Singapore as a multiracial country: How nations can learn from us

[zeronet]

PRC practice ethnic nepotism as well but much better than Indians. For example PRC would hire 70% PRC and 30% locals. Indians will hire 100% INDIAN NATIONALS and even local Indians have no chance.

Eventually it will be bad even for Indians themselves.

FYI there is widespread resentment against PRC as well even within Singaporean Chinese.

Seems that your government holds a totally different attitude toward PRC immigrants. It is not an uncommon case that a whole class PRC high school students were granted scholarships to immigrate to Singapore. Look at your local Chinese fertility, your government is just scared by the future.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Seems that your government holds a totally different attitude toward PRC immigrants. It is not an uncommon case that a whole class PRC high school students were granted scholarships to immigrate to Singapore. Look at your local Chinese fertility, your government is just scared by the future.

There are many Indians here who curse me as racist and many PRC here who curse me as anti PRC. Lets be honest, I am none of it. I am a Chinese and I am not a race traitor and neither I want to shit on others.

The PRC and Indians are doing their ethnic nepotism here, while the Indian style are extremely atrocious. Meanwhile PRC will still normally hire 30% locals.

Our birthrate is low. And one very big CRIME of all East Asian is the rich take all the monies, putting people into debt, and so people fertility rate is low. Else our government can do a France baby package and birthrate will rise.

Our government also need to balance the Malay percentage.

As what I have said, bring in foreigners for demographic engineering is wrong.

We should NOT blame foreigners for our trouble but it should be blame on our government.

Our government should not have spread out the legs.

It is the greed of the rich who want cheap labors that cause us to open the door wide. It is the government who has betrayed the young people who are to be blamed.

The people suffered consequences.

The Singaporean pay badly for the bad karma of demographics engineering while the rich prosper beyond any of their wet dream.

Our demographic engineering is RACIST.

 

[JayMandan]

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[waz]

Singapore is indeed a success story, especially with the integration of three quite distinct cultures. I have visited several times now and I have always been impressed at how well the city state is run.

 

[Vinod2070]

I have visited Singapore and I like the place. It is a very small place, less than an average large city in many countries.

Some people say that it is a place with a first world infrastructure and a third world culture/attitude. They may be knowing something.

Anyway, the factors that made it successful may not hold for long. It is already an aging society and may face many of the issues that aging societies face.

Anyway, we wish Singapore well.

There are many Indians here who curse me as racist and many PRC here who curse me as anti PRC.

I think many of your posts just come across as so stupid, it is just unbelievable.

It's possible you are trying to act funny. The alternative is it is not just the posts that are stupid.

 

[Aepsilons]

Singapore is indeed a success story, especially with the integration of three quite distinct cultures. I have visited several times now and I have always been impressed at how well the city state is run.

Definitely agree with you bro, am also impressed with how clean and generally polite the people there are.

 

[magic-007]

Seems that your government holds a totally different attitude toward PRC immigrants. It is not an uncommon case that a whole class PRC high school students were granted scholarships to immigrate to Singapore. Look at your local Chinese fertility, your government is just scared by the future.

Singapore's population and size small , It is better for a samll country to be the sense of crisis than be no sense of crisis.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Singapore schools are world Number 1 weapon in inculcating love among ethnic groups

In Singapore, we do everything opposite from Sunni Islamofascist. Sunni Islamofascist madrassah have curriculum like discrimination, non-hijabing is sin, hating Shia....etc. Sunni schools are homogeneous and all non Sunni not welcome.

We never teach our students "down with Israel", "down with Jews", "down with USA"...etc. We teach them to respect others. We teach our students that hating other due to sectarian reasons are shameful.

Singapore public schools are mulit-racial. We mix different ethnic groups together. We deliberately recruit teachers across different ethnic. Even if someone choose very hard to be Sunni Islamofascist, they will think of how good their Chinese/Indian teachers and Chinese/Indian classmate are good to them.

Even if someone really want to be terrorist, they will have many Islam friends and relatives who are not so cold blooded. Hence, we have no short of informers if there are nut head who try to bomb us.

Many countries like Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi give birth to terrorism is not accidental but due to deliberate poisoning by their school system.

SIngapore is the only country in the whole world with very high percenrage of Muslims and not a single case of Muslim terrorism came to pass in 55 years.

 

[Shabz Nist]

Singapore’s Foreigner Problem
A sharp rise in the foreign population has ratcheted up racial tensions.
February 21, 2014

Does Singapore have a problem with xenophobia? It seems that barely a month goes by these days without news reports highlighting friction between Singaporeans and foreign workers in the tiny, multi-ethnic city-state.

