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Syed Ali Geelani Flays India For Planning a Permanent Metallic Road to Hindu cave Shrine | PKKH.tv

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By PKKH Kashmir Correspondent

Srinagar, Oct 18: Veteran Kashmiri pro-freedom leader, Syed Ali Shah Geelani has castigated the puppet government of Occupied Jammu and Kashmir for planning to build a metalled road through the northern forests of Kashmir for the Hindu pilgrims who visit the Amarnath cave shrine every year from different parts of India.

Geelani, in a press conference held at his residence in Srinagar, said that this construction was a blatant violation of local forest laws and would cause an irreparable harm to the fragile ecology of the area. He also displayed some of the photos of this road construction to the media persons attending the press conference.

Accusing the puppet state government of being hand in glove with the Hindu Shrine board which is responsible for managing both the cave shrine as well as the annual pilgrimage, he threatened to launch a massive agitation after the coming Eid against any such move by the puppet authorities.

He also demanded that the Hindu Shrine board be dissolved and the pilgrimage management be handed over to local Kashmiri Hindus.

The Amarnath Yatra, an annual pilgrimage of the HIndus has been a continous source of controversy in the occupied region with Kashmiri pro-freedom leadership accusing India for using it as a tool to fulfill her imperialistic designs vis a vis Kashmir and to pave the way for Kashmir’s integration with the Indian state. The duration of this pilgrimage used to be limited to about a fortnight until a few years back when it was extended to two months. This move enjoyed the backing of the Hindu Fundamentalist organizations of India who had been demanding it for a long time.

It is pertinent to mention that in 2008, around 117 protesting youth were killed by the Indian occupying forces in a two month long agitation called by the Pro-freedom leadership against a similar kind of provocative order by the local puppet government where in 99 acres (0.40 km2) of forest land was to be transferred to the Amarnath Yatra Board for setting up temporary shelters for the Hindu pilgrims.

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He would be far more popular if he uses gis position to negotiate better economic opportunities for the Kashmiri youth. Pilgrimage will bring people, and with people comes expenses and cash. So they will spend into the local economy and help support small traders.
 
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He would be far more popular if he uses gis position to negotiate better economic opportunities for the Kashmiri youth. Pilgrimage will bring people, and with people comes expenses and cash. So they will spend into the local economy and help support small traders.

To that fact, he did support the pilgrimage to be administered by Local Hindu leaders of which are plenty.

The Hindu Shrine board currently consists of a lot of people from New Delhi

Shri Amarnathji Shrine Board - Amarnath Shrine Board

What respect would they have to the Kashmiri forest? Paving such a road through the forest would do irreparable harm to the environment - which is the primary source of income for a tourist destination.
 
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To that fact, he did support the pilgrimage to be administered by Local Hindu leaders of which are plenty.

The Hindu Shrine board currently consists of a lot of people from New Delhi

Shri Amarnathji Shrine Board - Amarnath Shrine Board

What respect would they have to the Kashmiri forest? Paving such a road through the forest would do irreparable harm to the environment - which is the primary source of income for a tourist destination.

No road can be built without environmental clearance, and that is one difficult thing to get in India. Ten + billion dollar single foreign direct investment projects are stuck for years and even denied permissions on environmental grounds.

Lets not sugarcoat his hindu hatred. Last time a few acres of land for the hundreds of thousands of visiting hindus was denied because, well lets face it, he hates hindus and prays for osama bin laden.

Hindus from kashmir valley? I know thats an insider joke but not meant for serious discussion.
 
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No road can be built without environmental clearance, and that is one difficult thing to get in India. Ten + billion dollar single foreign direct investment projects are stuck for years and even denied permissions on environmental grounds.

Lets not sugarcoat his hindu hatred. Last time a few acres of land for the hundreds of thousands of visiting hindus was denied because, well lets face it, he hates hindus and prays for osama bin laden.

Hindus from kashmir valley? I know thats an insider joke but not meant for serious discussion.

The land transfer was a political issue and primarily opposed by PDP to the point where it threatened to pull out of the government.

Well anyway to the topic on hand, I would like to know on what grounds the environment clearance has been given when India is destroying hundreds of acres of forest land.
 
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The land transfer was a political issue and primarily opposed by PDP to the point where it threatened to pull out of the government.

Well anyway to the topic on hand, I would like to know on what grounds the environment clearance has been given when India is destroying hundreds of acres of forest land.

As per India's right to information act, the environmental clearance report can be made available to any Indian making the required application. If the report is weak, it can be challenged in court and also can be used to create a public case.

Hating hindus however, does not require so much trouble.

