Tesla's Musk: New 'ludicrous' mode shoots Model S to 60 mph in 2.8 seconds

[Hamartia Antidote]

I think first will be cargo vehicles, like those that already operate in automated ports, but adapted for open road use.

I'm not sure if the public is initially going to be comfortable with a multi-ton truck driving on the highways/streets with nobody behind the wheel.

You are going to have to "sell them" on the tech by doing taxis first.

 

[Audio]

I'm not sure if the public is initially going to be comfortable with a multi-ton truck driving on the highways/streets with nobody behind the wheel.

You are going to have to "sell them" on the tech by doing taxis first.

Possibly, i'm just extrapolating from what is in use now.

 

[Providence]

Elon Musk is a guy who is not afraid of taking revolutionary steps. I revere him the most among all corporate heads !

 

[jamahir]

Pretty much all the gas we pump in cars has ethanol added to it.

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but that is the e10 ( less than 10 percent ethanol content ) rather than e85 ( 85 percent content ), so it doesn't matter towards economics change.

How much ethanol is in gasoline and how does it affect fuel economy? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

this ( Ethanol as a Transportation Fuel ) describes it even more widely...

What are the economics of ethanol compared to gasoline?

The cost of producing ethanol remains significantly higher than the cost of producing fuels from petroleum. The federal government, since 1978, has given tax incentives intended to make ethanol competitive with gasoline in the motor fuel marketplace. Continued progress with both conventional and advanced ethanol production technologies could someday result in ethanol production costs competitive with petroleum fuels.

1978... the oil industry must have forced the automotive industry to not produce the "flexi-fuel vehicle" components in large numbers.

further, from ( Ethanol Facts: Engine Performance | RFA: Renewable Fuels Association )...

Ethanol Facts: Engine Performance

Ethanol, an alcohol fuel, provides high quality, high octane for exceptional engine performance and reduced emissions. Ethanol has been used in cars since Henry Ford designed his 1908 Model T to operate on alcohol. Trillions of miles have been driven on ethanol-blended fuel since 1980. In fact, several teams in national and international racing competitions use ethanol because of its high octane and exceptional performance. Since 2010, nearly all gasoline sold in the United States has contained 10% ethanol.

@hinduguy ^^^

Capitalism is about competition, in which you and me get fair chance. Its about acknowledging human behaviour (what motivates most people, why people do stuff) and channeling human energy and emotions towards constructive end.

capitalism is about exploitation of workers and consumers for immediate gains, simple as that... look at the extremest example of capitalism, india... generally, where is the fair chance there for anyone constructive??

do you know that the indian software/services industry has not a single employees union because the industry heads got the government long back to allow them this unjust practice?? now, what has the very much capitalist indian software/services industry given to the world if we were to go by your words...

in which you and me get fair chance. Its about acknowledging human behaviour (what motivates most people, why people do stuff) and channeling human energy and emotions towards constructive end.

 

[livingdead]

@jamahir show me where it says software industry does not ALLOW unions. As I understand, they wont join, simply because high demand of their skills, usually employers poach them.
Just like CEOs dont form* unions, coz they are always in demand.

*: edited @jamahir

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir show me where it says software industry does not ALLOW unions. As I understand, they wont join, simply because high demand of their skills, usually employers poach them.

1. 99 percent of people employed in the indian software/services industry have absolutely no real skills at all... bangalore is called "coolie valley" for a reason.

2. to start a employee union requires (a). a real leader kind of person, (b). people who are concerned about their fellow human... both things are lacking in the software/services industry... i tried to create a union in a company i did job in last year... i know what i am talking about... most employees are in the early 20's age bracket or were that in the 90's and carried on, and they are too selfish and anti-socialist to start a union by themselves, and someone told me that the software industry got a crooked understanding with some previous government to not encourage/allow union.

3. look at the mass expulsions from ibm and tcs that happened last year... there was no individual company union to assist the suddenly removed people and there was no pan-software/services-industry.

Just like CEOs dont for unions, coz they are always in demand.

i didn't understand.

 

[livingdead]

@jamahir were you deliberately lying then, when you said industry bosses dont allow software engineers to join union?
existing unions can always come to campus and recruit people. They can even stop the business if they get enough support.

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir were you deliberately lying then, when you said industry bosses dont allow software engineers to join union?

i added this in previous post a few moments ago... "and someone told me that the software industry got a crooked understanding with some previous government to not encourage/allow union."

 

[livingdead]

i added this in previous post a few moments ago... "and someone told me that the software industry got a crooked understanding with some previous government to not encourage/allow union."

thats not true either but at least you are presenting it as opinion.
When employer-employee power balance is in favour of employees, the dont need to form a collective to bargain. Because individually they got massive bargaining power already.
In such instances, just a threat to quit the company can solve half the issues of an employee. If employee turnover is high, a company will try every trick to retain employee, prividing ever increasing salary and other goodies.

This is going to continue in skill shortage jobs.

