The bombing of Hiroshima: A necesary measure or a racist war crime?

[SecularNationalist]

Well at least one bright spark amongst the dullards that frequent PDF. Yes for the rest, read up on shudan jiketsu - compulsory mass suicide. . Can you believe the emperor telling his loyal subjects to end their lives - and people did as instructed without question.

The nuclear bombs perhaps saved the rest of Japan from a similar fate.

.... and was not a battle to protect the people (kokumin) of the mainland. It was a preliminary battle before eventually taking the entire nation (kokumin subete) to death along with the Emperor.


“They will not surrender”

In the spring of 1944, American troops in Saipan bore witness to a “banzai” charge, where nearly 4,000 Japanese soldiers charged American troops and fought to their death. They were following the last orders of their commander, Lieutenant General Yoshisugu Saito, who had called for this all-out surprise attack in the honor of the Emperor before committing ritual suicide. When the American troops entered Saipan, they witnessed a different atrocity as they saw women grabbing children and jumping from cliffs rather than submitting to capture by the American troops.

As America pushed forward, island by island, troops continued to bear witness to Japanese soldiers and civilians taking their own lives. Okinawa was a particularly hellish scene as nearly one-third of the island population died. Among these were Koreans who had been forcibly migrated from annexed Korea to Japanese islands to be press-ganged as laborers and comfort women. While the Japanese government states there was “military involvement” in these suicides, survivors attest to a compulsory mass suicide, or shudan jiketsu. https://www.atomicheritage.org/history/japanese-mass-suicides

Compulsory Mass Suicide, the Battle of Okinawa, and Japan's Textbook Controversy - The Asia-Pacific Journal: Japan Focus

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Agree the word of emperor was like a word of God in Japan.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Japs themselves are racist messed up scum. Should have dropped a few more and finished that shit hole once and for all.

Then the whole world have been deprived from superior electronics in every household.
Think ten times before calling Japan a shithole. Your comment is shameless.

 

[Cookie Monster]

True. But then why weren't the Germans nuked too? If the Japanese were White Europeans, they would have been spared.

While racism is alive and healthy in US...I highly doubt that was the reason of why Japan was nuked and Germany wasn't.

There was a whole lot more at stake than race. There was no time to stop and take race into consideration to devise war strategies. The war was one of the most brutal and costly to have ever been fought in human history. There were lots of incentives to bring it to a close sooner rather than later.

It just so happened that the strategy that was devised first involved defeating Germany. It made sense...bcuz the nations fighting Germany(some of which were US allies) were already on all sides...all they needed to do was close in...which they did. It was a much cleaner(contiguous land) battle(s) in the larger scheme of things...as opposed to island hopping. US(other allies) pushed from the west...Soviets from the east...and once u establish a foothold...it's a much easier way to roll across German occupied territories and then into Germany with all the troops and tanks, etc...
...try to imagine doing that with territories Japan had occupied. U would have to go sort of country by country. The biggest chunk of contiguous land would be parts of China/Korea...the rest would be an immense challenge...to move troops and gear.

If u look at it objectively...it was a sound strategy to defeat Germany first then focus on Japan. If the situations were reversed...there's no reason to think that Germany wouldn't be nuked.

The only thing I disagree with is that they nuked civilians. To be fair...all sides bombed each other without much care of civilians...but nukes are on another level...and out of morality civilians shouldn't have been nuked.