The F35 will be cancelled before 500 planes are made (prediction by Pierre Sprey)

[mil-avia]

And remember, the performance of the Harrier never was comparable to a top of the line contemporary fighter, yet is was a very usefull asset, with unique capabilities.

Far From Battlefield, Marines Lose One-Third of Harrier Fleet December 15, 2002

A Staggering Abundance of Crash-Causing Glitches December 16, 2002

'At Least We Got to Kiss Him Goodbye' December 17, 2002

More Than A Few Good Men December 17, 2002

Storming Capitol Hill December 18, 2002

Once a Marine, Always a Marine December 18, 2002

From the Corps to the Corp. December 18, 2002

 

[anon45]

Boring where is the dog fight

So are you dismissing the video because its boring to you?

Its very informative.
If you were referring to the supposed dog fight between the F-35 and F-16, that question was the first one answered.

F-35 JSF on track for deliveries

F-35 JSF on track for deliveries
07 Jan 2016



The US Department of Defense (DOD) accepted its 45th F-35 Lightning II aircraft delivery for 2015, meeting the program production goal for the year. With this delivery, Lockheed Martin has delivered 154 operational aircraft to the DOD and partner nations since program inception.

“Meeting aircraft production goals is a critical stepping stone in demonstrating the program is ready for the expected significant production ramp up,” F-35 Program Executive Officer Lieutenant General Chris Bogdan said.

“It took thousands of people around the world to achieve this milestone and they should all be proud of what they accomplished.”

The 45 F-35 deliveries include:

• 26 F-35A - US Air Force
• 2 F-35A - Royal Norwegian Air Force (first two)
• 1 F-35A - Aeronautica Militare (first Italian Air Force)
• 8 F-35B - US Marine Corps
• 8 F-35C - US Navy/US Marine Corps

The 45 F-35 Lightning II aircraft are assigned to the following installations:

• 17 - Luke Air Force Base, Glendale, Arizona – including all international jets
• 8 - Marine Corps Air Station, Beaufort, South Carolina
• 8 - Eglin Air Force Base, Valparaiso, Florida
• 5 - Hill Air Force Base, Ogden, Utah
• 7 - Nellis Air Force Base, Las Vegas, Nevada

Of the 45 aircraft delivered, 44 were from the Fort Worth facility in Texas and one was from the Cameri facility in Italy. The 2015 total represents a 25 per cent increase in production on the previous year.

“Delivering the most F-35s in program history is a clear demonstration of our growing maturity and stability,” Lockheed Martin F-35 Program General Manager Lorraine Martin said.

“Congratulations to the entire government and industry team for their work to deliver 45 aircraft.”

The F-35 Lightning II, a 5th generation fighter, combines advanced low observable stealth technology with fighter speed and agility, fully fused sensor information, network-enabled operations and advanced sustainment. Three distinct variants of the F-35 will replace the A-10 and F-16 for the US Air Force, the F/A-18 for the US Navy, the F/A-18 and AV-8B Harrier for the US Marine Corps, and a variety of fighters for at least 10 other countries.

 

[mil-avia]

And remember, the performance of the Harrier never was comparable to a top of the line contemporary fighter, yet is was a very usefull asset, with unique capabilities.

Chasing the Widow-Maker

The 2014 Marine jet crash in Southern California was caused by oil leak: report

Harrier crash images

List of Harrier Jump Jet family losses

Marine Harrier damaged after emergency ship landing

 

[Penguin]

Hovering at a Precipice: Does Obsession with an all STOVL Force Unnecessarily Endanger the Future of Marine Corps Tactical Fixed-wing Aviation?

F-35B: A Less-Than-Capable Platform

F-35B can’t fit full weapons load because of design flaw

The F-35B can't carry its most advanced weapon until 2022

Australia Abandons Proposal To Order F35B

F-35B aircraft: Is it worth the cost?

F-35B Needs a Plan B: Options to Rising Costs of the Aircraft

7 Things The Marines Have To Do To Make The F-35B Worth The Huge Cost

Pentagon remains stubbornly unable to account for its billions
A celebration by the Marine Corps of its accounting prowess turns out to have been premature, with a discrepancy in a key audit of $800 million

Pentagon Can't Account for Nearly $1 Billion It Spent

F-35 Stealth Fighter Spy Cover-Up

Since you are only posting links an no comment, why quote my post
(hint: in reality, you have no rear argument against the unique capability the F035B offers).

