Speech video: Socialism is the Future

[kankan326]

 

[denel]

yes, indeed and kak is best manure for the masses.

 

[jamahir]

yes, indeed and kak is best manure for the masses.

I haven't watched the vid because the speaker has taken China as the showpiece, but I will at a later point.

But I must ask you, what is your objection to Socialism ??

In my own words, "when one's material needs are fulfilled without spending most of the day in economic bondage, one can have the spiritual calmness and harmony to create, discover and contribute... this is the simple desire of socialism".

 

[Götterdämmerung]

I haven't watched the vid because the speaker has taken China as the showpiece, but I will at a later point.

But I must ask you, what is your objection to Socialism ??

In my own words, "when one's material needs are fulfilled without spending most of the day in economic bondage, one can have the spiritual calmness and harmony to create, discover and contribute... this is the simple desire of socialism".

It's wasted time to explain to someone, who, Goethe described in this aphorism:

Niemand ist mehr Sklave, als der sich für frei hält, ohne es zu sein.

J.W. von Goethe

 

[jamahir]

It's wasted time to explain to someone, who, Goethe described in this aphorism:

And a wise aphorism it is.

Well, @denel is otherwise a sensible person. I would like to know his opinion and correct it if needed.

 

[V. Makarov]

one can have the spiritual calmness and harmony to create, discover and contribute

Sounds good, doesn't work. Socialism cannot inspire innovation out of thin air. The proper regulation of democratic system is more pragmatic. It can make sure there is no exploitation and no economic bondage.

However, as long as there is competition between big corporations, exploitation will continue because they have to survive in tough competition. The governments of big nations support this economic bondage because large corporations are a big asset to these nations.

On a larger scale when it comes to big corporations, capitalism becomes controversial. But that does not require socialism as a rescue mechanism. The 'big corporation' bondage has more to do with realism in international politics rather that maximization of profits.

 

[jamahir]

Sounds good, doesn't work. Socialism cannot inspire innovation out of thin air. The proper regulation of democratic system is more pragmatic. It can make sure there is no exploitation and no economic bondage.

Socialism and Democracy are not opposite ideas. I will give the example of Libya which before the 2011 war was a Direct Democracy Socialism system. Please read for yourself here.

However, as long as there is competition between big corporations, exploitation will continue because they have to survive in tough competition. The governments of big nations support this economic bondage because large corporations are a big asset to these nations.

I agree.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Sounds good, doesn't work. Socialism cannot inspire innovation out of thin air. The proper regulation of democratic system is more pragmatic. It can make sure there is no exploitation and no economic bondage.

However, as long as there is competition between big corporations, exploitation will continue because they have to survive in tough competition. The governments of big nations support this economic bondage because large corporations are a big asset to these nations.

On a larger scale when it comes to big corporations, capitalism becomes controversial. But that does not require socialism as a rescue mechanism. The 'big corporation' bondage has more to do with realism in international politics rather that maximization of profits.

As far as I know, Pakistan has always been capitalistic, no?

 

[vostok]

As far as I know, Pakistan has always been capitalistic, no?

As most of African states, by the way.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

As most of African states, by the way.

Just bought a highly innovative high-tech product from a capitalistic African country.