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Taliban in 72 percent of Afghanistan: report

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Well ofcourse Zabiulah Mujahid likes to take credit for things Taliban might not even have done. Thats not the point.

The point is that this guys is saying the TTP are Afghans (as in Afghan citizens) which is clearly false. Although majority of TTP is Afghan(pashtun) by ethnicity, FATA is in Pakistan and TTP regard Pakistan as their state. Now this guys is saying TTP are Afghan citizens. IF they were from AFghanistan then they wouldn't be able impose themselves in waziristan. The fact is that its mostly Wazirs and Mahsuds with some other pakistanis who make up the TTP.

They are confused - simple as that!

And yeah Taliban takes responsibility for everything even the wrong doings of warlords; there are plenty of incidents which has only occurred in my village by warlords and by their request Taliban took the responsibility.
 
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Hi,

Thanks very much for this comment. It help me to think about my ideals.

Tks again and pls keep posting.
 
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join the bandwagon in ****-bashing!

the problem with Rising and Shining India is that it just wants to not accept that all is not fine within India. it needs to also accept its weaknesses and fralities.

(things are changing now-but its too little, too late) - thanks for answering - do the same in India!


Brother, His point is clear, If 26/11 Mumbai attack was failure of Indian security & it should share guilt then your country's intelligence & security is at bigger failures as it provided safe heavens for breeding such terrorists & masterminds behind it !

If its fair to blame Indian security forces Mumbai attacks which lasted only FEW DAYS on our soil! then what about your security forces & intelligence which allowed such terrorist activities recruiting, training & planning this attack on your soil for MONTHS?? Shouldn't you people share a guilt for it ??
 
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You can do that by not giving them safe havens in your country and stop playing this double game of good taliban (Afghan Taliban) and bad taliban (pakistani Taliban).
Try to control your own territory first before lecturing others ... Millions of terrorist cross the Durand Line every day , NATO - the most advance army in the world cant do jack **** about it :azn: let alone PA ... You have not got an iota of knowledge about the geography of that area ... Our record in the WoT has been far better than your beloved NATO lets not talk about ANA here :lol: ... Just compare the War in North West Pakistan with operations done by NATO in Afghanistan and compare the success rate and peace in those areas :azn:
 
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NATO is providing support to grow world 98% of opium that is killing 1 Lac people every year in 67 countries according to UN report.

all of pakistani taliban of swat are now sitting in kunar Afghanistan ACCORDING TO BBC world
 
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Try to control your own territory first before lecturing others ... Millions of terrorist cross the Durand Line every day , NATO - the most advance army in the world cant do jack **** about it :azn: let alone PA ...

Because you simply allow the Taliban to come and take refuge in your territory so that NATO cannot enter deep into your territory because you'd blame them of extreme violation of your territory.

The only reason why Taliban still exist is because of your military's duplicity and covert support to the Taliban.

You have not got an iota of knowledge about the geography of that area ... Our record in the WoT has been far better than your beloved NATO lets not talk about ANA here :lol:

Yes we can see that considering your own army didn't know your nation's terrain and it took them a decade just to move out of our border and understand the terrain they were fighting in.

... Just compare the War in North West Pakistan with operations done by NATO in Afghanistan and compare the success rate and peace in those areas :azn:

You're comparing a country thousands of KMs away who's putting up an excellent fight. Well.. now that the drones are in, it will bleed off the unwanted trash without risking soldiers' lives.
 
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This was a blunder from the US when they went to War in the first place.

Firstly, they should have directly approached the Taliban, as the rulers of Afghanistan then to discuss the issue of OBL. If the US could do so when they wanted Unocal to build a pipeline through them then they sure in hell could have done so then.....

Secondly, when the US went to War in a very very hasty decision. No patience despite the evidence pointing totally against the 9/11 "evidence" they had gathered.

Thirdly, the US should not have rushed Pakistan into a decision of going to War with Afghanistan and with little or no written agreements.