The population has increased dramatically in recent decades thanks to an influx of foreigners, who now make up around two out of five residents. This has put a growing strain on jobs, housing and infrastructure, and raised fears about the dilution of the Singaporean national identity.

It has also—predictably—resulted in an angry backlash, with many taking to social media to disparage foreign workers, from highly paid “foreign talent” to heavily exploited laborers from China and the Indian sub-continent.

The abuse is often so vicious that in his 2012 national day rally speech, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong notedthe proliferation of posts “tormenting and berating” foreigners, adding: “Very few people stand up to say this is wrong, shameful, we repudiate that. I think that is no good.”

In the latest high-profile incident, British banker Anton Casey lost his job and was forced to flee the island last month with his wife — a former Miss Singapore Universe — and son. The hapless Casey received death threats after making sneering comments on Facebook mocking the “poor people” using public transport, though his comments probably had more to do with social class — a subject rarely discussed in Singapore — than with race per se.

The previous month saw a major backlash on social media after Indian and Bangladeshi workers rioted in Singapore’s Little India district, leading Lee to again warn against “hateful or xenophobic comments, especially online.”

Anyone familiar with Singapore knows that race is a national obsession, and far more than a box to be ticked on official forms. This obsession permeates the country, and Dr Michael Barr of Australia’s Flinders University argues that it is important to distinguish between racism within the mainstream of society and that directed at outsiders.

“Singapore is very racist even towards its own minorities, but this is mostly accepted by the minorities as the cost of living in a society that is safe and prosperous, and which they can genuinely call home,” says Dr. Barr, senior lecturer in international relations and the author of a forthcoming book on Singapore’s leadership.

He argues that after independence in 1963, the government of former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew tried to break down the rigid racial divides inherited from the British, and to create a genuinely multiracial society.

But from the late 1970s it changed course, pushing instead to create a “Chinese” society with Indian and Malay minorities. From then on, race became “the major social identifier for Singaporeans,” and racism “a natural consequence of living in a society where racial stereotypes are encouraged and indulged by the government.”

“Unfortunately this has meant that in the 2000s and 2010s, just when foreign workers are moving into the front view of Singaporeans’ consciousness for the first time due to the government’s decision to flood the market with foreign workers, Singaporeans are already well-trained in racial stereotyping. They’ve had a lifetime’s training,” says Barr.

“Of course, even without this training the elements are there for a racist reaction. With two out of every five people in Singapore being a foreigner, it is a recipe for disaster, even without any other factors operating. Then we throw in the fact that the government, by its own admission, completely dropped the ball on providing infrastructure to cope with the influx of outsiders, and it would be surprising if there wasn’t a negative reaction to the outsiders, whether or not it was racist.”

Singapore’s stellar growth in the past few decades has seen it hailed as one of the world’s great economic success stories. The People’s Action Party (PAP) has ruled with an iron fist while overseeing the island’s transformation into an international financial center and manufacturing hub, with a per capita gross domestic product higher than the U.S.

However, this growth has been achieved predominantly by adding labor input — importing foreign workers — rather than increasing the underlying productivity of home-grown workers. Foreigners now make up about 38 percent of the total population of 5.3 million. In 1990, that figure was 14 percent, when the total population was around 3 million.

Last year, a government policy paper called for the population to increase a further 30 percent by 2030, to 6.9 million, at which time immigrants would account for nearly half of the island’s population. Thousands of people attended two rare protests against the white paper, holding signs with slogans such as “Singapore for Singaporeans.”

Fueled by angry reactions on social media and websites critical of the government, the issue of immigration has become a political hot potato for the PAP. At the 2011 general election, opposition parties won six seats in Parliament — the most since independence.

Kenneth Jeyaretnam, leader of the opposition Reform Party, says there is “no minimum wage and no social safety net, so competition from immigrants has definitely depressed wages and reduced job prospects for Singaporeans.”

“All racism is at bottom economic, and Singapore is no different,” he told The Diplomat. “The rising population has raised the returns to the owners of fixed factors like land. Since the Singapore government owns 80 percent of the land, this benefits them. The surpluses generated from the growth of the economy and the higher population have not been used to compensate Singaporeans but instead gone to the accumulation of foreign assets in our SWFs [sovereign wealth funds].

Singapore’s Foreigner Problem | The Diplomat

Singapore is indeed a success story, especially with the integration of three quite distinct cultures. I have visited several times now and I have always been impressed at how well the city state is run.

Singapore schools are world Number 1 weapon in inculcating love among ethnic groups

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Singapore’s Foreigner Problem
A sharp rise in the foreign population has ratcheted up racial tensions.
February 21, 2014

Does Singapore have a problem with xenophobia? It seems that barely a month goes by these days without news reports highlighting friction between Singaporeans and foreign workers in the tiny, multi-ethnic city-state.

