new merit based party and stand for elections.

OP Forgets that in the US example quoted, the men with military background stood for elections and did not subvert the process, I wonder why Musharaff, Ayub Khan, Yahya, Zia etc never bothered to do so.

Democracy has to be nurtured and cherished but in Pakistan it's guardians often become it's slayers.
 
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- the removal of this government,
- establishing a national government,
- rewriting the constitution,
- reforming the judiciary,
- depoliticising the police
and
- containing the mullah.

- the removal of this government: Why do we need to remove the government? Will the new government be any better (Unless you want the Army to takeover which I don't agree with)? I cannot blame a few hundred people for the sins of an entire nation. Civil servants make the backbone of the nation and you know the state of these highly educated, incompetent and lacking a grain of ethics in them.
- establishing a national government: Are you referring to local body elections and devolution of power? if so this can be done through current government by pressure tactics.
- rewriting the constitution: This I will agree 100% but do we have the mental capacity to do so? If so who will take the initiative? Wouldn't the new constitution have built in loopholes for the people in power (ability to bend it where it suits them?).
- reforming the judiciary: I have been drumming about this for a very long time now. But how do you replace the system and empower it? This is linked to your next point "depoliticising the police". So these two will go hand in hand. You cannot fix one without the other.... Any suggestions how to go about reforming these two?
- containing the mullah: There is no quick fix for this. This has been ingrained into a generation and their influence will not diminish for another generation (I may be generous here for the timeline). Education may erode their influence but it will take a long time.

The above points are all good but what practical work are we willing to do..... Discussions are good but do we have volunteers who will become the change rather than talk about it?
 
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- establishing a national government: Are you referring to local body elections and devolution of power? if so this can be done through current government by pressure tactics.
This article is not by me.
who will put pressure? Are they submitting 100% to the current pressure?

- the removal of this government: Why do we need to remove the government? Will the new government be any better (Unless you want the Army to takeover which I don't agree with)? I cannot blame a few hundred people for the sins of an entire nation. Civil servants make the backbone of the nation and you know the state of these highly educated, incompetent and lacking a grain of ethics in them.
Agreed Army take over should not be there.
But do you think self servicing civil servants including judiciary, bureaucracy or police can do it?


- rewriting the constitution: This I will agree 100% but do we have the mental capacity to do so? If so who will take the initiative? Wouldn't the new constitution have built in loopholes for the people in power (ability to bend it where it suits them?).
If we had the brains earlier and if we can give our brains to the western world for better living conditions, we definitely have it now. But with current politicians in place it will not happen. To re-write the constitution authors will have to put service before self, which current bureaucrats are not ready to do. People will have to sacrifice their own comfort, privileges and under cuts to do that.

- reforming the judiciary: I have been drumming about this for a very long time now. But how do you replace the system and empower it? This is linked to your next point "depoliticising the police". So these two will go hand in hand. You cannot fix one without the other.... Any suggestions how to go about reforming these two?

You tell how it can be done with current setup?
four outsiders had the chance but during the course, were hijacked by the same politicians.

The above points are all good but what practical work are we willing to do..... Discussions are good but do we have volunteers who will become the change rather than talk about it?

i suppose you and me cannot make a change, we can just voice our concerns. It has to be man with authority to change the course. Person who can commandeer the vessel with sufficient manpower and equipment. Now you can suggest what are the options available.
 
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This article is not by me.
who will put pressure? Are they submitting 100% to the current pressure?
Apology totally overlooked it.
It was suggested in the article to bring Army rule. So I was questioning if Army can use pressure tactics to allow for incremental changes to the system rather than an abrupt change. Change the mindset of people slowly and probably it will dilute their influence over time. Even in western countries devolution of power to local bodies happened over a long time.

But do you think self servicing civil servants including judiciary, bureaucracy or police can do it?
A big NO.

If we had the brains earlier and if we can give our brains to the western world for better living conditions, we definitely have it now. But with current politicians in place it will not happen. To re-write the constitution authors will have to put service before self, which current bureaucrats are not ready to do. People will have to sacrifice their own comfort, privileges and under cuts to do that.
Agree.

