Text of Long March Declaration

[Leader]

This is why Pakistan's election system need radical reforms..
Popular people fail to make it to assemblies and unpopular figures, criminals and anti state elements, go all the way to President ship and ministership.

that is not because there is a problem in the system but because of the fact the Qadri has no political worth in Pakistan..

 

[batmannow]

that is not because there is a problem in the system but because of the fact the Qadri has no political worth in Pakistan..

Politics is a strange, thing years of hardwork canbe losted,in just few actions, incidents, or even not giving importance to the ground realities?
JI lost karachi in early 80s, politiclyu?
& NS lost punjab to PMLq in musharaf,s time?
& just recently PTI to TuQ, he is still on the charts?
Only advantage now PTI have is their home work they done in the form of having political stucture in punjab?
Bt as it was visible jst after the ,buy-elections PMLn, got back the losted grounds from PTI & PMLq?
& most recntly its TuQ!
The best for both is a united front against ,PMLn!
Even though,low level PTIans feels TuQ is a threat to PTI, bt IK & higher leadership is thinking cleverly to use TuQ as Long range ICBM against , PMLn!

 

[batmannow]

Bolta Pakistan (Part-2) - 17th January 2013
Guys watch this part of Bolta Pakistan this will show How big slave of kufr this Qadri is specially the part from 20th Minute to 30th Minute

The shows title been changed long time ago, cause nusrat javeed been caught drinking wisky many times!
So now its been called!
Nashey mein doltaa pakistan!
Will post his mast pics, in the evening!lol

 

[Leader]

Politics is a strange, thing years of hardwork canbe losted,in just few actions, incidents, or even not giving importance to the ground realities?
JI lost karachi in early 80s, politiclyu?
& NS lost punjab to PMLq in musharaf,s time?
& just recently PTI to TuQ, he is still on the charts?
Only advantage now PTI have is their home work they done in the form of having political stucture in punjab?
Bt as it was visible jst after the ,buy-elections PMLn, got back the losted grounds from PTI & PMLq?
& most recntly its TuQ!
The best for both is a united front against ,PMLn!
Even though,low level PTIans feels TuQ is a threat to PTI, bt IK & higher leadership is thinking cleverly to use TuQ as Long range ICBM against , PMLn!

hahah... come on yar.... I know its hard for you to accept that TuQ actually broke a deal with PPP. I told you before hand you are betting on wrong cards !!

 

[BATMAN]

that is not because there is a problem in the system but because of the fact the Qadri has no political worth in Pakistan..

He pulled million people to Islamabad, against all odds... and you think no one will vote for him?

 

[Leader]

He pulled million people to Islamabad, against all odds... and you think no one will vote for him?

Correction: meelllliioooonnnnnnnnnnnnnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Spring Onion]

Text of long march declaration - thenews.com.pk

It's not too bad, Qadri sahab did manage to save some face. Granted PPP does implement a few of these things then he would have really achieved something

Thank God the drama ended and thanks to Qadri sahab for playing with sentiments of people of Pakistan and all those who sit there for change because what the declaration said has nothing new in it . because

1. Since elections are due in May and as per constitution the assemblies will have to be disolved on March

2. According to constitution the elections will be held within 90 days.

3. the one month period for scrutiny of papers is also there in constitution.


Now what is new here? Article 62 and 63?

i would like to compare article 62 and 63 and the religious color added to articles indeed non other than Ziaul Haq

But how many knows the crux of article 62 and 63? Lets see what these articles say



[62. Qualifications for membership of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament).

A person shall not be qualified to be elected or chosen as a member of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament) unless :-

(a) he is a citizen of Pakistan;

[64B][(b) he is, in the case of the National Assembly, not less than twenty -five years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any electoral roll in-

(i) any part of Pakistan, for election to a general seat or a seat reserved for non-Muslims; and

(ii) any area in a Province from which he seeks membership for election to a seat reserved for women.]