The population has increased dramatically in recent decades thanks to an influx of foreigners, who now make up around two out of five residents. This has put a growing strain on jobs, housing and infrastructure, and raised fears about the dilution of the Singaporean national identity.

It has also—predictably—resulted in an angry backlash, with many taking to social media to disparage foreign workers, from highly paid “foreign talent” to heavily exploited laborers from China and the Indian sub-continent.

The abuse is often so vicious that in his 2012 national day rally speech, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong notedthe proliferation of posts “tormenting and berating” foreigners, adding: “Very few people stand up to say this is wrong, shameful, we repudiate that. I think that is no good.”

In the latest high-profile incident, British banker Anton Casey lost his job and was forced to flee the island last month with his wife — a former Miss Singapore Universe — and son. The hapless Casey received death threats after making sneering comments on Facebook mocking the “poor people” using public transport, though his comments probably had more to do with social class — a subject rarely discussed in Singapore — than with race per se.

The previous month saw a major backlash on social media after Indian and Bangladeshi workers rioted in Singapore’s Little India district, leading Lee to again warn against “hateful or xenophobic comments, especially online.”

Anyone familiar with Singapore knows that race is a national obsession, and far more than a box to be ticked on official forms. This obsession permeates the country, and Dr Michael Barr of Australia’s Flinders University argues that it is important to distinguish between racism within the mainstream of society and that directed at outsiders.

“Singapore is very racist even towards its own minorities, but this is mostly accepted by the minorities as the cost of living in a society that is safe and prosperous, and which they can genuinely call home,” says Dr. Barr, senior lecturer in international relations and the author of a forthcoming book on Singapore’s leadership.

He argues that after independence in 1963, the government of former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew tried to break down the rigid racial divides inherited from the British, and to create a genuinely multiracial society.

But from the late 1970s it changed course, pushing instead to create a “Chinese” society with Indian and Malay minorities. From then on, race became “the major social identifier for Singaporeans,” and racism “a natural consequence of living in a society where racial stereotypes are encouraged and indulged by the government.”

“Unfortunately this has meant that in the 2000s and 2010s, just when foreign workers are moving into the front view of Singaporeans’ consciousness for the first time due to the government’s decision to flood the market with foreign workers, Singaporeans are already well-trained in racial stereotyping. They’ve had a lifetime’s training,” says Barr.

“Of course, even without this training the elements are there for a racist reaction. With two out of every five people in Singapore being a foreigner, it is a recipe for disaster, even without any other factors operating. Then we throw in the fact that the government, by its own admission, completely dropped the ball on providing infrastructure to cope with the influx of outsiders, and it would be surprising if there wasn’t a negative reaction to the outsiders, whether or not it was racist.”

Singapore’s stellar growth in the past few decades has seen it hailed as one of the world’s great economic success stories. The People’s Action Party (PAP) has ruled with an iron fist while overseeing the island’s transformation into an international financial center and manufacturing hub, with a per capita gross domestic product higher than the U.S.

However, this growth has been achieved predominantly by adding labor input — importing foreign workers — rather than increasing the underlying productivity of home-grown workers. Foreigners now make up about 38 percent of the total population of 5.3 million. In 1990, that figure was 14 percent, when the total population was around 3 million.

Last year, a government policy paper called for the population to increase a further 30 percent by 2030, to 6.9 million, at which time immigrants would account for nearly half of the island’s population. Thousands of people attended two rare protests against the white paper, holding signs with slogans such as “Singapore for Singaporeans.”

Fueled by angry reactions on social media and websites critical of the government, the issue of immigration has become a political hot potato for the PAP. At the 2011 general election, opposition parties won six seats in Parliament — the most since independence.

Kenneth Jeyaretnam, leader of the opposition Reform Party, says there is “no minimum wage and no social safety net, so competition from immigrants has definitely depressed wages and reduced job prospects for Singaporeans.”

“All racism is at bottom economic, and Singapore is no different,” he told The Diplomat. “The rising population has raised the returns to the owners of fixed factors like land. Since the Singapore government owns 80 percent of the land, this benefits them. The surpluses generated from the growth of the economy and the higher population have not been used to compensate Singaporeans but instead gone to the accumulation of foreign assets in our SWFs [sovereign wealth funds].

Singapore’s Foreigner Problem | The Diplomat

Singaporeans have spread our legs wide enough and our government flood us with Foreigners without providing adequate social protection. We are so good that there is not a single incidence of pogroms or violence against foreigners but foreigners keep bashing us up.

In the case of Europe, the far right and Nazi will ascend to power.

Guess how much foreigners are among us? How much foreigners discriminate us?

Every single race of native Singaporeans, