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Some Limitations of Propaganda

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Some Limitations of Propaganda

While propaganda, using the tools of suggestion and persuasion, can gain important and significant objectives, it is a common mistake to overvalue its power. Men and women are not so easily swayed as some who fear propaganda seem to think.

There must be a reasonably fertile field to nourish the propagandist’s seed before it can be expected to ripen into attitudes and opinions.

As one writer has pointed out, if the propaganda is not in harmony with the individual and his desire, it is likely to be met by cynical skepticism. The propaganda of Hitler, for example, fitted in with a German desire for supremacy; and the propaganda of the sellers of some patent medicine, whatever its real merits, harmonizes with the desire of people for good health.

Moreover, it should be remembered that forces quite apart from propaganda may have a large part in preparing the ground. One must he careful to distinguish between the opinion that propaganda creates and the opinion that is developed by events.

To give an illustration, the American attitude toward Germany was not bitterly hostile in the early months of World War I. But when the Lusitania was torpedoed in May 1915, with loss of 128 American lives, anger against the Central Powers mush roomed overnight.

The studies of George Gallup, since World War II started, reveal a similar relation between events and attitudes. In the early spring of 1940 only 7 Americans out of 100 voted “yes”- in response to Dr. Gallup’s question as to whether the United States should declare war on Germany. A month later, after the battle of Flanders, 16 out of 100 said they would vote for war if a national referendum were called. Dr. Gallup went on to say that “events and actions are infinitely more potent factors in influencing the formation of public opinion than a mere desire (for example) to imitate one’s fellow citizens.”

Goebbels’ job as a propagandist was comparatively easy while the German armies were winning victories in Poland, the Low Countries, France, Norway, and Greece. But his job was not so easy after the tide began to turn. The routing of Rommel in North Africa, the invasion of Sicily and Italy, the smashing defeats of the Germans in Russia, the bombing of German cities, and the invasion on the west made the propaganda appeals of Goebbels far less effective in their impact than they had been before. It was only after Allied bombing of the Reich got into full swing that we began to hear of “weakening German morale.”

No American should need to be reminded that the isolationists lost most of their following—and a good deal of their own conviction—within a matter of hours after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Heredity and environment are also important in forming opinions. A great many men and women hold to the political beliefs of their fathers. The public opinion polling experts believe that sex, age, place of residence, and income are all of some importance in influencing attitudes, and that on some issues, race, religion, and party affiliations also enter.

In addition to all these things, a man’s own knowledge and information may cause him to hold to an opinion no matter how heavy the barrage of propaganda attempting to force him to change it.

So propaganda is not the all-powerful weapon that many people believe it to be. It is only one of the tools in the formation of public opinion.

https://www.historians.org/about-ah...paganda-(1944)/some-limitations-of-propaganda
 
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We are witness the same today eg-Syrian-Turkish Crisis today the same tactics was used 100 years ago is now used today at deadlier and faster rate of speed which is scary and this forum embodies that, the average keyboard warrior or peasant which makes 95 percent of the populace will cheerlead for whatever side but the 5 percent who have the means to be close to the corridors of power or power making use those folks I mentioned as sheep or if in conflict cannon fodder
 
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The bigger the entertainment industry in a country, the bigger it's propaganda machines. Further research is needed to establish the causations behind this correlation.

We are witness the same today eg-Syrian-Turkish Crisis today the same tactics was used 100 years ago is now used today at deadlier and faster rate of speed which is scary and this forum embodies that, the average keyboard warrior or peasant which makes 95 percent of the populace will cheerlead for whatever side but the 5 percent who have the means to be close to the corridors of power or power making use those folks I mentioned as sheep or if in conflict cannon fodder
Lenin famously called these folks "useful idiots' though they have obvious limitations of their usefulness.
 
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The bigger the entertainment industry in a country, the bigger it's propaganda machines. Further research is needed to establish the causations behind this correlation.

Ever wonder why Erdogan became the image of "savior of the Muslim world" to millions of gullible Sunni Muslims and Pakistanis, those damn Turkish TV dramas, Turkey in the 2000s and early to mid 2010s were exporting TV dramas and music videos all over the Mid East later Pakistan, I remember in the mid 2000s no one in Pakistan gave fly f..ck about Turkey of if it was known was "too liberal" and "some s..ty dosti music from the 80s or 90s" but fast forward to 2020 everyone in Pakistan is like praising Turkey and Erdogan
 
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Ever wonder why Erdogan became the image of "savior of the Muslim world" to millions of gullible Sunni Muslims and Pakistanis, those damn Turkish TV dramas, Turkey in the 2000s and early to mid 2010s were exporting TV dramas and music videos all over the Mid East later Pakistan, I remember in the mid 2000s no one in Pakistan gave fly f..ck about Turkey of if it was known was "too liberal" and "some s..ty dosti music from the 80s or 90s" but fast forward to 2020 everyone in Pakistan is like praising Turkey and Erdogan
Think about both Hollywood and Bollywood.
 
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The bigger the entertainment industry in a country, the bigger it's propaganda machines. Further research is needed to establish the causations behind this correlation.


Lenin famously called these folks "useful idiots' though they have obvious limitations of their usefulness.

Those "useful idiots" are mostly sitting in comfy quarters in nice heated home in the first world looking at the Internet I wish it was never invented its lead to more hate and misunderstanding than to become a hub of knowledge

Think about both Hollywood and Bollywood.