You tell how it can be done with current setup?
four outsiders had the chance but during the course, were hijacked by the same politicians
Which four outsiders you referring to?
I think before we can even get to the point where reforms can happen we need a clean system to select these civil servants on merit. Educated and not based on their family contacts.....
An example: The motorway and NH patrolling police is fairly good (as far as I have seen). People driving on dual carriageway as well as on motorway adhere to good driving(seatbelts, indicators etc) If I am not mistaken this police was introduced very recently (5-10 years?). Maybe they get good wages so they are not easily bribable?
If we are to replace the current unprofessional police personnel then maybe we need to train them better and give them good wages. There should be accountability as without it people stray from the right path. Same will need to be applied to Judiciary. What are your views and thinking?

i suppose you and me cannot make a change, we can just voice our concerns. It has to be man with authority to change the course. Person who can commandeer the vessel with sufficient manpower and equipment. Now you can suggest what are the options available
I normally suggest education but that is the long term solution and even that cannot happen if today's leaders are not sincere to the nation. UK spends over £90 billion on education and Pakistan doesn't even spend £1 billion. Sometimes there are no options available and one has to create opportunities.
 
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Which four outsiders you referring to?
I think before we can even get to the point where reforms can happen we need a clean system to select these civil servants on merit. Educated and not based on their family contacts.....
An example: The motorway and NH patrolling police is fairly good (as far as I have seen). People driving on dual carriageway as well as on motorway adhere to good driving(seatbelts, indicators etc) If I am not mistaken this police was introduced very recently (5-10 years?). Maybe they get good wages so they are not easily bribable?
If we are to replace the current unprofessional police personnel then maybe we need to train them better and give them good wages. There should be accountability as without it people stray from the right path. Same will need to be applied to Judiciary. What are your views and thinking?
Ayub, Yahya, Zia and Musharaf. Best chance was with Mush who missed it. Motorway police was mainly Mush doing. I feel Pervaiz Ilahi did keep a balance in eating up resources and spending it at appropriate places.

On a different note. If we will leave it to these politicians they would come up with amendments for no limit on holding PM and CM office. life time benefits for Senators, MNAs and MPAs. They will further spoil the systems by irrationally devolving power to provinces e.g. GST issue which is still unresolved between federation and provinces. In one province there is no GST at all and others are lingering between 13-16% federation standing at 17%. Creating issues of competitiveness and adjustment of input tax.

These politicians are very short sighted and are unable to look beyond their own interest. Bureaucracy busy in apple polishing and appeasement to get personal benefits. Even dedicated Police for traffic is busy making money and letting cities go into traffic menace.

My friend only a thorough DANDA can solve the problem. Democrazy wont as it can only take revenge.from people only.
 
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Best chance was with Mush who missed it.
I respect Mushi for the good work he did. And yes the opportunity was missed for correcting various ills in the system. But he had good 7 years! to make Judicial and Police reforms. If he had managed them then we would see a different Pakistan right now.

These politicians are very short sighted and are unable to look beyond their own interest.
Agree and that is true for most of the nation as well. There are very few people who think beyond their lives. The legacy of every generation so far.

My friend only a thorough DANDA can solve the problem. Democrazy wont as it can only take revenge.
Haha. DANDA is good but is not sustainable in the long run. The nation will need to be educated and softly its mentality need to be changed towards life and attitude towards work and ethics. Even though we call ourselves Islamic country but I feel we fail on all aspects of being Muslims.
 
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As Received.........

I have often been accused of promoting military rule in Pakistan and that I am recognised favouring military dictators over democratic governments. I appear overly critical of politicians while reflecting a benign tolerance towards the shortcomings of the military. I am compelled to clarify my position on the matter but first, this matter should not become a debate on which is a better form of governance, civilian or military. The focus should remain on what would be the best for Pakistan and if in that, it is envisaged, that the military in general and the army in particular should be disbanded in the interest of the country, I would stand in favour of national interest.
There was never a question of relative piety where military personnel are morally or intellectually superior to their civilian counterparts. The military has its share of dubious characters and are of the same stock as anyone else in Pakistan and as such any comparison between segments of societies, communities or individuals is not only meaningless but simply wrong. Having said this, I would still begin my argument with what I have always said and at the cost of repetition, and a whole lot of repetition, that the Army is the only institution that remains functional as an institution, is cohesive and is a product of systems, procedures, rules and regulations. This is not said to demean any other institution or to down play their role in governing the country but to simply state that most of these institutions simply exist to go through the motions and that they have collapsed as institutions. This is not their fault and I am convinced that they are a victim of government sponsored nepotism, parochialism and violation of merit.

