Taliban mock at US as Afghan war enters 12th year

[Zarvan]

KABUL: America's longest war entered its 12th year on Sunday, with the anniversary marked by a Taliban statement claiming that Nato forces are "fleeing Afghanistan" in "humiliation and disgrace".

The US led the invasion on October 7, 2001 to topple the Taliban government for harbouring al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden after the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

The Taliban were quickly routed, but launched an insurgency that grew in strength over the years until Nato had some 130,000 troops from 50 countries defending the Western-backed government of President Hamid Karzai.

The troops have now begun pulling out and all foreign combat forces will be gone by the end of 2014 according to a withdrawal schedule agreed by the US and Nato.

"With the help of Allah, the valiant Afghans under the ****** leadership of Islamic Emirate defeated the military might and numerous strategies of America and Nato alliance," the Taliban said in a statement on Sunday.

"And now after 11 years of unceasing terror, tyranny, crimes and savagery, they are fleeing Afghanistan with such humiliation and disgrace that they are struggling to provide an explanation," the statement added.

A total of 3,199 Nato soldiers have been killed in the war, more than 2,000 of them Americans. This year, official statistics showed that deaths in the Afghan security forces are running five times higher than those for Nato, as the Afghans take on increasing responsibilities before the Western withdrawal.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/south-asia/Taliban-mock-at-US-as-Afghan-war-enters-12th-year/articleshow/16717639.cms

 

[OrionHunter]

"And now after 11 years of unceasing terror, tyranny, crimes and savagery......."

But how about the Taliban themselves? They indulged in unceasing terror, tyranny, crimes and savagery when they were in power in Afghanistan. They even destroyed the Buddha statues at Bamiyan! Pot calling the kettle black?

 

[amidamaru]

the valiant Afghans under the ****** leadership of Islamic Emirate

****** = f...ing?

 

[RazPaK]

But how about the Taliban themselves? They indulged in unceasing terror, tyranny, crimes and savagery when they were in power in Afghanistan. They even destroyed the Buddha statues at Bamiyan! Pot calling the kettle black?

They tried to justify their attacks on the Buddha statue as an act of protest. Foreigners were investing to safeguard the statue while neglecting the starving orphans and imposing economic sanctions. Their reasoning was why should they try to preserve their past, when their future is doomed.

 

[Android]

They tried to justify their attacks on the Buddha statue as an act of protest. Foreigners were investing to safeguard the statue while neglecting the starving orphans and imposing economic sanctions. Their reasoning was why should they try to preserve their past, when their future is doomed.

suppose if the foreigners were only investing in some historic mosque and ignoring their starving population would they have destroyed that mosque too???

****** = f...ing?

its probably jih-adi

 

[Asian.Century]

Interesting news...we all confirmed UK, US other Western Countries lie & lie shamelessly.... defeated at demoralised etc etc

BBC, CNN etc etc are propaganda pieces to misled ppl.

 

[Cherokee]

They tried to justify their attacks on the Buddha statue as an act of protest. Foreigners were investing to safeguard the statue while neglecting the starving orphans and imposing economic sanctions. Their reasoning was why should they try to preserve their past, when their future is doomed.

They should have started by killing their elders going by your Tangent of thinking . Why to preserve the past when the future is doomed .

 

[RazPaK]

They should have started by killing their elders going by your Tangent of thinking . Why to preserve the past when the future is doomed .

Not my thinking.

It was their thinking.


Watch and learn:

 

[Cherokee]

Not my thinking.

It was their thinking.


Watch and learn:

They should have started by killing their elders going by their Tangent of thinking . Why to preserve the past when the future is doomed .

 

[zamindawari]

They tried to justify their attacks on the Buddha statue as an act of protest. Foreigners were investing to safeguard the statue while neglecting the starving orphans and imposing economic sanctions. Their reasoning was why should they try to preserve their past, when their future is doomed.