Those are the biggest but Hollywood is the king maker as everyone copies US Scripts,Bollywood gets attention due to large Indian diaspora and population Japan has anime and video games but Hollywood leads and we ((know)) is involved in that
 
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Ever wonder why Erdogan became the image of "savior of the Muslim world" to millions of gullible Sunni Muslims and Pakistanis, those damn Turkish TV dramas, Turkey in the 2000s and early to mid 2010s were exporting TV dramas and music videos all over the Mid East later Pakistan, I remember in the mid 2000s no one in Pakistan gave fly f..ck about Turkey of if it was known was "too liberal" and "some s..ty dosti music from the 80s or 90s" but fast forward to 2020 everyone in Pakistan is like praising Turkey and Erdogan

In todays world, the information ur fed through any means play a role in ur opinion. but still its not as simple as u put it. Turkey and Pakistanis have a history that goes way back, Turkey went modern and Pakistan under zia as Islam ka qilla, but ppl still had respect n love for each other. When Erdogan, a religious conservative took power, Pakistanis were obviously going to cheer. There is no denying love for Islam in Pakistan or most of it, in our own ways though.
It also played a great role in establishing close ties. Today its only Turkey that stands with Pakistan openly and straightforwardly. Even china is not that open or Malaysia or saudi. So dont think of it as a bad thing.
Turkey also changed alot in past decade, its economy and industry flourished, helps alot for Pakistan defence, their quality rivals europeans and Americans and surpass chinese n russian.
Why do u think its a bad thing? Werent Pakistanis crazy about bollywood in 80s and 90s?? Remember craze for stupid indian dramas? Isnt it better we r atleast not influnced by indian crap? Though now i see its more of in control of state of Pakistan rather than any foreign.
 
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In todays world, the information ur fed through any means play a role in ur opinion. but still its not as simple as u put it. Turkey and Pakistanis have a history that goes way back, Turkey went modern and Pakistan under zia as Islam ka qilla, but ppl still had respect n love for each other. When Erdogan, a religious conservative took power, Pakistanis were obviously going to cheer. There is no denying love for Islam in Pakistan or most of it, in our own ways though.
It also played a great role in establishing close ties. Today its only Turkey that stands with Pakistan openly and straightforwardly. Even china is not that open or Malaysia or saudi. So dont think of it as a bad thing.
Turkey also changed alot in past decade, its economy and industry flourished, helps alot for Pakistan defence, their quality rivals europeans and Americans and surpass chinese n russian.
Why do u think its a bad thing? Werent Pakistanis crazy about bollywood in 80s and 90s?? Remember craze for stupid indian dramas? Isnt it better we r atleast not influnced by indian crap? Though now i see its more of in control of state of Pakistan rather than any foreign.

Turkey ahead of Russia,and China what are you smoking, of course Turkey and Pakistan have close ties thanks to "Uncle Sam" and his Baghdad Pact which was Anti Soviet alliance I am not against Turkey as a nation and people same like otherwise but my point is Pakistanis are a..s lickers or followers for any foreigners and Turkey is just making diplomatic statements like China no big deal and Erdogan isnt a religious conservative he is just a political oppurtnunist
 
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Turkey ahead of Russia,and China what are you smoking, of course Turkey and Pakistan have close ties thanks to "Uncle Sam" and his Baghdad Pact which was Anti Soviet alliance I am not against Turkey as a nation and people same like otherwise but my point is Pakistanis are a..s lickers or followers for any foreigners and Turkey is just making diplomatic statements like China no big deal and Erdogan isnt a religious conservative he is just a political oppurtnunist

I smoke dunhill and yea Turkey is ahead of china and russia in terms of quality in the sphere of weapons turkey make. Now obviously russia and china being bigger have a bigger sphere.
You are wrong, Pakistanis are not a** lickers, go and observe other nations and see how impressed they are from one or other. Pakistanis are ppl with hospitality and love and fantasy but once u cross red lines can also be dangerous. Pashtuns arw with the most hospitality and love but they are also most harahest when it come to it. Its the job of the state to steer ur nation, more so in this age of information, look how china heavily regulate media and social media. If our state have steered it towards turkey, a moderate muslim society, then its better than indian influence or extremist mullah influence.
 
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Why are you so anti Turkish? Did you sell your soul for Iran you mullah?
Ever wonder why Erdogan became the image of "savior of the Muslim world" to millions of gullible Sunni Muslims and Pakistanis, those damn Turkish TV dramas, Turkey in the 2000s and early to mid 2010s were exporting TV dramas and music videos all over the Mid East later Pakistan, I remember in the mid 2000s no one in Pakistan gave fly f..ck about Turkey of if it was known was "too liberal" and "some s..ty dosti music from the 80s or 90s" but fast forward to 2020 everyone in Pakistan is like praising Turkey and Erdogan
 
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Why are you so anti Turkish? Did you sell your soul for Iran you mullah?
Ever wonder why Erdogan became the image of "savior of the Muslim world" to millions of gullible Sunni Muslims and Pakistanis, those damn Turkish TV dramas, Turkey in the 2000s and early to mid 2010s were exporting TV dramas and music videos all over the Mid East later Pakistan, I remember in the mid 2000s no one in Pakistan gave fly f..ck about Turkey of if it was known was "too liberal" and "some s..ty dosti music from the 80s or 90s" but fast forward to 2020 everyone in Pakistan is like praising Turkey and Erdogan
 
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Ever wonder why Erdogan became the image of "savior of the Muslim world" to millions of gullible Sunni Muslims and Pakistanis, those damn Turkish TV dramas, Turkey in the 2000s and early to mid 2010s were exporting TV dramas and music videos all over the Mid East later Pakistan, I remember in the mid 2000s no one in Pakistan gave fly f..ck about Turkey of if it was known was "too liberal" and "some s..ty dosti music from the 80s or 90s" but fast forward to 2020 everyone in Pakistan is like praising Turkey and Erdogan
Power of Social Media brought the General Public’s attention towards Turkey.

Most people eat what they are fed with
 
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