Whereas I agree, that the army having ruled the country shares the blame for the collapse of these institutions and is partially responsible for the state we are presently in, but it is generally on account of bad choices, poor decisions and skewed policies forwarded by individuals and not because of bad institutional practices. So what makes the army different in relative terms in Pakistan is that its institutional procedures limit individual greed and corruption that elsewhere go unrestrained due to institutional collapse and lack of cohesive capacity to reign in the corrupt. There is no institution holier than the other and the national malaise of corruption must be viewed in relative terms with the army the least corrupt amongst the corrupt, so far. This could change in the future as the Army is slowly politicised, reformed and influenced. But at the moment, almost all other institutions are non functional: a dysfunctional judiciary, a politicised police, a compromised NAB, a sold out NADRA, an indifferent Election Commission.
To make matters worse the Mullahs have now license to influence and dictate our foreign and domestic policies because the constitution allows them to do so. The government whether of the civilians for 36 years or the army for 33 years, are both responsible for this state of affairs and there is no debate on this matter. However, the aberration brought about by military rule can easily be corrected through constitutional amendments but no civil government has found it within themselves to reverse any of General Zia’s pearls of wisdom. Thus there appears to be a tacit approval of the policies in the past except for the 18th amendment.
Performance of military and civil governments can be debated till the cows come home but if there is any measure to compare them for intent at least, if not capability, it would be recognised in the local bodies. The military has always held such elections whereas no civil government has ever done so voluntarily. The present government has reluctantly held them under a Supreme Court ruling on the subject. Of course no meaningful funds were transferred. Civilian governments have always given development funds to the Members of Parliament in total violation of the so called sacred constitution, thus confusing legislation with development. The distribution of funds has quickly turned into a persuasive tool or then a coercive one, in the hands of the ruling party. The constitution is violated daily in terms of crossing defined red lines related to external and internal debt as well as ignoring the pre-requisites to even qualify to stand for elections. Tax is raised on the people but politicians do not contribute towards any such revenue. Legislation is passed that is damaging to the country for instance the reversion of A areas back to B in Baluchistan or reversing the need for an educational degree needed to be a legislator and as late as only yesterday, the money bill that makes off-shore financial dealing not only kosher but exempts those practicing it even in the past. The parliament is conspicuous in its silence as the constitution is raped before their eyes.

This now brings me to the question of competence and capacity; the common argument given is that military men don't know how to govern states, or worse still: wars are too complicated to allow generals to run them. Here are some statistics which contradict such views: Out of the 44 US presidents, 33 held a military position. Of these Dwight Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman were the most famous in modern times As a fledging new state, the United States, entrusted the establishment of the country and its democracy to George Washington, Andrew Jackson, James Monroe, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor etc. All of whom had only military experience. History is filled with examples of Sun Tzu, Alexander, Babar, Akbar who were military leaders first but good rulers as well. The list is long and includes Napoleon Bonaparte, Miguel Hidalgo, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Vo Nguyen Giap, Fidel Castro etc.
On the other hand, military contributions to life and living by its contributions to medicine, research on infectious diseases and human psychology, logistics, transportation and man-management cannot be simply wished away regardless of how averse one is to the military. The Fortune published the PEW survey of 2013 where it was analysed and declared that the military contributed to civil society more than any other profession. One cannot ignore military contributions to engineering or science and technology.
In our own case, our military has been recognised for organising one of the most efficient disaster management systems in the earthquake of 2008. The Army managed the flood relief of 2010 as it always has in the past. It conducts elections, de-silting of water channels and consensus. Currently it is undertaking policing operations in support of internal security. Thus with so much evidence on record, to proffer a sweeping statement that military leaders do not have the capacity to govern nations is neither supported by facts or figures but to quite an extent is downright unfair.
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> Whereas one may very well argue that ‘our’ military leaders have botched it up when given a chance or having taken the opportunity; yet the fact is that they did govern as they wanted to in line with their political and ideological vision or whatever it was. It is not the capacity which should be questioned but the vision which has so damaged us.The debate evolves around an individual with his own ideas and not the capacity of the institution. After all, when this institution functions for the state in every other matter of governance or administrative matter, why does one feel that it lacks capacity. Yet in no way am I suggesting a military rule and once again at the pain of repetition, here is what I am recommending:
- the removal of this government,
- establishing a national government,
- rewriting the constitution,
- reforming the judiciary,
- depoliticising the police
and
- containing the mullah.

Civilian or military, these are people of the same values and similar backgrounds, the former with an open opportunity and the latter with a restricted one. However some fallacies that needed to be addressed were related to the capacity of military personal to rule and govern. I do agree that the biggest aberration is to have the military takeover the country but, at times, it is necessary yet such takeovers should not lead to military rule but to corrective reforms only; our biggest mistake.
None of the Asian Tigers were a product of democracy as much as of authoritarian rule; Lee Kwon Yew, Suharto, Mahathir, first created the environment for democracy before they were truly democratic.