(c) he is, in the case of Senate, not less than thirty years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any area in a Province or, as the case may be, the Federal Capital or the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, from where he seeks membership;


(d) he is of good character and is not commonly known as one who violates Islamic Injunctions;

(e) he has adequate knowledge of Islamic teachings and practises obligatory duties prescribed by Islam as well as abstains from major sins ;

(f) he is sagacious, righteous and non-profligate and honest and ameen;

(g) he has not been convicted for a crime involving moral turpitude or for giving false evidence;

(h) he has not, after the establishment of Pakistan, worked against the integrity of the country or opposed the Ideology of Pakistan

Provided that the disqualifications specified in paragraphs (d) and (e) shall not apply to a person who is a non-Muslim, but such a person shall have good moral reputation; and

(i) he possesses such other qualifications as may be prescribed by Act of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament).]

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Now can you guys see anything wrong about the above? this was already in force for all elections except the the bold part of d e and f.

A. Taking these into account how can one define a GOOD Charactered Muslim candidate? which school of though will give the certificate to the candidates?

B. Who will define the level of "Adequate knowledge of Islam" of the candidates? since there are dozens and dozens of interpretitions viz a viz different matters from different scholars.

C. What if a person is sagacious, righteous, honest (though its imposible even if you scane entire Pakistan) But lacks "dequate knowledge of Islam" ?

Just suppose if All in all the above characteristic qualities may meet by a single person out of millions of Pakistanis but what if that person lacks academic/ other qualifications as may be prescribed by Act of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament).


Do we even know that how these inserted in origional constitution of Pakistan ? none other than Ziaul Haq.

These were inserted in the constitution through Presidential Ordinance No. 14 of 1985 by Zia.


Now lets check what the origional constitution said


The article 62 from the original constitution of 1973 is as following

“62. Qualifications for membership of Parliament.– A person shall not be qualified to be elected or chosen as a member of Parliament unless:

(a) he is a citizen of Pakistan,

(b) he is, in the case of the National Assembly, not less than twenty-five years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any electoral roll for election to that Assembly;


(c) he is, in the case of the Senate, not less than thirty years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any area in a Province or, as the case may be, the Federal Capital or the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, from where he seeks membership; and

(d) he possess such other qualifications as may be prescribed by Act of Parliament.”

@haviZsultan, @Leader, @nuclearpak

hope they wont put me to trial for above opinion

 

[ice_man]

the long march declaration was the escape route given to qadri chacha!

till 10 hours before he was calling the EX Prime minister & YAZID ki huqammat etc etc and then he was hugging the same men and saying we have won!!!!

 

[Zarvan]

The shows title been changed long time ago, cause nusrat javeed been caught drinking wisky many times!
So now its been called!
Nashey mein doltaa pakistan!
Will post his mast pics, in the evening!lol

He never called himself Hussaini and other things which Qadri did and than went on to make deal with forces of yazeed

 

[haviZsultan]

Thank God the drama ended and thanks to Qadri sahab for playing with sentiments of people of Pakistan and all those who sit there for change because what the declaration said has nothing new in it . because

1. Since elections are due in May and as per constitution the assemblies will have to be disolved on March

2. According to constitution the elections will be held within 90 days.

3. the one month period for scrutiny of papers is also there in constitution.


Now what is new here? Article 62 and 63?

i would like to compare article 62 and 63 and the religious color added to articles indeed non other than Ziaul Haq

But how many knows the crux of article 62 and 63? Lets see what these articles say



[62. Qualifications for membership of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament).

A person shall not be qualified to be elected or chosen as a member of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament) unless :-

(a) he is a citizen of Pakistan;

[64B][(b) he is, in the case of the National Assembly, not less than twenty -five years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any electoral roll in-

(i) any part of Pakistan, for election to a general seat or a seat reserved for non-Muslims; and

(ii) any area in a Province from which he seeks membership for election to a seat reserved for women.]


