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The Al-Khalid and MBT-2000 are Different Tanks : O

Hassan Guy

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Yeah, it took a while to get this stuff checked man.
You may have seen a lot of unreliable media like The National Interest and Global security list the Al-Khalid as a JV and the same as the MBT-2000.

Other more biased sources like the wikipedia or as I like to call it wikiindia or indopedia have listed the tank as the same and say the AK is a licence produced MBT-2000. ye, apparently they don't like that the AK is Main-Stay of the PA, and that they still assemble T-90's under licence because the Arjun sucks massive balls. (just kidding I love butter chicken)

But ye, if you look at HIT's product list the AK and AK1 is not listed under the joint-venture product list like the dragoon ASV or Saad where HIT worked with a foreign partner, but it is listed as an independently developed and manufactured product like the Talha and Sakb.

If you look at HIT's product catalog the AK and AK1 are again not listed under the JV list and they are presented as different products, so different tanks. They also present the specifications which show the differences. You have the AK2 coming up and China's over there producing the MBT-3000, both independently without any apparent joint development deal and there is no official agreement of a JV and no Joint workshare like the JF-17.

So with all this there is no way they are the same tanks.

Army Recognition says (which is a fairly reliable source) "The Al-Khalid is a modern main battle tank developed and manufactured in Pakistan by the local company Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) for the Pakistan Army......(NORINCO), which is also marketing a similar vehicle on the export market called the Main Battle Tank 2000."

Essentially what they're saying is the AK and MBT-2000 are different machines.

They also say "The Al Khalid tank is based on the Chinese Norinco Type-90-II Main Battle Tank (MBT)."

This confirms the cooperation in the field of tanks between both dudes, but they didn't work on the same product (tank) together.

So what I have found here gentlemen is that the AK and the MBT-2000 have originated from the same design (T-72) and the same tech-demonstrators or prototypes(Type-90-II).
Butt they have both taken different development paths, and are thus different tanks.
 
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Very awesome thread, I really want to know what ak-1 got, what's the world ranking, is it able to show (talk to my hand) to Indian t-90

What about AK-2
Is AK-2 will be a 3.5 or 4th Generation tank?
 
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lol, doesn't work like that man, people there are far to stubborn unless they don't get what they wan't.

I'm sure someone here has written a piece on the AK.

We can all see the Wikipedia article. Look at what's wrong and correct it.
 
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lol, doesn't work like that man, people there are far to stubborn unless they don't get what they wan't.

No @Hassan Guy take the initiative and edit the page with proper references. Here is what happens: if somebody tried to wage a war by repeatedly reverting your changes, the management will automatically lock the page down and a discussion will be started. Then, we can prove the wrongdoing by Indians.

Go on man, be bold and edit the page. I have edited some pages in the past as well.
 
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No @Hassan Guy take the initiative and edit the page with proper references. Here is what happens: if somebody tried to wage a war by repeatedly reverting your changes, the management will automatically lock the page down and a discussion will be started. Then, we can prove the wrongdoing by Indians.

Go on man, be bold and edit the page. I have edited some pages in the past as well.
ye, doesn't really work kinda tried that already.
Because what should happen is the Al-Khalid and MBT-2000 should be separate articles. And I added to the talk page but it was just shunned down.
 
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