Chasing the Widow-Maker

The 2014 Marine jet crash in Southern California was caused by oil leak: report

Harrier crash images

List of Harrier Jump Jet family losses

Marine Harrier damaged after emergency ship landing

Ph, so now you are attempting to suggest the Harrier was a failure? Laughable, particularly since there are crashes for ANY in service aircraft type. The by itself above prooves ... nothing.

During its service with the USMC, the Harrier [single engine AV-8B, that is] has had an accident rate three times that of the Corps' [twin engine] F/A-18s. As of July 2013, approximately 110 aircraft have been damaged beyond repair since the type entered service in 1985,[161] the first accident occurring in March that year.[162] The AV-8 was dubbed a "widow maker" by some in the military.[99][163] The Los Angeles Times reported in 2003 that the Harrier family had the highest rate of major accidents among military aircraft in service at that time, with 148 accidents and 45 people killed.[164] However, Lon Nordeen notes that several other USMC single-engine strike aircraft, like the A-4 Skyhawk and A-7 Corsair II, had worse accident rates.[165]

Accidents have in particular been connected to the proportionate amount of time the aircraft spends taking off and landing, which are the most critical phases in flight.[99][166] Further analysis shows that US Marine senior officers never understood the uniqueness of the aircraft, that the Harrier design was more complex, like that of helicopters. Cutbacks in senior maintenance personnel and pilot mistakes had a disastrous effect on the safety of the American-operated AV-8B, which gained it a negative reputation in the US press that was not deserved

McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I.e. NOT INHERENT CHARACTERISTIC OF THE AIRCRAFT.
I suppose Skyhawk and Corsair 2 were lousy aircraft too!


Harrier GR.1 / GR.3 & AV-8A/C/S Harrier / Matador: 278 produced 1967-1970
Royal Air Force (historical)
United States Marine Corps (historical)
Spanish Navy (historical)
Royal Thai Navy (historical)

Sea Harrier: 111 produced 1980-1988
Royal Navy (historical)
Indian Naval Air Arm

AV-8B Harrier II: 337 (excluding the YAV-8B) produced 1981–2003
United States Marine Corps
Italian Navy
Spanish Navy

BAE Harrier II: 143 produced 1985 on
Royal Air Force (historical)
Royal Navy (historical)

Sea Harrier Over the Falklands
accident—free track record. The fundamental reason was that the RAF had learned from their own mistakes and had passed on all their flight safety knowledge

Sea Harrier Over the Falklands - Commander 'Sharkey' Ward, DSC, AFC, RN - Google Boeken

 

[mil-avia]

“After two-plus years designing a plane, building staff, and reaching a spend rate of $300 million a month, going back and doing remedial work on STOVL was extremely punitive to the program,” said the Pentagon's top weapons buyer

 

[anon45]

Israel receives first F-35 'Adir' fighter jet - Defense/Security - News - Arutz Sheva

 

[mil-avia]

A Few Unresolved Joint Strike Fighter Issues

 

[mil-avia]

Learning the Right Lessons from the F-35

The Lesson of the F-35

 

[Taygibay]

Hello mil-avid our strange buddy! Glad to see you're still alive.

All the best IRL, read you much later, Tay.

 

[Penguin]

“After two-plus years designing a plane, building staff, and reaching a spend rate of $300 million a month, going back and doing remedial work on STOVL was extremely punitive to the program,” said the Pentagon's top weapons buyer

And is also says:
"During that decade, the F-35 cost rose along with the Pentagon’s overall budget for developing and buying new weapons, which increased 62 percent to $208 billion in 2011 from $128 billion in 2001. The jet has been bedeviled by a costly redesign, faulty cost estimates, fluctuating order quantities, and infrastructure built on assumptions of rapid production.

Even so, the plane has not failed or faced crippling technical problems in flight tests, and Lockheed says the jets are meeting test goals. Last month, the Marine Corps version, the most complex variant, demonstrated the first short takeoff and vertical landing on a ship.
...
“We do now have a family of three airplanes that are unique and highly capable,” Burbage said. “Our biggest challenge now moves from the technical to the political.”"