(c) he is, in the case of Senate, not less than thirty years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any area in a Province or, as the case may be, the Federal Capital or the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, from where he seeks membership;


(d) he is of good character and is not commonly known as one who violates Islamic Injunctions;

(e) he has adequate knowledge of Islamic teachings and practises obligatory duties prescribed by Islam as well as abstains from major sins ;

(f) he is sagacious, righteous and non-profligate and honest and ameen;

(g) he has not been convicted for a crime involving moral turpitude or for giving false evidence;

(h) he has not, after the establishment of Pakistan, worked against the integrity of the country or opposed the Ideology of Pakistan

Provided that the disqualifications specified in paragraphs (d) and (e) shall not apply to a person who is a non-Muslim, but such a person shall have good moral reputation; and

(i) he possesses such other qualifications as may be prescribed by Act of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament).]

--------------------------------------


Now can you guys see anything wrong about the above? this was already in force for all elections except the the bold part of d e and f.

A. Taking these into account how can one define a GOOD Charactered Muslim candidate? which school of though will give the certificate to the candidates?

B. Who will define the level of "Adequate knowledge of Islam" of the candidates? since there are dozens and dozens of interpretitions viz a viz different matters from different scholars.

C. What if a person is sagacious, righteous, honest (though its imposible even if you scane entire Pakistan) But lacks "dequate knowledge of Islam" ?

Just suppose if All in all the above characteristic qualities may meet by a single person out of millions of Pakistanis but what if that person lacks academic/ other qualifications as may be prescribed by Act of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament).


Do we even know that how these inserted in origional constitution of Pakistan ? none other than Ziaul Haq.

These were inserted in the constitution through Presidential Ordinance No. 14 of 1985 by Zia.


Now lets check what the origional constitution said


The article 62 from the original constitution of 1973 is as following

“62. Qualifications for membership of Parliament.– A person shall not be qualified to be elected or chosen as a member of Parliament unless:

(a) he is a citizen of Pakistan,

(b) he is, in the case of the National Assembly, not less than twenty-five years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any electoral roll for election to that Assembly;


(c) he is, in the case of the Senate, not less than thirty years of age and is enrolled as a voter in any area in a Province or, as the case may be, the Federal Capital or the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, from where he seeks membership; and

(d) he possess such other qualifications as may be prescribed by Act of Parliament.”

@haviZsultan, @Leader, @nuclearpak

hope they wont put me to trial for above opinion

I was more of a nonchalant observer of this march, neither truly supportive nor outright against it. I would have said the march achieved something if it hadn't been the mere crust of the pizza Zardari had given these protestors.

I think that Qadri sahab being new to major political dealings such as this gave in too easy. There was much more that could be gained and 3 days turned to 3 hours. Also assembly will be disolved a few days earlier and elections held a few days earlier? The next PM will be appointed with Qadri's views on the matter taken into account but he cannot force them to do anything. What difference has it really made?

You have done well to reveal that this is pretty much an eye-wash. In the eyes of those who went there Qadri gained something but those are only minor concessions which may have no real affect.

 

[Jango]

@Spring Onion, I completely agree with you. I wasn't going to put you on trial for that, I was going to commend you!!!

This is the same point I have been harping about for the past few days. Everything that was written down in the agreement is already in the constitution, and only matter is of implementation. And TuQ did not get any guarantees about implementation from the government.

BTW, a very interesting point you raised there that what will be the barometer for a good Muslim? And who will be judging authority?

These points do need to be seriously looked at at answered.

 

[Leader]

@nuclearpak @Spring Onion

zinda hai Zia, zinda hai !!


A legal matter is settled with help of spiritual principles, such is the state of mind of Muslim Scholars !! #Shame

 

[Fracker]

Text of long march declaration - thenews.com.pk

It's not too bad, Qadri sahab did manage to save some face. Granted PPP does implement a few of these things then he would have really achieved something

Another NRO or something? This Tahir was Against the Government or with them? Another drama and result is BullShit...