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DEBDUTTA BHATTACHARJEE

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In an instant, people forgot that Kapil was an icon in his own rights and one of the greatest all-rounders the game has ever witnessed and also the captian who led India to its first ever World Cup crown in 1983 - a victory that completely changed the way cricket would be seen in India, and without which, perhaps the game wouldn't have found such a favour with the people that Tendulkar could be raised to cult status.

Expectedly, there were angry outbursts on Twitter, as these tweets prove:

Let's examine what Kapil said and see if we can put up a defence for the legendary all-rounder. Kapil felt that Tendulkar "didn't do justice to his talent", but what perhaps created the greatest controversy was his statement that Tendulkar "did not know how to make double hundreds, triple hundreds and 400, though he had the ability to scale such peaks".

Here, what was missed by the hyperactive Tendulkar supporters and admirers was that Kapil's words may not have actually been jibes at Tendulkar, though it is true that Kapil could have chosen his words better. It is a bit difficult to imagine that a batsman of Tendulkar's class, ability and pedigree didn't know how to convert his many hundreds into bigger scores, but one can't deny the fact that in 200 Tests, Tendulkar could not score even a 250, let alone a triple century. Surely, you expect a batsman who had been compared with Sir Donald Bradman, by none other than the Australian great himself, to score more double hundreds than the six he has, especially when his contemporaries Kumar Sangakkara and Brian Lara scored many more. Sir Don, whom Tendulkar had been likened to has double the number of double centuries Tendulkar has in Tests. Sir Don also has two triple hundreds to his name, and so has Tendulkar's contemporaries Brian Lara, Chris Gayle and his good friend and teammate Virender Sehwag.

Tendulkar was certainly not a lesser batsman than any of his contemporaries. In fact, he has been widely regarded as the greatest of his generation and next only to Sir Don. True as it may be, was a Test triple hundred too big an ask for him?

Without a doubt, Tendulkar had the technique, but did he have the patience and the temperament to convert a big score into a really big one? Wasn't it a fact that often he would be a victim of soft dismissals after getting to a milestone? According to Kapil, Tendulkar "was there to get his hundred and that's it". Did Tendulkar's appetite suddenly die after he got to a hundred? When a player of such calibre takes almost ten years since his debut to score his first Test double century, you know there is something amiss.

For sometime, Tendulkar was being compared to Brian Lara, though in course of time, he raced past Lara, if anything, in terms of the sheer number of runs scored. But could Tendulkar have played a gruelling 377-ball 120 to save a Test match like Lara? It is this enormous patience that also helped Lara score a jaw-dropping 400 in a Test match or an even more surreal 501 in a first class match. Did Tendulkar, for all his centuries lack that patience - a very important ingredient of batting in Tests?

To say Tendulkar did not do justice to his talent may be a stretch, but it's a fact that he was capable of even bigger achievements with his sea of talent. That is what Kapil may have meant and if that was indeed the case, it was a recognition of Tendulkar's immense abilities.

Kapil knows very well the monumental feats that Tendulkar has achieved in his career. To still say that Tendulkar could have achieved more is paying a glowing compliment which was misconstrued as a barb. Also in any case, even if Kapil would not have thought too highly of Tendulkar as a cricketer, he is entitled to his opinion and shouldn't have been pilloried as he was. A healthy debate is always welcome and if one can provide reasons for his thesis, there will be enough reason to listen. Indeed, Tendulkar is also human and every human has his infirmities. Tendulkar also had them. We can't muzzle a voice for pointing them out.

Kapil may have a point when he said Tendulkar wasn't as "ruthless" as the West Indian legend Vivian Richards. Tendulkar did come across as being a bit too circumspect with his stroke-making, especially in the latter part of his career. However, I do not subscribe to Kapil's view that Tendulkar should have played more like Sehwag to be (even) more successful. Every batsman has his own way of playing. We all know Sehwag wasn't exactly a batting technician like Rahul Dravid, and his footwork at the crease was virtually non-existent. He relied more on his incredible hand-eye coordination and balance to score those tonnes of runs. Tendulkar's technique, however, was pretty speckless. Strangely enough, neither Dravid, nor Tendulkar has a Test triple century to his name, while Sehwag has four double and two triple centuries.