 

[jamahir]

Just like CEOs dont form* unions, coz they are always in demand.

ceo unions don't exist because they are the middle party, with not only higher salaries than the other ranks but also are the medium of exploitative demands from the company board to the other ranks.

in my company, the local manager was the exploitative idiot, helped to a extent by the assistant manager... some of the management were good people but unaware of the bad conditions in my local office.

When employer-employee power balance is in favour of employees, the dont need to form a collective to bargain. Because individually they got massive bargaining power already.

individual bargaining power exists rarely... the typical infosys engineer does not dare raise a squeak.

In such instances, just a threat to quit the company can solve half the issues of an employee. If employee turnover is high, a company will try every trick to retain employee, prividing ever increasing salary and other goodies.

your last sentence is impossible in indian software/services industry for lower ranks because, (a). the entrants will have just finished college and will be scared of "work" environment and will especially be scared of telling parents that they have been removed from job because they dared to demand, so no situation here of oliver twist asking for more, (b). the managers have to employ a simple threat - "if you should decide to leave, i have a hundred more candidates for your job position" - you should think of that threat in indian environment.

This is going to continue in skill shortage jobs.

again i say, software/services are semi-skilled work.

 

[livingdead]

ceo unions don't exist because they are the middle party, with not only higher salaries than the other ranks but also are the medium of exploitative demands from the company board to the other ranks.

in my company, the local manager was the exploitative idiot, helped to a extent by the assistant manager... some of the management were good people but unaware of the bad conditions in my local office.



individual bargaining power exists rarely... the typical infosys engineer does not dare raise a squeak.



your last sentence is impossible in indian software/services industry for lower ranks because, (a). the entrants will have just finished college and will be scared of "work" environment and will especially be scared of telling parents that they have been removed from job because they dared to demand, so no situation here of oliver twist asking for more, (b). the managers have to employ a simple threat - "if you should decide to leave, i have a hundred more candidates for your job position" - you should think of that threat in indian environment.



again i say, software/services are semi-skilled work.

so, you want union for people who are basically trainees and form a small portion of workforce. I agree.
Quite a climbdown from earlier assertion. lolz.

 

[jamahir]

so, you want union for people who are basically trainees and form a small portion of workforce. I agree.
Quite a climbdown from earlier assertion. lolz.

1. i did not say only the trainees of now... i also mentioned many of those who were trainees in the 90's and then carried on with the no-demand-for-rights cowardly and selfish attitude... this latter group will be managers now.

2. being trainees does not give anyone the right to exploit them like zamindars did with bonded labor... these trainees and those experienced in industry of five to seven years form the majority in the industry but numbers shouldn't matter in case of demanding of rights... you are right to speak for unions for them.

3. having a union in a capitalist system is a right, a internationally recognized right... but this must also be a right to be demanded by the employees... if they have "may day" pass by every year without sight of a union in their office, then it is also they at fault.

4. and faulting these trainees and ex-trainees for being semi-skilled and incompetent is only partially correct because their entire industry itself ( bangalore, poona, hyderabad, gurgaon, madras, delhi ) is frivolous, in fact useless... as i have asked again and again in pdf pages, has there been a single microprocessor design or operating system out of any hierarchy of the industry ( trainees, ex-trainees, ceo, team leader etc ) especially when they are at least two million and the industry+academics goes back 40 years??

with this explanation, you should say again if i made a climbdown or not.

 

[livingdead]

1. i did not say only the trainees of now... i also mentioned many of those who were trainees in the 90's and then carried on with the no-demand-for-rights cowardly and selfish attitude... this latter group will be managers now.

2. being trainees does not give anyone the right to exploit them like zamindars did with bonded labor... these trainees and those experienced in industry of five to seven years form the majority in the industry but numbers shouldn't matter in case of demanding of rights... you are right to speak for unions for them.

3. having a union in a capitalist system is a right, a internationally recognized right... but this must also be a right to be demanded by the employees... if they have "may day" pass by every year without sight of a union in their office, then it is also they at fault.

4. and faulting these trainees and ex-trainees for being semi-skilled and incompetent is only partially correct because their entire industry itself ( bangalore, poona, hyderabad, gurgaon, madras, delhi ) is frivolous, in fact useless... as i have asked again and again in pdf pages, has there been a single microprocessor design or operating system out of any hierarchy of the industry ( trainees, ex-trainees, ceo, team leader etc ) especially when they are at least two million and the industry+academics goes back 40 years??

with this explanation, you should say again if i made a climbdown or not.

so you want union or not? I think they should be able to join and as far as I know, there is no law preventing them from doing that. Whether they are skilled/semi-skilled smart/stupid does not take away that right.
Yeah, exploitative labour is wrong, but many trainees are too eager to please, because you want to learn as fast as possible. Sometimes people work just for free food and AC... especially in summer, you cant fault that logic.
What is 'useful' is an opinion, I respect your opinion. I dont agree. For example an abstract art installation is useful for me, frivelous expense for others.
I dont subscribe to utilatarianism btw.
Utilitarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SQ8]

I need this car. Im all for practical sports.. and my previous obsession was the Jaguar XFR but this might just convince me to change that.

 

[Arya Desa]

Back in my day Tesla when 0-60 in 3.1 seconds and that's the way I like it.