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The Death of the Family | National Review Online

Gay marriage? It came up at dinner Down Under this time last year, and the prominent Aussie politician on my right said matter-of-factly, “It’s not about expanding marriage, it’s about destroying marriage.”

That would be the most obvious explanation as to why the same societal groups who assured us in the Seventies that marriage was either (a) a “meaningless piece of paper” or (b) institutionalized rape are now insisting it’s a universal human right. They’ve figured out what, say, terrorist-turned-educator Bill Ayers did — that, when it comes to destroying core civilizational institutions, trying to blow them up is less effective than hollowing them out from within.

On the other hand, there are those who argue it’s a victory for the powerful undertow of bourgeois values over the surface ripples of sexual transgressiveness: Gays will now be as drearily suburban as the rest of us. A couple of years back, I saw a picture in the paper of two chubby old queens tying the knot at City Hall in Vancouver, and the thought occurred that Western liberalism had finally succeeded in boring all the fun out of homosexuality.


Which of these alternative scenarios — the demolition of marriage or the taming of the gay — will come to pass? Most likely, both. In the upper echelons of society, our elites practice what they don’t preach. Scrupulously nonjudgmental about everything except traditional Christian morality, they nevertheless lead lives in which, as Charles Murray documents in his book Coming Apart, marriage is still expected to be a lifelong commitment. It is easy to see moneyed gay newlyweds moving into such enclaves, and making a go of it. As the Most Reverend Justin Welby, the new Archbishop of Canterbury and head of the worldwide Anglican Communion, said just before his enthronement the other day, “You see gay relationships that are just stunning in the quality of the relationship.” “Stunning”: What a fabulous endorsement! But, amongst the type of gay couple that gets to dine with the Archbishop of Canterbury, he’s probably right.

Lower down the socioeconomic scale, the quality gets more variable. One reason why conservative appeals to protect the sacred procreative essence of marriage have gone nowhere is because Americans are rapidly joining the Scandinavians in doing most of their procreating without benefit of clergy. Seventy percent of black babies are born out of wedlock, so are 53 percent of Hispanics (the “natural conservative constituency” du jour, according to every lavishly remunerated Republican consultant), and 70 percent of the offspring of poor white women. Over half the babies born to mothers under 30 are now “illegitimate” (to use a quaintly judgmental formulation). For the first three-and-a-half centuries of American settlement the bastardy rate (to be even quainter) was a flat line in the basement of the graph, stuck at 2 or 3 percent all the way to the eve of the Sixties. Today over 40 percent of American births are “non-marital,” which is significantly higher than Canada or Germany. “Stunning” upscale gays will join what’s left of the American family holed up in a chichi Green Zone, while beyond the perimeter the vast mounds of human rubble pile up remorselessly. The conservative defense of marriage rings hollow because for millions of families across this land the American marriage is hollow.

If the Right’s case has been disfigured by delusion, the Left’s has been marked by a pitiful parochialism. At the Supreme Court this week, Ted Olson, the former solicitor general, was one of many to invoke comparisons with Loving v. Virginia, the 1967 case that struck down laws prohibiting interracial marriage. But such laws were never more than a localized American perversion of marriage. In almost all other common-law jurisdictions, from the British West Indies to Australia, there was no such prohibition. Indeed, under the Raj, it’s estimated that one in three British men in the Indian subcontinent took a local wife. “Miscegenation” is a 19th-century American neologism. When the Supreme Court struck down laws on interracial marriage, it was not embarking on a wild unprecedented experiment but merely restoring the United States to the community of civilized nations within its own legal tradition. Ted Olson is a smart guy, but he sounded like Mary-Kate and Ashley’s third twin in his happy-face banalities last week.

Yet, beyond the Court, liberal appeals to “fairness” are always the easiest to make. Because, for too much of its history, this country was disfigured by halfwit rules about who can sit where on public transportation and at lunch counters, the default position of most Americans today is that everyone should have the right to sit anywhere: If a man self-identifies as a woman and wants to sit on the ladies’ toilet, where’s the harm? If a woman wants to be a soldier and sit in a foxhole in the Hindu Kush, sure, let her. If a mediocre high-school student wants to sit in a college class, that’s only fair. American “rights” have taken on the same vapid character as grade-school sports: Everyone must be allowed to participate, and everyone is entitled to the same participation ribbon.