The reaction to Kapil's statements on Tendulkar shows how we are growing increasingly intolerant to a contrary view, conveniently forgetting that every view has a right to get expressed and debated upon. We are simply not ready to accept a challenge to what we hold to be the gospel truth. Why didn't we raise our voices when Tendulkar questioned Kapil's coaching abilities? If Kapil "disappointed" as a coach, Tendulkar didn't exactly cover himself in glory as the captain of the Indian team. Kapil had the courage to be straightforward with his views on Tendulkar, at the cost of his popularity, and his views were not totally without merit. Let's give Kapil credit as he certainly deserves some.

Tendulkar is no god. Kapil Dev is bang on
 
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How many of you guys (especially indians) believe that AB Develiers is a greater batsman than Tendulkar?

Please, be honest.

I am being 100% honest---I haven't seen a batsman like Develiers in my entire life!! This man is like MESSI of Cricket--unprecedentedly talented, consistent, and makes great achievements look like "normality" when it comes to him.

What do you guys say?
 
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You ask tendulkar, he will say "Kapil is Right".... matter over...

How many of you guys (especially indians) believe that AB Develiers is a greater batsman than Tendulkar?

Please, be honest.

I am being 100% honest---I haven't seen a batsman like Develiers in my entire life!! This man is like MESSI of Cricket--unprecedentedly talented, consistent, and makes great achievements look like "normality" when it comes to him.

What do you guys say?

There is no doubt that he is one of the most deadly batsmen ever played cricket...... But then Both cannot be compared at all....
 
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DEBDUTTA BHATTACHARJEE

@thinkingdeva

In an instant, people forgot that Kapil was an icon in his own rights and one of the greatest all-rounders the game has ever witnessed and also the captian who led India to its first ever World Cup crown in 1983 - a victory that completely changed the way cricket would be seen in India, and without which, perhaps the game wouldn't have found such a favour with the people that Tendulkar could be raised to cult status.

Expectedly, there were angry outbursts on Twitter, as these tweets prove:

Let's examine what Kapil said and see if we can put up a defence for the legendary all-rounder. Kapil felt that Tendulkar "didn't do justice to his talent", but what perhaps created the greatest controversy was his statement that Tendulkar "did not know how to make double hundreds, triple hundreds and 400, though he had the ability to scale such peaks".

Here, what was missed by the hyperactive Tendulkar supporters and admirers was that Kapil's words may not have actually been jibes at Tendulkar, though it is true that Kapil could have chosen his words better. It is a bit difficult to imagine that a batsman of Tendulkar's class, ability and pedigree didn't know how to convert his many hundreds into bigger scores, but one can't deny the fact that in 200 Tests, Tendulkar could not score even a 250, let alone a triple century. Surely, you expect a batsman who had been compared with Sir Donald Bradman, by none other than the Australian great himself, to score more double hundreds than the six he has, especially when his contemporaries Kumar Sangakkara and Brian Lara scored many more. Sir Don, whom Tendulkar had been likened to has double the number of double centuries Tendulkar has in Tests. Sir Don also has two triple hundreds to his name, and so has Tendulkar's contemporaries Brian Lara, Chris Gayle and his good friend and teammate Virender Sehwag.

Tendulkar was certainly not a lesser batsman than any of his contemporaries. In fact, he has been widely regarded as the greatest of his generation and next only to Sir Don. True as it may be, was a Test triple hundred too big an ask for him?

Without a doubt, Tendulkar had the technique, but did he have the patience and the temperament to convert a big score into a really big one? Wasn't it a fact that often he would be a victim of soft dismissals after getting to a milestone? According to Kapil, Tendulkar "was there to get his hundred and that's it". Did Tendulkar's appetite suddenly die after he got to a hundred? When a player of such calibre takes almost ten years since his debut to score his first Test double century, you know there is something amiss.

For sometime, Tendulkar was being compared to Brian Lara, though in course of time, he raced past Lara, if anything, in terms of the sheer number of runs scored. But could Tendulkar have played a gruelling 377-ball 120 to save a Test match like Lara? It is this enormous patience that also helped Lara score a jaw-dropping 400 in a Test match or an even more surreal 501 in a first class match. Did Tendulkar, for all his centuries lack that patience - a very important ingredient of batting in Tests?