Jazakallahu khairun for speaking the truth in this matter. The ultimate decision regarding this issue was made purely as a political statement to the Swedish government. Certainly, the fact that the targets were idols and symbolic of shirk was taken into consideration and played a definitive role in the decision. Nonetheless, the event intended as purely political. The destruction of these idols was executed during the height of famine. The Ambassador of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, publicly stated that the destruction of the statues was carried out during the famine after Swedish government pledged money to restore the statues but refused to allow it to be used to aid Afghan children. Hashimi is reported as saying: "When the Afghan head council asked them to provide the money to feed the children instead of fixing the statues, they refused and said, 'No, the money is just for the statues, not for the children'. Herein, we made the decision to destroy the statues". In 1425 (2004), in an interview to Pakistani journalist Muhammad Shehzad, Amir ul Momineen Mullah Muhammad Omar said the following, "I did not want to destroy the Bamiyan Buddha. In fact, some foreigners came to me and said they would like to conduct the repair work of the Bamiyan Buddha that had been slightly damaged due to rains. This shocked me. I thought, these callous people have no regard for thousands of living human beings - the Afghans who are dying of hunger, but they are so concerned about non-living objects like the Buddha. This was extremely deplorable. That is why I ordered its destruction. Had they come for humanitarian work, I would have never ordered the Buddhas' destruction."

 

[RazPaK]

Jazakallahu khairun for speaking the truth in this matter. The ultimate decision regarding this issue was made purely as a political statement to the Swedish government. Certainly, the fact that the targets were idols and symbolic of shirk was taken into consideration and played a definitive role in the decision. Nonetheless, the event intended as purely political. The destruction of these idols was executed during the height of famine. The Ambassador of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, publicly stated that the destruction of the statues was carried out during the famine after Swedish government pledged money to restore the statues but refused to allow it to be used to aid Afghan children. Hashimi is reported as saying: "When the Afghan head council asked them to provide the money to feed the children instead of fixing the statues, they refused and said, 'No, the money is just for the statues, not for the children'. Herein, we made the decision to destroy the statues". In 1425 (2004), in an interview to Pakistani journalist Muhammad Shehzad, Amir ul Momineen Mullah Muhammad Omar said the following, "I did not want to destroy the Bamiyan Buddha. In fact, some foreigners came to me and said they would like to conduct the repair work of the Bamiyan Buddha that had been slightly damaged due to rains. This shocked me. I thought, these callous people have no regard for thousands of living human beings - the Afghans who are dying of hunger, but they are so concerned about non-living objects like the Buddha. This was extremely deplorable. That is why I ordered its destruction. Had they come for humanitarian work, I would have never ordered the Buddhas' destruction."

In this regard, I can totally understand the Taliban's view point. The people of Afghanistan should have been helped instead of being sanctioned.

Americans treated Afghan people as pawns and dogs, but in America you will not see a single American kick their dog.


The Taliban government at the time made an effort to reach out to the international arena and were willing to work with all nations, while western governments were just not interested.

Afghans were only useful as long as they were serving American interests.

 

[CENTCOM]

It is no surprise that the bitter enemies of the nation are trying to save face by mocking our efforts and progress. Today, Afghanistan continues to head towards a safe and bright future. The attacks on 9/11 left us with no choice but to go after the miscreants responsible for murdering thousands on our soil. Our government had the responsibility of making sure that their network is completely dismantled, and these terrorists no longer have the capability of orchestrating such attacks in the future. We have been successful at dismantling Al-Qaeda, and Taliban no longer have the ability to harbor such terrorist groups. Afghanistan is no longer the playground for these terrorists to conduct their terrorist activities throughout the world. Our efforts have made it possible for the people of Afghanistan to experience a democratically elected government. Some of the changes that have taken place were simply unimaginable over a decade ago under their dictatorship. So, is it really a surprise to find these terrorists bitter on sidelines?
We are not saying that our job is done, but there is no reason for us to be pessimistic about Afghanistan’s future. We are cautious of the remaining few that continue to resist, and we therefore have committed to leaving Afghanistan with all the necessary tools and training to independently protect itself in the near future. The draw down has begun, but we will continue to assist the ANSF until necessary. We are not rushing our exit! Please keep in mind that we would not risk years of hard work and sacrifices by leaving an improper structure.