 

[dadeechi]

India to should immediately get onto the F-35 program before it gets shut to avoid the repeat of C-17 procurement

India’s hopes of procuring three Boeing C-17 aircraft appear bleak | Business Line

On a serious note, Can India transfer the contracts of Canada, Denmark and other countries that are backing out and get into the line/queue ahead of the others?

 

[anon45]

India to should immediately get onto the F-35 program before it gets shut to avoid the repeat of C-17 procurement

India’s hopes of procuring three Boeing C-17 aircraft appear bleak | Business Line

On a serious note, Can India transfer the contracts of Canada, Denmark and other countries that are backing out and get into the line/queue ahead of the others?

Canada hasn't exactly backed out, They are holding a competition that the F-35 will be in while still paying in to the F-35 program. Sounds like the conclusion is foregone to me, especially considering the utter about face we see in action and silence in words from pre-election rhetoric.

Just remember They haven't even stopped paying into the program.

They will probably buy F-35's on less generous term than were otherwise possible within the decade after a pr competition to make good on bad promises..


With Billions on the Line, the F-35 May Get Another Chance in Canada | The Fiscal Times

Particularly this quote.

Canada will stand by its pledge to invest $150 million in the F-35 effort’s development but will also hold a new fighter competition to examine alternatives.

Sajjan refuses to rule out F-35 from fighter jet replacement competition - Politics - CBC News

The CF-18, the F-35: still up in the air - The Globe and Mail

and neither has Denmark.

Delaying decision by at most a year is not backing out,

As for India... not sure if the US would be comfortable selling the F-35 to unaligned countries. I'm under the assumption that India is looking to Russia, but given that its 5th gen program is getting slashed, I can see why they would want to look elsewhere.

 

[dadeechi]

Canada hasn't exactly backed out, They are holding a competition that the F-35 will be in while still paying in to the F-35 program. Sounds like the conclusion is foregone to me, especially considering the utter about face we see in action and silence in words from pre-election rhetoric.

Just remember They haven't even stopped paying into the program.

They will probably buy F-35's on less generous term than were otherwise possible within the decade after a pr competition to make good on bad promises..


With Billions on the Line, the F-35 May Get Another Chance in Canada | The Fiscal Times

Particularly this quote.


Sajjan refuses to rule out F-35 from fighter jet replacement competition - Politics - CBC News

The CF-18, the F-35: still up in the air - The Globe and Mail

and neither has Denmark.

Delaying decision by at most a year is not backing out,

As for India... not sure if the US would be comfortable selling the F-35 to unaligned countries. I'm under the assumption that India is looking to Russia, but given that its 5th gen program is getting slashed, I can see why they would want to look elsewhere.

India and US have been negotiating the DTTI and upon it's completion, India is planning to acquire F-35Cs for it's new aircraft carrier. The question mark is around the F-35As as India already has a JV with Russia which is apparently running into trouble (may also be related to shift of interest from PAK-FA/FGFA to F-35A). In the past LM has pitched F-16 block 60s for India's MMRCA with a path for aquisition of F-35A at a later stage but the timeline for F-35A has always been the contentious issue.

India needs F-35A yesterday.

 

[mil-avia]

Will Danes be next to Axe F-35 acquisition?

Analysis: Lower F-35 Operating Costs Should Be Taken with A Pinch of Salt

Thunder without Lightning: The High Costs and Limited Benefits of the F-35 Program

The USAF stood down some F-16s in the wake of the defense spending cut affected by the sequestration

The USAF is on track to reduce the size of its force to the smallest in its history

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter: One of America's Worst Fighter Jets Ever?

F-35 Matters: Important, Informative Article on F-35 Lifetime Costs

Before the Cut: The Global Politics of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

Air Force to Cut Civilian Workforce Through Reductions in Force

Lockheed Martin’s F-35 Manufacturing Will Slow in 2016

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

When 99% of world countries can't even make a JF17 thunder , why waste billions in planes like F35 and vertical landing

The mere F15 is enough with enhancements for 200 years