I am suggesting that we put into place a ‘civilian’, government comprising men and women of capacity, honour and dignity; surely in a population of 200 million there are such people who exist.
I am suggesting that we must find a way to do this to right the wrong that has been done to this country.
I am suggesting that this be done any way possible and if it is the military that has to do it because as usual in this country, everybody and everyone else, is dysfunctional, then so be it.
The bottom line is that we are in trouble in more ways than one, and democracy, the constitution and politicians as they stand today, are part of the problem and cannot be part of the solution.

@WebMaster @Rashid Mahmood @Spring Onion @fatman17 @Irfan Baloch @air marshal @F.O.X

there is a lot of food for thought there and it requires some digestion. there are many omissions in the narrative, the most critical being educating the masses so that they can actually decide who should be our leaders. the good generals recommendations dosnt address this critical issue. abolition of the feudal system is another missing issue.
 
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there is a lot of food for thought there and it requires some digestion. there are many omissions in the narrative, the most critical being educating the masses so that they can actually decide who should be our leaders. the good generals recommendations dosnt address this critical issue. abolition of the feudal system is another missing issue.
I happen to know people who have actually lectured these politicians on good gobernance and what could steer the country in right direction but they prefer to sleep dying those sessions lol
 
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Civil servants
Key points to note which dont exist!
There is nothing civil nor servant - like behaviour or humbleness about current govt!

When the govt pays you a large check then gives you house with maids and cook, electricity, water, gas, car (gas for car) and driver all for free...you should be grateful but we see the opposite not just today yesterday ....its a classic case of taking for granted!

- the removal of this government,
- establishing a national government,
- rewriting the constitution,
- reforming the judiciary,
- depoliticising the police
and
- containing the mullah.
I would add reduce the facilities provided for each rank...So that only sincere people would go for the ranks not those who want to siphon everything to their offshore accounts!

I am suggesting that we put into place a ‘civilian’, government comprising men and women of capacity, honour and dignity; surely in a population of 200 million there are such people who exist.
If the wadera group who is hogging high positions and passing to their nephews and sons lets go or even allows change....
 
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Decay of Civilian Institutions have been a result of below average Human Resources,
operating these important Assets.

It is not matter of Civilian vs Military. The educated class of Pakistanis have moved abroad and are working in largest companies world wide. The Exodus of Pakistanis out of Pakistan has been due to two main reasons

1- Lack of Ample Jobs at government Levels
2- Lack of Jobs at Private Sector
3- Excessive reliance on Importing Items (Cars , Buses, Trucks, Electronics, Appliances)
4- Lack of Value of Political Degree in country, people become politicians by being born into Culture of wealth.

Immediate Solution to Crisis:

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What to do with Nawaz Sharif: (The main problem point for CRISIS)

  • Allowing Nawaz sharif to step down on his own term and safe passage to Nawaz Sharif to Saudia Arabia/UK/US. To retire
  • Let him step down under (National Progressive Initiative), and health reason
  • Exit Passage for Family Provided (Back Taxes are paid) , No involvement in politics for 30 years.
  • Action against people who ordered force against people Qadri's party, Apology from Government of Punjab to the people who lost their lives on 2014 and financial support to the families of people and apology.
  • Nawaz Sharif's family would pay a back dated fine (Maximum penalty by Law for 10 years) of incorrect filing , as determined by the Accountants, 10 Million Dollars
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  • PM Role : Mamnoon Hussain Acting Prime Minister
  • Pardon issued for Nawaz Sharif's family , only financial fine, prison term suspended by charity donation to Orphans.
  • Pardon issued for Musharaf Sahib
  • President: Invite Iftikhar Chudary for post of President (1 Year Term), Mr Iftikhar would ensure a proper hand over takes place after Election
Re-Evaluation of Punjab Police Force: (Re-Training for 1 year)
  • Put Punjab police back into Basic Training so they remember to serve the people
  • Identify Troops that are not fit for Police (Discharge)
  • Remove folks with low IQ from force
  • Send Police into Re-Training , Rangers Take over the streets
  • No Large Political Envoys 80% police for People not politicians

What to do with Imran Khan / Qadri:
  • Call for General Election 2017, in return for no Dharna and working with Pakistan Military for peace
  • Ask Imran Khan , to beef up security in KPK between 2016-2017 and focus on development
  • Ask Mr Qadri's supporters to help keep cities safe till 2017, and thank them for raising concern for Justice (Thank you)
  • Promiss of "Electronic Election in 2017"

What to do with Karachi:
  • Form a 5 Member Committee that Manages affairs of city (Civilian None Party Affiliates)
  • Shatter the Quota system
  • Appoint a care taker (Military), immediate effect to release $$ for Civilian Clean up projects and services [Emergency Basis]
  • Bring back Musharaf Sahib , make him the care taker of City should he wishes or appoint a care taker who ensures budget funds are reaching to right agencies
  • Request Kamal Mustafa otherwise to be care taker for 1 year as he has done it before

What to do with Sindh:
  • Keep things running as is
  • Rangers maintain control for security
  • Act against Corruption in province
Re-Evaluation of Sindh Police Force: (Re-Training for 1 year)
  • Put Sindh police back into Basic Training so they remember to serve the people
  • Identify Troops that are not fit for Police (Discharge)
  • Remove folks with low IQ from force
  • Send Police into Re-Training , Rangers Take over the streets which they have already
  • No Large Political Envoys 80% police for People not politicians

What to do with Baluchistan:
  • Development Full steam ahead
  • Counter Terrorism force to Keep eye on Indian Radio broadcast , scramble any broadcast frequency
  • Set up Task force to keep things quite


2017 Elections : Introduce Electrical Voting System

  • Electronic Voting System for Valid NADRA card holders
  • Allow valid Pakistani Citizens (World wide to vote)


Make it a goal that in 2017 , there would be Electronic Voting System (Anti Rigging), vote would be registered automatically on the Address on the NADRA card!!!

And the police force would be better trained with 1 year basic training (Punjab/Sindh)



 
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Ayub, Yahya, Zia and Musharaf. Best chance was with Mush who missed it. Motorway police was mainly Mush doing. I feel Pervaiz Ilahi did keep a balance in eating up resources and spending it at appropriate places..

You are right. Mushy had a lot of other chances he missed too. Because he was too busy bringing Indian actresses as the "State Guest of Pakistan" and drinking the "General's Juice" as his chef refers to it (its Whiskey, just so there is no confusion)!! He was also too busy to launder and defraud Pakistan's $ 200 million from the US aid. This money was used to buy mansions in Turkey, US and the UK for Mr. Mushy, and a few hotels in the US!! He was busy alright.

Then came Mr. Kiyani, and from just one deal from the DHA, he was able to do corruption worth well over 6 billion!! And when it leaked out, the Army covered his name, and his brother was asked to go to London and chill out for a year or so, till they put the blame on him.

So obviously. the miliary ain't no sane angels sitting there, they like the Green on a dollar just as much as the other guy. But per your suggestions, these guys might be angels in disguise (very corrupt angels at that with the examples I provided.

The true reality is, if today, a civilian government dint exist, Pakistan would've been gone through a bankruptcy!! Everyone around you from India, Afghanistan to Iran wants to break you, and here you are, somehow cheer leading for another military rule that's raped your nation out of sense and good for the past 60 years!! Unbelievable !!
 
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A direct Marshal laws would be drastic step
  • I think 2017 Election is fair , and pardon & Fine for Taxes should be reasonable for Nawaz Sharif
  • Full apology is needed for people killed in Punjab by police/ unknown folks - responsibility of Punjab decision makers
  • Retraining of Police (Punjab/Sindh) with immediate effect serve the people not politicans
But Prime Minister should step down , under pretext of Health / Family reasons - as there are "Corruption Charges" against his whole family which are difficult to disprove. Come on 10 year old running a 20 million company or owning homes and condos ?

Hold election after 1 year with "NADRA Card" based , Electronic Voting. Allow voters holding cards while working overseas !!!

However if PML(N) wishes confrontational Approach , then Raiwind it will be the FInal showdown

What happened to Qadafi , will happen to Mr Nawaz becasue people are fed up with this cat and mouse game
 
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You are right. Mushy had a lot of other chances he missed too. Because he was too busy bringing Indian actresses as the "State Guest of Pakistan" and drinking the "General's Juice" as his chef refers to it (its Whiskey, just so there is no confusion)!! He was also too busy to launder and defraud Pakistan's $ 200 million from the US aid. This money was used to buy mansions in Turkey, US and the UK for Mr. Mushy, and a few hotels in the US!! He was busy alright.

Then came Mr. Kiyani, and from just one deal from the DHA, he was able to do corruption worth well over 6 billion!! And when it leaked out, the Army covered his name, and his brother was asked to go to London and chill out for a year or so, till they put the blame on him.

So obviously. the miliary ain't no sane angels sitting there, they like the Green on a dollar just as much as the other guy. But per your suggestions, these guys might be angels in disguise (very corrupt angels at that with the examples I provided.

The true reality is, if today, a civilian government dint exist, Pakistan would've been gone through a bankruptcy!! Everyone around you from India, Afghanistan to Iran wants to break you, and here you are, somehow cheer leading for another military rule that's raped your nation out of sense and good for the past 60 years!! Unbelievable !!

and the civilians didn't rape this country! right!
 
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