We restate what the former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, said not long ago:

“The Taliban's gains on the battlefield have been reversed. They've been unable to regain any of the territory that they've lost. Violence levels in populated areas have decreased significantly. Al Qaida has been denied safe haven, and obviously its leadership has been decimated. The Afghan national security forces have become more capable and expanded dramatically, growing from roughly 150,000 in November 2008 to more than 330,000 today, with the goal of going to 352,000 very soon. Most notably, we have begun the transition to Afghan security and responsibility. And we've moved decisively toward an Afghanistan that can secure and govern itself. And that is the fundamental mission that we've sought to accomplish.”

Ali Khan
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

 

[Vinod2070]

But how about the Taliban themselves? They indulged in unceasing terror, tyranny, crimes and savagery when they were in power in Afghanistan. They even destroyed the Buddha statues at Bamiyan! Pot calling the kettle black?

Talibunny cowards had their a*se handed over. They ran like the cowards they were and are only good for blwoing up girl schools and throwing acid on school girls.

Americans "khadkaoed" them as long as they wanted to and are now going back when they want to. The most likely outcome now is a division of Afghanistan along ethnic lines that may be quite messy.

 

[gambit]

Jazakallahu khairun for speaking the truth in this matter. The ultimate decision regarding this issue was made purely as a political statement to the Swedish government. Certainly, the fact that the targets were idols and symbolic of shirk was taken into consideration and played a definitive role in the decision. Nonetheless, the event intended as purely political. The destruction of these idols was executed during the height of famine. The Ambassador of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, publicly stated that the destruction of the statues was carried out during the famine after Swedish government pledged money to restore the statues but refused to allow it to be used to aid Afghan children. Hashimi is reported as saying: "When the Afghan head council asked them to provide the money to feed the children instead of fixing the statues, they refused and said, 'No, the money is just for the statues, not for the children'. Herein, we made the decision to destroy the statues". In 1425 (2004), in an interview to Pakistani journalist Muhammad Shehzad, Amir ul Momineen Mullah Muhammad Omar said the following, "I did not want to destroy the Bamiyan Buddha. In fact, some foreigners came to me and said they would like to conduct the repair work of the Bamiyan Buddha that had been slightly damaged due to rains. This shocked me. I thought, these callous people have no regard for thousands of living human beings - the Afghans who are dying of hunger, but they are so concerned about non-living objects like the Buddha. This was extremely deplorable. That is why I ordered its destruction. Had they come for humanitarian work, I would have never ordered the Buddhas' destruction."

Really...???

Prevalence of malnutrition in southern Afghanistan 'shocking' | World news | guardian.co.uk

A major problem is attitudes to breast feeding, according to UN nutrition specialist Elham Monsef. Women are often told breast milk is not good enough or find it hard to nurse, so infants are given everything from tea and water, which have no nutritional value, to formula milk that is over-diluted or made with dirty water.

No one bought that argument then, and no one is buying it now.

Did the destruction of the statues compelled foreign aid to divert its money? Corruption have no role in the discussion? Ever heard of the budgeting process where some money and non-financial aid are allocated and should not be deviated from their intended destination? Despite their well intentions, countries that are willing to donate aid, financial or otherwise, are ever suspicious of any demand to reallocate aid to financial, as if non-financial aid are immune from corruption in the first place.

 

[zamindawari]

gambit, yes really. However, I can assure you that no one is concerned with whether or not populations on the other side of the planet "bought" the reasoning. The facts remain and debate is inconsequential. Afghanistan is not India, not Pakistan - your approval is of no value and your rationale is void. You would demonstrate equal hostility and distrust in any government that was not, essentially, a U.S. sock puppet politically and economically. Go bark at someone else's door.