Fourthly, an agreed plan, a tactical plan should have been lay out long long before and going into Afghanistan, which was disputed by the British and Pakistani forces. Thus when the US did flush out the Taliban and AQ, where did they go, straight into Pakistan....... thanks alot

Fifth, When the US clearly needs Pakistan's help, it should have taken into account the needs, concerns and expectations of Pakistan. For Pakistan, the Taliban are not the bigger threat, but INDIA is and as such Pakistan is not going to compromise on that issue no matter what. The US however, decided it was the daddy and Pakistan must forget about India and concentrate on the Taliban. However in the process of doing so, Pakistan's economy has since lost about 100 billion US dollars, spent over 50 billion dollars on this war, bought in corrupt leaders through an NRO as stated by Condelezza Rice in her book, who have since looted over 90 billion US dollars according to the Transparency International report, Pakistan has spent its resources along the Afghan border whilst India has increased its forces massively compared to Pakistan, strengthen its economy and become a world player, whilst we have had to face the US aggression over and over again whereby they made the biggst blunder in Afghanistan. They bought its biggest enemy, India into Afghanistan and expected and demanded Pakistan to accept them with open arms. BIG MISTAKE of the entire campaign as clearly Pakistan was NEVER going to accept that leaving Pakistan with only but one option, to force the US hand and force them to loose and leave Afghanistan altogether, not help them to win and allow India to move in whilst the US maintained a Military presence well beyond its mandate, hence Pakistan's reluctance to help in Afghanistan fully.

Sixth, there was no TTP before in Pakistan. None of the 19 hijackers of 9/11 were Pakistani, nonetheless the US turned a blind eye to the TTP using bases inside Afghanistan in order to "arm twist" the Pakistanis on different issues. Parts of FATA and NWFP are not in Pakistan's control, where the Afghan Taliban operates, however Afghanistan is under the control of the US and when the TTP operates from that soil occupied by the US, then after a few times one must conclude that the TTP attacks and network is working with the blessings of the US. Whilst the US lives peacefully thousands of miles away, it is Pakistan and Pakistanis who are burning. 50,000 civilians dead, 5000 troops dead, economy ruined, hundreds of billions lost, inflation through the roof, crime through the roof, nuclear deals with India bending International Law to accommodate them, selling new technologies to India, ....THANX MUSHARAF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, our blood has clearly shown its price..............
 
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So, i was searching different sites and caim upon this: Free File Hosting & Video Downloads, Free File Sharing, Online Friends Network - Ziddu

Its a magazine released by the Freedom Fighters (a.k.a Taliban) who are fighting the occupational forces (US and Allies) in Afghanistan. Apparently, they release it EVERY MONTH, with latest pictures and news of the toll of Americans. Didn't know the US hides so much facts!

The link is for their latest (July 2012) issue!

Edit: Some images are not for the weak hearted!
 
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Taliban Activity in Helmand Province

August 28, 2012

Analysis

Taliban forces reportedly attacked and beheaded 17 civilians attending a party that involved music and dancing Aug. 27 in the Musa Qala district of Helmand province. The same day, more than 100 insurgents overran a military checkpoint in the province's Washir district, resulting in 10 Afghan soldiers killed, four wounded and five to six missing, the Afghan Defense Ministry reported. Helmand and Kandahar provinces are the Taliban's traditional power seats in Afghanistan, and the region has seen intense conflict throughout Operation Enduring Freedom. The 2010 surge saw some 30,000 additional troops head to Afghanistan, with large numbers of U.S. Marines deployed to Helmand and Kandahar. Offensive operations and active patrolling by the Marines pushed the Taliban back in a number of districts and restricted the insurgents' freedom of movement. But despite considerable successes, Helmand and Kandahar provinces still rank as the most violent in the entire country. The six Helmand districts of Kajaki, Musa Qala, Nad Ali, Nahr-e Saraj, Now Zad and Sangin continue to account for at least a quarter of all insurgent violence in Afghanistan. With the remaining 10,000 U.S. surge troops slated to leave the country by the beginning of October, the Afghan National Security Forces increasingly will take the lead in operations there. The withdrawal of the bulk of the Marines and the lack of preparedness on the part of the Afghan armed forces offers the Taliban an opportunity to restore some of the control over the province it lost during the U.S. surge. Whether coalition gains made during the surge hold will be a critical test of the future of the conflict in Afghanistan.