I'll let go the issue of a puppet government (a pre-judgement that a serious neutral or scholarly piece is not expected to indulge in) of PDP fighting against their masters' land transfer orders. Also Geelani telling hindus how to run their yatra board is rejected with the contempt that it deserves. We don't tell him whether he can offer islamic prayers for Osama, do we?
 
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As per India's right to information act, the environmental clearance report can be made available to any Indian making the required application. If the report is weak, it can be challenged in court and also can be used to create a public case.

Hating hindus however, does not require so much trouble.

I'll let go the issue of a puppet government (a pre-judgement that a serious neutral or scholarly piece is not expected to indulge in) of PDP fighting against their masters' land transfer orders. Also Geelani telling hindus how to run their yatra board is rejected with the contempt that it deserves. We don't tell him whether he can offer islamic prayers for Osama, do we?

How is hatred of Hindus or prayers to Osama relevant to a discussion about environmental impact? It may be when you don't have any argument but to indulge in character assassination - typical of teams whose best player is Mr. Strawman.

If Geelani's voice has no impact as a Kashmiri leader then he won't be listened to. But you know it and I know it, that he has every right to be a critic as a Kashmiri. His arguments are Kashmiri too. He points out that the Hindu Shrine board is riddled with Hindus from New Delhi - whereas a Shrine in Kashmir should be managed by Kashmiris. More than Hindus it should be managed by Kashmiris. If you don't have a Hindu in Kashmir (which lets face it, you do), then it should be managed by any other Kashmiri and you do have Kashmiris in Kashmir.

To that fact, I as a Kashmiri have more of a right to manage that Shrine than you do.
 
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If kashmiri hindu have no problem with present board then why he want to get into metter of others religion
 
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he can also use RTI as every Indian can use to find out reality and stop this cheap dirty politics
 
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If kashmiri hindu have no problem with present board then why he want to get into metter of others religion

Well Kashmiris in general have a problem with outsiders poking their noses into their internal matters. Its an ancient Yatra, there must already be a non-forest-cutting route to the Yatra, why not just improve upon that? The forest is for all Kashmiris, not just the Hindus.
 
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he can also use RTI as every Indian can use to find out reality and stop this cheap dirty politics

He doesn't consider himself as an Indian... Indian government doesn't let him travel out of India, they will hand him incriminating reports.

The Yatra's number of participants needs to be sustainable and limited in the sense that the surrounding ecological impact can be contained. Indian government is fueling the impact by building more and more access to the Yatra. IF the number of people were reduced the need for such deforestation would go away on its own.

The allowed limit for Yatris was around 10,000 to 15,000 but 40,000 are visiting each day. This just shows mismanagement by the board at epic levels.
 
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Well Kashmiris in general have a problem with outsiders poking S noses into their internal matters. Its an ancient Yatra, there must already be a non-forest-cutting route to the Yatra, why not just improve upon that? The forest is for all Kashmiris, not just the Hindus.
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their is option for better route then why not use it

lot of people lost their life during amarnath yatra and theat forest belongs to all Indians not only to geelani
 
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What a way to earn the scourge of Hindus around the world!

Being a fanatic Muslim, he should be more concerned about building an eyesore of an Islamic Big Ben next to the mecca's mosque.
 
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How is hatred of Hindus or prayers to Osama relevant to a discussion about environmental impact? It may be when you don't have any argument but to indulge in character assassination - typical of teams whose best player is Mr. Strawman.

If Geelani's voice has no impact as a Kashmiri leader then he won't be listened to. But you know it and I know it, that he has every right to be a critic as a Kashmiri. His arguments are Kashmiri too. He points out that the Hindu Shrine board is riddled with Hindus from New Delhi - whereas a Shrine in Kashmir should be managed by Kashmiris. More than Hindus it should be managed by Kashmiris. If you don't have a Hindu in Kashmir (which lets face it, you do), then it should be managed by any other Kashmiri and you do have Kashmiris in Kashmir.

To that fact, I as a Kashmiri have more of a right to manage that Shrine than you do.

Well character assassination , like calling the J&K government a puppet government in the OP? Guilty as charged. Atleast I did not call Geelani a puppet! It was equally relevant to this environment protection thread.

The yatra is a hindu matter, not a muslim matter. He has ZERO say in it. Hindu religion does not recognise UN resolutions and the Yatra predates even the advent of Islam in the region. As a Hindu I have a say in the matter, the Hindus sitting in Delhi have a say in the matter but a hardcore muslim like Geelani has no say in the matter. You, as a pakistani muslim also have no say in the matter. Officially J&K is ruled by India and Indian policies apply.

As to the issue of environment protection, I've already said the necessary permission will have to be obtained. There is no case here. And his hindu hatred is important and relevant to this topic because that is the reason behind his opposition to the yatra.
 
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actully he is not able to digest peace in JnK
Talking about hindu matter just to start tension
 
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