Talibunny cowards had their a*se handed over. They ran like the cowards they were and are only good for blwoing up girl schools and throwing acid on school girls.

Americans "khadkaoed" them as long as they wanted to and are now going back when they want to. The most likely outcome now is a division of Afghanistan along ethnic lines that may be quite messy.

I find this scholar's verbal diarrhea rather charming. Amidst his emotional, juvenile, provocative ranting he makes an undoubtedly ironic point (unintentionally I'm certain). He mentions Afghanistan's division along ethnic lines, a fate that certainly will not happen in his lifetime. He attempts to attribute this heinous crime of acid-throwing to Taliban. Ironic in that he fails to mention that almost every documented case of such instance has occurred in northern and western Afghanistan in traditionally non-Pashtun regions with heavy and widespread social resistance to Taliban governance, areas virtually devoid of any Taliban activity. The instance documented in Kandahar some years ago where school girls were targetted by unknown assailants on motorbikes is still, to this day, under question as to who these men were and what their motives were. What is known is that the Emirate emphasized having no responsibility in orchestrating the act on any level.

The attacks on 9/11 left us with no choice but to go after the miscreants responsible for murdering thousands on our soil. Our government had the responsibility of making sure that their network is completely dismantled, and these terrorists no longer have the capability of orchestrating such attacks in the future. We have been successful at dismantling Al-Qaeda, and Taliban no longer have the ability to harbor such terrorist groups.

Uncle Tom, assuming that the official story peddled by your media is true in every regard, there may be some problems with your alleged "logic". What happened to the WTC on Septemenber 11 was a tragedy and crime of immense proportions that is unforgivable in Islam and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has always condemned this crime from the very moment it occurred and pledged to lauch a full investigation into Usama ibn Laden - see below:
[video]youtube.com/watch?v=s2nJ_IIaYPg[/video]

However, when you insist that the U.S. had "no choice but to go after" those responsible, Afghanistan may have strategically been a poor starting point as the plot was allegedly born in a Malaysian hotel by a panel of indviduals to whom not even one was of Afghan origin! If Usama ibn Laden was infact the actual issue, why did the United States fail to provide one piece of evidence linking this man to the event? If Afghan soil was being used to plot or train in any capacity for terrorist acts against foreign nations, the Emirate was fully prepared to launch an investigation and shut down such operations and this is very well-documented. The U.S. refused to cooperate with an investigation, refused to provide evidence, refused to embrace any level of diplomacy. Instead, when asked for evidence they quintessentially told the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan to go stick it and chose to spit upon the sovereignity of Afghanistan and launch a military invasion as their first choice solution. I understand this is normal in some parts of the world but in others, it's generally referred to as sadism. I suppose mutual respect and diplomacy mean very little when one is in possession of superior military technology and capabilities. Survival of the fittest, law of the jungle comes to mind. Adolf Hitler put such concepts to work.

Our efforts have made it possible for the people of Afghanistan to experience a democratically elected government.

Quite the nerve. Central Command, of all institutions, is well aware of the rampant corruption surrounding the elections in Afghanistan under NATO occupation. Anyone interested in studying this subject may freely do so with their choice of search engine. Their research will undoubtedly yield no shortage of non-governmental sources documenting the "rest of the story" regarding these "democratic" elections. Why not be honest and simply say, "We prefer a government installed that works in favour of our geo-political interests. We're not really concerned about rubbish such as democracy, women's rights or the state of the common Afghan people; these are just catchphrases regurgitated in our media to maintain support for Western hegemony and imperialism by our own docile sleeping masses."? The election of Karzai by the Afghan people remains under great scrutiny by many non-governmental observors. You peddle this anti-intellectual garbage here because it's a defacto safe zone, very few members will question anything produced by the American propaganda machine.

The simple truth is that your entire function is to spread mind-numbing, official party line, pro-war, pro-occupation, pro-interventionalist propaganda while untold numbers of American, Afghan and countless other nationalities' lives are thrown down the well in the name of Western imperialism.