Taiwan navy releases first video of self-designed ‘killer’ warship Tuo Jiang

[BoQ77]

They always wanna get the Aegis DDG, but without the permission from the US, it is not possible to get one.

really? Aegis DDG is needless. Subs are better

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

in this case, small is beautiful.

It will get sunk without even seeing an enemy ship by aircraft, since it lacks anti-air capabilities. Also doesn't have CIWS.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

really? Aegis DDG is needless. Subs are better

The US doesn't produce any conventional sub, while Taiwan has no capability to maintain or to operate a nuclear sub.

PS, the US won't sell any nuclear sub.

 

[BoQ77]

The US doesn't produce any conventional sub, while Taiwan has no capability to maintain or to operate a nuclear sub.

PS, the US won't sell any nuclear sub.

Taiwan is very close to Japan. Japan has world class AIP subs.
And they proposed to use the tactic 12 slbm - 12 subs aim to most important cities of the enemy as defensive act.
6 is quite enough for Taiwan.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Taiwan is very close to Japan. Japan has world class AIP subs.
And they proposed to use the tactic 12 slbm - 12 subs aim to most important cities of the enemy as defensive act.
6 is quite enough for Taiwan.

Japan is not that tough.

 

[BoQ77]

It will get sunk without even seeing an enemy ship by aircraft, since it lacks anti-air capabilities. Also doesn't have CIWS.

it's simply that they may think it doesn't need those capacities.
Do you see any mobile surface to surface missile launcher has anti air capability?

Japan is not that tough.

Taiwan may building themselves some. I guess.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Taiwan may building themselves some. I guess.

They don't have this capability.

 

[William Hung]

This only shows that Taiwan's military industrial complex is actually a toddler compared to China's.

With their own capability without any imported technology, they can only build a 500 tons corvette at max.

Taiwan managed to induct its own indigenous FCK-1 fighter ages ago. What equivalent fighter did the PRC manage to produce during that time period?

Taiwan has managed to produce what Japan and South Korea could only dream of. The South Korean's new FA-50 is still no match for the old FCK-1.

With limited resources and a tiny manpower, you can only go so far. If the KMT were to be in charged of a bigger land with more resources and manpower, I have no doubt that its military industry would be superior to the current industrial level produced by the CPC.

Heck, I even think Taiwan can surpass the US in a lot of areas. Just look at their consumer electronics industry, some sector is better than the US counterpart.

 

[BoQ77]

They don't have this capability.

with external support, I think they can.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Taiwan managed to induct its own indigenous FCK-1 fighter ages ago. What equivalent fighter did the PRC manage to produce during that time period?

Taiwan has managed to produce what Japan and South Korea could only dream of. The South Korean's new FA-50 is still no match for the old FCK-1.

With limited resources and a tiny manpower, you can only go so far. If the KMT were to be in charged of a bigger land with more resources and manpower, I have no doubt that its military industry would be superior to the current industrial level produced by the CPC.

Heck, I even think they can surpass the US in a lot of areas. Just look at their consumer electronics industry, some sector is better than the US counterpart.

FCK-1 is American technology labelled as 'Made in Taiwan'.

 

[William Hung]

FCK-1 is American technology labelled as 'Made in Taiwan'.

No, only some assistance from Western contractors. Not much difference from the J-10 and J-11 and their foreign "assistance."

The name "FCK-1" was a subliminal message to the US for turning its back on Taiwan.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No, only some assistance from Western contractors. Not much difference from the J-10 and J-11 and their foreign "assistance."

The name "FCK-1" was a subliminal message to the US for turning its back on Taiwan.

lol, China can use its domestic engine and avionics for its J-10B and J-11B, but can Taiwan do the same for their FCK-1?

Even give Taiwan another 50 years, they still cannot build a F110 equivalent turbofan engine.

China and Taiwan are not in the same league, and Taiwan should only compare with Vietnam and other ASEAN nations.

 

[BoQ77]

China and Taiwan are not in the same league,

This thread is telling you about the Taiwan asymetric tactic. Few HF II/III missiles could defeat the aircraft carrier.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This thread is telling you about the Taiwan asymetric tactic. Few HF II/III missiles could defeat the aircraft carrier.

We don't even need to defeat them with our aircraft carrier, since our WS rocket is enough to bomb them back into stone age.

 

[William Hung]

it's simply that they may think it doesn't need those capacities.
Do you see any mobile surface to surface missile launcher has anti air capability?

This Taiwanese stealth FAC is designed to operate in the littoral area around Taiwanese coast. Remember, the Taiwan strait is only 175km wide. The 16 anti-ship missiles already has a range of 150km.

It will be very difficult for any PLAN ships to detect this small stealth boat in the littoral area. Aircraft can detect it, but the Taiwan fighters can provide air cover since the distance between the Taiwanese coast and the mainland is only 175km.

And don't forget, this stealth FAC has a very advance ECM and EW suite.

lol, China can use its domestic engine and avionics for its J-10B and J-11B, but can Taiwan do the same for their FCK-1?

I said "during the same time period" when the FCK-1 was first inducted. Did the J-10A and J-11 have any mature domestic engine back then?

Even give Taiwan another 50 years, they still cannot build a F110 equivalent turbofan engine.

That's why I said you can only go so far if you have a very limited resources and manpower.

But the fact that SK could only now manage to produce the FA-50, which is still not even a close match for the older FCK-1, shows Taiwan's industrial prowess. Imagine if the KMT was in charge of a much bigger land with more resources and manpower.

China and Taiwan are not in the same league,

Don't forget, not too long ago, the PRC depended on ROC investments and factories.