To say Tendulkar did not do justice to his talent may be a stretch, but it's a fact that he was capable of even bigger achievements with his sea of talent. That is what Kapil may have meant and if that was indeed the case, it was a recognition of Tendulkar's immense abilities.

Kapil knows very well the monumental feats that Tendulkar has achieved in his career. To still say that Tendulkar could have achieved more is paying a glowing compliment which was misconstrued as a barb. Also in any case, even if Kapil would not have thought too highly of Tendulkar as a cricketer, he is entitled to his opinion and shouldn't have been pilloried as he was. A healthy debate is always welcome and if one can provide reasons for his thesis, there will be enough reason to listen. Indeed, Tendulkar is also human and every human has his infirmities. Tendulkar also had them. We can't muzzle a voice for pointing them out.

Kapil may have a point when he said Tendulkar wasn't as "ruthless" as the West Indian legend Vivian Richards. Tendulkar did come across as being a bit too circumspect with his stroke-making, especially in the latter part of his career. However, I do not subscribe to Kapil's view that Tendulkar should have played more like Sehwag to be (even) more successful. Every batsman has his own way of playing. We all know Sehwag wasn't exactly a batting technician like Rahul Dravid, and his footwork at the crease was virtually non-existent. He relied more on his incredible hand-eye coordination and balance to score those tonnes of runs. Tendulkar's technique, however, was pretty speckless. Strangely enough, neither Dravid, nor Tendulkar has a Test triple century to his name, while Sehwag has four double and two triple centuries.

The reaction to Kapil's statements on Tendulkar shows how we are growing increasingly intolerant to a contrary view, conveniently forgetting that every view has a right to get expressed and debated upon. We are simply not ready to accept a challenge to what we hold to be the gospel truth. Why didn't we raise our voices when Tendulkar questioned Kapil's coaching abilities? If Kapil "disappointed" as a coach, Tendulkar didn't exactly cover himself in glory as the captain of the Indian team. Kapil had the courage to be straightforward with his views on Tendulkar, at the cost of his popularity, and his views were not totally without merit. Let's give Kapil credit as he certainly deserves some.

Tendulkar is no god. Kapil Dev is bang on
@Horus Please take this thread to sports section I accidentally posted it here
 
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Tendular was a run machine but a selfish one. He did not win matches for India. Look at DeVilliers, Ponting, Waugh brothers, Sangakarra. These batsmen are lesser achievers in terms of runs but look at the impact they had for their teams. We cant say this about Tendulkar.
 
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How many of you guys (especially indians) believe that AB Develiers is a greater batsman than Tendulkar?

Please, be honest.

I am being 100% honest---I haven't seen a batsman like Develiers in my entire life!! This man is like MESSI of Cricket--unprecedentedly talented, consistent, and makes great achievements look like "normality" when it comes to him.

What do you guys say?
How will you rate Viv Richards and Sir Don Bradman against AB Develiers? Sachin will be always considered the greatest sportsman of all time because of his on field and off field behaviour. Batting prowess U cant match Sachin and remember he had to face the greatest fast bowling and spin attack( Akram, Akthar, Mcgrath, Donald, Warne , Lee , Bond , Waqar , Saqulain , Murali etc) AB doesnt have that compulsion today and the T20 has made it more batsman friendly game.
I do love AB innovation but he lacks and struggles against good Spin attack.
Regards.

Tendular was a run machine but a selfish one. He did not win matches for India. Look at DeVilliers, Ponting, Waugh brothers, Sangakarra. These batsmen are lesser achievers in terms of runs but look at the impact they had for their teams. We cant say this about Tendulkar.
Sachin has saved Indian Team more than anyone , just a ill informed statistics. Give me one example where he has acted selfish? I can give u many for his selfless act.
 
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Sachin plays more for individual records than for the team. To hit his 100th century he waited waited waited couldn't make that against big teams like south africa or england, finally hit his 100th century against bangladesh and retired from cricket. Stupids calling him the god of cricket.