Underneath all this apparent “fairness” is a lot of unfairness. Entire new categories of crime have arisen in the wake of familial collapse, like the legions of adolescent daughters abused by Mom’s latest live-in boyfriend. Millions of children are now raised in transient households that make not just economic opportunity but even elementary character-formation all but impossible. In the absence of an agreed moral language to address this brave new world, Americans retreat to comforting euphemisms like “blended families,” notwithstanding that the familial Cuisinart seems to atomize at least as often as it blends.
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Meanwhile, social mobility declines: Doctors who once married their nurses now marry their fellow doctors; lawyers who once married their secretaries now contract with fellow super-lawyers, like dynastic unions in medieval Europe. Underneath the self-insulating elite, millions of Americans are downwardly mobile: The family farmers and mill workers, the pioneers who hacked their way into the wilderness and built a township, could afford marriage and children; indeed, it was an economic benefit. For their descendants doing minimum-wage service jobs about to be rendered obsolete by technology, functioning families are a tougher act, and children an economic burden. The gays looked at contemporary marriage and called the traditionalists’ bluff.

Modern Family works well on TV, less so in the rusting double-wides of decrepit mill towns where, very quickly, the accumulated social capital of two centuries is drained, and too much is too wrecked. In Europe, where dependency, decadence, and demographic decline are extinguishing some of the oldest nations on earth, a successor population is already in place in the restive Muslim housing projects. With their vibrant multicultural attitudes to feminism and homosexuality, there might even be a great sitcom in it: Pre-Modern Family — and, ultimately, post-Modern.

“Fiscal conservatives” recoil from this kind of talk like homophobes at a bathhouse: The sooner some judge somewhere takes gay marriage off the table the sooner the right can go back to talking about debt and Obamacare without being dismissed as uptight theocratic bigots. But it doesn’t work like that. Most of the social liberalism comes with quite a price tag. The most reliable constituency for Big Government is single women, for whom the state is a girl’s best friend, the sugar daddy whose checks never bounce. A society in which a majority of births are out of wedlock cannot be other than a Big Government welfare society. Ruining a nation’s finances is one thing; debauching its human capital is far harder to fix.

Mark Steyn, a National Review columnist, is the author of After America: Get Ready for Armageddon. © 2013 Mark Steyn

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The Death of the Family | National Review Online



Seventy percent of black babies are born out of wedlock, so are 53 percent of Hispanics (the “natural conservative constituency” du jour, according to every lavishly remunerated Republican consultant), and 70 percent of the offspring of poor white women. Over half the babies born to mothers under 30 are now “illegitimate” (to use a quaintly judgmental formulation). For the first three-and-a-half centuries of American settlement the bastardy rate (to be even quainter) was a flat line in the basement of the graph, stuck at 2 or 3 percent all the way to the eve of the Sixties. Today over 40 percent of American births are “non-marital,” which is significantly higher than Canada or Germany. “Stunning” upscale gays will join what’s left of the American family holed up in a chichi Green Zone, while beyond the perimeter the vast mounds of human rubble pile up remorselessly. The conservative defense of marriage rings hollow because for millions of families across this land the American marriage is hollow.

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Underneath all this apparent “fairness” is a lot of unfairness. Entire new categories of crime have arisen in the wake of familial collapse, like the legions of adolescent daughters abused by Mom’s latest live-in boyfriend. Millions of children are now raised in transient households that make not just economic opportunity but even elementary character-formation all but impossible. In the absence of an agreed moral language to address this brave new world, Americans retreat to comforting euphemisms like “blended families,” notwithstanding that the familial Cuisinart seems to atomize at least as often as it blends.
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Mark Steyn, a National Review columnist, is the author of After America: Get Ready for Armageddon. © 2013 Mark Steyn

Also for people who argue how normal culture is in UK and other countries, just google this on youtube. This is what passes as normal fun.

Notting Hill Carnival 2012 Official No.1 Carnival Highlights (HD)

Even though the african American community and the Hispanic community is overwhelmingly social conservative and are opposed to gay rights.

Then steyn goes to talk about social mobility, when it is obvious the biggest mover of social mobility in America was the 1950's when the jobs were based around manufacturing. Those jobs are gone to the htid world, and the restructuring of the new economy is based on knowledge.

