The 50s Big 4. English Electric Lightning vs Sukhoi Su-7 vs Lockheed F-104 vs Dassault Mirage III .

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

English Electric Lightning. First flight August 1954. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

Sukhoi Su-7 first flight September 1955. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

Lockheed F-104. First flight February 1956. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

Dassault Mirage III. First flight November 1956. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

 

[Ultima Thule]

English Electric Lightning. First flight August 1954. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

Sukhoi Su-7 first flight September 1955. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

Lockheed F-104. First flight February 1956. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

Dassault Mirage III. First flight November 1956. Mach 2. 1 engine. Rudimentary radar.

Su-7 suck only few year in VVS, F-104 also sucks because lack of range and payloads, mirage much more successful, why you compare irrelevant jet Su-7 is ground attack/strike jet, whereas F-104/ Mirage-3 are interceptors @undertakerwwefan

 

[Skull and Bones]

Out of all of them, only Mirage III is still in service. Speaks about the quality of French products.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Out of all of them, only Mirage III is still in service. Speaks about the quality of French products.

The only reason Mirage III is still in service is because Argentina is under sanction for laying claim to Falklands.

 

[Ultima Thule]

The only reason Mirage III is still in service is because Argentina is under sanction for laying claim to Falklands.

your comparison is all wrong Su-7 is ground attack/strike jet, whereas rest of all were/is interceptors, you stupid @undertakerwwefan

 

[Skull and Bones]

The only reason Mirage III is still in service is because Argentina is under sanction for laying claim to Falklands.

Pakistan is also using Mirage III despite of having access to world class aircrafts like Su-35, J-10 or F-16 block 52.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

Pakistan is also using Mirage III despite of having access to world class aircrafts like Su-35, J-10 or F-16 block 52.

It's because the the loot maar of pmln ppp and their corresponding touts in bureaucracy.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Pakistan is also using Mirage III despite of having access to world class aircrafts like Su-35, J-10 or F-16 block 52.

For strike only.

 

[Kompromat]

Just check which one of them is still flying today and you'll know the answer.

 

[Cuirassier]

Just check which one of them is still flying today and you'll know the answer.

Combat record in subcontinent also speaks, 19 Su-7s were lost in the 1971 Air War, while zero Mirage III were lost, having 3 confirmed air to air kills.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

19 Su-7s were lost in the 1971 Air War, while zero Mirage III were lost, having 3 confirmed air to air kills.

This does not necessarily mean Mirage III is better than Su-7. Israelis at the time were Russian immigrants. White people. Blue eyed. Blond haired. Well trained. Lots of combat experience from WW2. Very smart. Arabs at the time were not well trained and lacked combat experience.

If Su-7 and Mirage III were piloted by the same pilots it would have been a roughly 50 50 kill rate on both sides.

 

[Ultima Thule]

This does not necessarily mean Mirage III is better than Su-7. Israelis at the time were Russian immigrants. White people. Blue eyed. Blond haired. Well trained. Lots of combat experience from WW2. Very smart. Arabs at the time were not well trained and lacked combat experience.

If Su-7 and Mirage III were piloted by the same pilots it would have been a roughly 50 50 kill rate on both sides.

you're know nothing what is you talking about, Su-7 wasds a ground attack/CAS jet, whereas Mirage-3 is/was interceptor, Mirage-3 had definitely had have an edge over Su-7 with better air to air radar, better maneuverability as compare to Su-7, and don't compare different jet with different role @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

you're know nothing what is you talking about, Su-7 wasds a ground attack/CAS jet, whereas Mirage-3 is/was interceptor, Mirage-3 had definitely had have an edge over Su-7 with better air to air radar, better maneuverability as compare to Su-7, and don't compare different jet with different role @undertakerwwefan

Wrong. Su-17 was the fighter bomber version of Su-7. Su-7 was mainly dogfighter.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Wrong. Su-17 was the fighter bomber version of Su-7. Su-7 was mainly dogfighter.

and Very few year in Soviet air force and discarded by soviet air fores as dog fighter and rest inits carrier use as a fighter bomber version do research before speak @undertakerwwefan