When murali had 792 test wickets he announced that he is going to play his last test match tomorrow. In his last test he took 8 wickets and reached the milestone of 800 wickets. That's legendary, what sachin did is selfishness...
 
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How will you rate Viv Richards and Sir Don Bradman against AB Develiers?

AB Develiers is probably more skilled than both of them.

I know its hard. The "legends" constructed remains in our heads. For example, in Soccer--those who are amateur fans regard Maradona/Peele as better---why? Because these kids have never seen them play but only heard how greatest they were. However, anyone with actual sense of sports can tell that Messi is superior footballer than Maradona/Peele by a long margin.

Similarly, Bradman, Garry Sobbers, and Viv Richards were true geniuses of their time--but AB Develiers might be a greater batsman than them. His skill level is unmatched today.

And AB isn't "innovation". He is a proper batsman with 360 degree coverage of the ground. His average is 52+ for 8000+ runs AND his strike rate is 100.12!!!!!!!!

Tendular was one of the greats...just like Richards, Inzamam, Miandad, Sangakara, Lara, and so on.

AB Develiers seem to be more naturally talented than all of the above. Lets see how its career goes.
 
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Sachin plays more for individual records than for the team. To hit his 100th century he waited waited waited couldn't make that against big teams like south africa or england, finally hit his 100th century against bangladesh and retired from cricket. Stupids calling him the god of cricket.

When murali had 792 test wickets he announced that he is going to play his last test match tomorrow. In his last test he took 8 wickets and reached the milestone of 800 wickets. That's legendary, what sachin did is selfishness...
bs to the core! carry on.
 
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Tendular was a run machine but a selfish one. He did not win matches for India. Look at DeVilliers, Ponting, Waugh brothers, Sangakarra. These batsmen are lesser achievers in terms of runs but look at the impact they had for their teams. We cant say this about Tendulkar.
sachin didnt won matches for India?? :rofl::rofl: did you remembered how he tackled and attacked mighty pak bowlers in world up and won matches for India :lol::lol:
 
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You ask tendulkar, he will say "Kapil is Right".... matter over...



There is no doubt that he is one of the most deadly batsmen ever played cricket...... But then Both cannot be compared at all....


u are right u can never compare a defensive Tendulker with a Match winner like ABD... and bar Indians everyone in the world will accept that Tendulker was a boring batsman while ADB is a complete entertainer..
 
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Tendulkar is an Indian god at best. Rest of the world doesn't believe in Human gods.

What good was he when he had a golden duck handed to him by Shoaib Akhtar?

And about Kapil Dev, that man is old, a bygone era. His comments are irrelevant in today's cricket world.
 
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To compare Sachin and AB, one has to look at the kind of bowlers they faced. Sachin in his entire career of 24 years faced some of the greatest bowlers the world has ever produced. (Not sure though , might be Gavaskar faced tougher bowlers), but the point is Sachin had tougher opponents than AB surely.

And it would be premature to compare both of them, remember Sachin is still 10000 runs ahead of AB in the ODIs, which is huge and has a higher average at tests.

Tendulkar is an Indian god at best. Rest of the world doesn't believe in Human gods.

What good was he when he had a golden duck handed to him by Shoaib Akhtar?

And about Kapil Dev, that man is old, a bygone era. His comments are irrelevant in today's cricket world.

The title of God of cricket was not given by any Indian, it was given by Mathew Hayden.

Secondly, Sachin had a career spanning 24 years, which phase of his carrer are you talking about ? If you call his cricket boring, do watch the videos of 90s, when Indian cricket was struggling through its worst phase there was just one bastmen who stood up. Later came the Dravids and Gangulis.

And regarding the golden duck, did you forget World Cup 2003??
 
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u are right u can never compare a defensive Tendulker with a Match winner like ABD... and bar Indians everyone in the world will accept that Tendulker was a boring batsman while ADB is a complete entertainer..

Entertainment and Boring is a relative term......

What good was he when he had a golden duck handed to him by Shoaib Akhtar?

So according to you, Since he has a golden duck in his name He is not good????
 
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Eyeball grabbing sensational headline...Kapil didn't exactly say the way it sounds by reading the title. Anyone would agree with him when he says Tendulkar did not do justice to the kinda talent he had at his disposal..
 
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