He then makes a point about society stagnating with Men and Women marrying their equals, he sees this as more social stagnation, or is it the result of of more Women actually playing those roles?

and then he connects all together in one incoherent argument which serves as dog whistles to his constituency. When Scandinavian countries actually have teenage pregnancies less than so called 'third' world countries.

Oh this is the same Mark Steyn who finds parity with Rush limbaugh, the same fire breathing conservative who said it was a mistake to let Women vote, the same guy who is addicted to oxycontin and flies to Dominican republic with viagara bottles in tow, whilst calling democrats moral degenerates.

The reason that poor white Americans, African Americans and Hispanics have such a high birth rate among teens is because of few economic prospects, few prospects to advance because the new jobs in Western countries requires years of education and manufacturing has gone to other countries.

He says entire new categories of crimes have arisen, when you look at crime statistics, violent crime has actually fallen over the years.

As for his transient household remark, it is pretty much him wishing for the days when the Men controlled everything. Sorry bub, Women can divorce now,

Maybe you should concentrate on making Divorce laws less ridiculous and more equitable.
 
Even though the african American community and the Hispanic community is overwhelmingly social conservative and are opposed to gay rights

Given their out of wedlock birthrate and other social indicators, obviously they are no longer social conservatives in the traditional sense of the term.

Then steyn goes to talk about social mobility, when it is obvious the biggest mover of social mobility in America was the 1950's when the jobs were based around manufacturing. Those jobs are gone to the htid world, and the restructuring of the new economy is based on knowledge.

School is still free and for college loans are available, so getting educated is not all that difficult. The plain fact is families have been destroyed and with it the incentive and the ability to adapt to the new economy.

He then makes a point about society stagnating with Men and Women marrying their equals, he sees this as more social stagnation, or is it the result of of more Women actually playing those roles?

Earlier apart from the financial disparity, there was not much difference between the social values and a single income household could afford to raise a family so the woman's income did not matter. Not so now. Even double income households struggle to make ends meet. Women joining the work pool has not improved their financial standing. Single mother households are the poorest of all groups.

and then he connects all together in one incoherent argument which serves as dog whistles to his constituency. When Scandinavian countries actually have teenage pregnancies less than so called 'third' world countries.

It is you who missed the point. Scandinavian countries cannot be the example for any other country to emulate. Given their scarce population and enormous natural resources, they can well afford a social safety net which is beyond the means of other countries. Scandinavian can well afford to have teenage pregnancies and out of wedlock pregnancies from an economic point of view.

Oh this is the same Mark Steyn who finds parity with Rush limbaugh, the same fire breathing conservative who said it was a mistake to let Women vote, the same guy who is addicted to oxycontin and flies to Dominican republic with viagara bottles in tow, whilst calling democrats moral degenerates.

What has Rush Limbaugh's addiction to oxycontin or carrying Viagara bottles got to do with Mark Steyn. Do you mean that since Mark Steyn agrees with Rush Limbaugh on a lot of issues, he is a clone of Limbaugh? Sorry it does not work that way. As far as I know Mark has a stable family and has been consistent in his sociopolitical views and his personal life.


The reason that poor white Americans, African Americans and Hispanics have such a high birth rate among teens is because of few economic prospects, few prospects to advance because the new jobs in Western countries requires years of education and manufacturing has gone to other countries.

This is bull. Much poorer countries have lesser out of wedlock pregnancies, e.g. South Asia. And too bad they priced themselves out of competition in a globalized world with their high prized social safety nets.


He says entire new categories of crimes have arisen, when you look at crime statistics, violent crime has actually fallen over the years.

The prison population has never been as high as it is today or drug addiction or alcoholism or prostitution.

As for his transient household remark, it is pretty much him wishing for the days when the Men controlled everything. Sorry bub, Women can divorce now,

Not too certain women are cherishing their status now or the children. More men now prefer to play video games in their basement than raise a family while the women struggle to bring up 3 children from 3 different men while maintaining 3 jobs.

Maybe you should concentrate on making Divorce laws less ridiculous and more equitable.

The divorce laws are the result of arduous efforts of the liberal feminists and their dream come true.


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