S/FOR
 
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Taliban Activity in Helmand Province

August 28, 2012

Analysis

Taliban forces reportedly attacked and beheaded 17 civilians attending a party that involved music and dancing Aug. 27 in the Musa Qala district of Helmand province. The same day, more than 100 insurgents overran a military checkpoint in the province's Washir district, resulting in 10 Afghan soldiers killed, four wounded and five to six missing, the Afghan Defense Ministry reported. Helmand and Kandahar provinces are the Taliban's traditional power seats in Afghanistan, and the region has seen intense conflict throughout Operation Enduring Freedom. The 2010 surge saw some 30,000 additional troops head to Afghanistan, with large numbers of U.S. Marines deployed to Helmand and Kandahar. Offensive operations and active patrolling by the Marines pushed the Taliban back in a number of districts and restricted the insurgents' freedom of movement. But despite considerable successes, Helmand and Kandahar provinces still rank as the most violent in the entire country. The six Helmand districts of Kajaki, Musa Qala, Nad Ali, Nahr-e Saraj, Now Zad and Sangin continue to account for at least a quarter of all insurgent violence in Afghanistan. With the remaining 10,000 U.S. surge troops slated to leave the country by the beginning of October, the Afghan National Security Forces increasingly will take the lead in operations there. The withdrawal of the bulk of the Marines and the lack of preparedness on the part of the Afghan armed forces offers the Taliban an opportunity to restore some of the control over the province it lost during the U.S. surge. Whether coalition gains made during the surge hold will be a critical test of the future of the conflict in Afghanistan.

S/FOR

report turned out to be false. Talibans didnt do it :p pls check your sources
 
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Much to the dismay of Pakistan, this will only make NATO more determined to be ruthless even if it means occasionally causing cross-border attacks.

I really hope Taliban stops getting support from rogue groups on their side of the border.

It will bring a much deserved peace to the region.
 
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the insurgents --whethey they be Afghan Taleban, Hezb-e-Islami (led by Gulbuddin Hekmatyar - an old figurehead with whom we had great dealing with) as well as other groups -- don't need to win a popularity contest here

theyre actually doing a good job in creating a complex psychological brew.


in no particular order:

Part 1 - building on frustration with the deeply unpopular puppet government of Hamid Krzai. Reasons for that are everything from deep-routed corruption to election rigging (a couple years back) not to mention that despite years of rule and billions of dollars in "aid" money their economy and ability to function as a state is questionable

Part 2 - The second part is increasing their own appeal or at least taking the edge off of the hatred that people had felt for them before (especially around 2001 when taleb regime collapsed like a sack of potatoes)

Part 3 - Like their rivals of the Northern Alliance and Mohaqiq's Hazara-led militia in central and western A-stan, they are selectively using intimidation to stoke a climate of fear. And on top of that they have momentum


2014 is around the corner; even the current (U.S.-led troop) levels are inadequate --that too despite Obama's "surge" idea.


This leads me to


Part 4 - The increase in the insurgents' ranks occurred as the numbers of U.S., British and other Western troops also increased! This likely suggests (and is corrobaorated even by western-based Afghan journalists) that the growth in international forces ISAF is bolstering an impression among many Afghans that they're under an even larger and more sinister "foreign occupation". So regardless if even the surge includes civilian contractors and not just army regulars/khakis etc. -- it shows that Afghans who may have initially welcomed NATO in '01 are now questioning their very presence over a decade later!

thousands of kilometers away, Americans of all walks of life are also quesitoning the wisdom of maintaining tens of thousands of soldiers (on public expense) as well as the titanic proportioned equipment and logistical expense required to maintain this fighting force so far away in the land-locked war-torn country......I've met American armymen (and women) and during frank discussions they also asked "what the hell are we doing there...they simply dont want us there"

NATOs mismanagement of the war has helped bolster the taleban and will inevitably bring them back to power. It isn't a question of "if" but only a question of "when" -- which is why over a decade later there are talks of re-conciliation with the Taleban.

So whether its a question of 60% support or 80% support for taleban in Afghanistan (support or otherwise "influence" by hook or by crook) -- America/NATO are basically at a point where there policy options are extremely limited
 
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Interesting thread. Useless India-Pakistan commentary. This is about Afghanistan people. Soon to be liberated by Taliban again once the Americans leave. :laugh: I kid you! Wish the Afghans all the best.
 
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