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Su-57 was already used to bomb Syria.
According to Indian Air Force, and India paid 90% of the R&D until Apr 2018, dilapidating $6.1bn at it, Su-57 is not even stealth !!!! It just has a little lower RCS than Su-35.
Russia tried to develop an active stealth system similar to French SPECTRA and tried to sell it to India... According to IAF, it's useless, they already have way more efficient Israeli and French electronic warfare systems in their Sukhois or MiGs.
Indian Su-30MKI does not flies any more with Vympel air-to-air missiles : R-77 has been replaced by Rafael I-Derby-ER and R-73 by MBDA MICA-IR or MICA-NG/IR. HAL integrated these on its own.
IAF wanted to integrate the Meteor LRAAM but it'd be too expensive: it'd need to either carry a Rafale's radar in a pod or have Thales creating a large "RBE-3/AESA" to replace the outdaed PESA radar...
And one must really be dumb to blow a mirador with a cruise missile...
Has Sukhoi adapted the looted washing machines chips to replace Su-57's subsystems that are under embargo?
 
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They buy from China. Russia is China's lapdog. China will not sanction Russia.

Su-57 was already used to bomb Syria.
According to Indian Air Force, and India paid 90% of the R&D until Apr 2018, dilapidating $6.1bn at it, Su-57 is not even stealth !!!! It just has a little lower RCS than Su-35.
Russia tried to develop an active stealth system similar to French SPECTRA and tried to sell it to India... According to IAF, it's useless, they already have way more efficient Israeli and French electronic warfare systems in their Sukhois or MiGs.
Indian Su-30MKI does not flies any more with Vympel air-to-air missiles : R-77 has been replaced by Rafael I-Derby-ER and R-73 by MBDA MICA-IR or MICA-NG/IR. HAL integrated these on its own.
IAF wanted to integrate the Meteor LRAAM but it'd be too expensive: it'd need to either carry a Rafale's radar in a pod or have Thales creating a large "RBE-3/AESA" to replace the outdaed PESA radar...
And one must really be dumb to blow a mirador with a cruise missile...
Has Sukhoi adapted the looted washing machines chips to replace Su-57's subsystems that are under embargo?

Eh, I read somewhere about Chinese indigenous chip / CPU, called Loongson, and Huawei's chip called Pangu. Russia also has chip called Elbrus. Maybe they're not as good as the latest Intel, AMD, TSMC, or other western Chips. But it means that they have the capability to equip their military hardware with high tech chips, and not washing machine chips.

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Russia has the chip called Elbrus that use different method to Western current X86 system. And Elbrus will be used for all Russian military hardware, government super computer, and other PC related hardware. So there you are. They don't need Western chips or washing machine chip to empower their military hardware. They have Elbrus.
 
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Eh, I read somewhere about Chinese indigenous chip / CPU, called Loongson, and Huawei's chip called Pangu. Russia also has chip called Elbrus. Maybe they're not as good as the latest Intel, AMD, TSMC, or other western Chips. But it means that they have the capability to equip their military hardware with high tech chips, and not washing machine chips.

Update :
Russia has the chip called Elbrus that use different method to Western current X86 system. And Elbrus will be used for all Russian military hardware, government super computer, and other PC related hardware. So there you are. They don't need Western chips or washing machine chip to empower their military hardware. They have Elbrus.

F-15E, AH-64, Arleigh Burke built in the 80s use Intel 386 chip. You don't need particularly fast chips for military hardware.

F-22 developed in the early to mid 90s I think is the first jet that uses Intel 486 chip which was introduced in 1989.
 
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F-15E, AH-64, Arleigh Burke built in the 80s use Intel 386 chip. You don't need particularly fast chips for military hardware.

F-22 developed in the early to mid 90s I think is the first jet that uses Intel 486 chip which was introduced in 1989.
You do for modern, high quality targeting pods, air to ground optics lock require AI assistance, sensor fusion, electronic warfare and many more modern systems that depend on strong computational power.

Back in the 80s the technology was very crude and even the F-22 technology is crude compared to the F-35 ,F-16 Block 72 or F-15EX. The most demanding aspects were the fly by wire systems, GPS and radar tracking/guidance. Today is a different story.
 
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You do for modern, high quality targeting pods, air to ground optics lock require AI assistance, sensor fusion, electronic warfare and many more modern systems that depend on strong computational power.

Back in the 80s the technology was very crude and even the F-22 technology is crude compared to the F-35 ,F-16 Block 72 or F-15EX. The most demanding aspects were the fly by wire systems, GPS and radar tracking/guidance. Today is a different story.

F-22 has Intel 486. It was never upgraded.
 
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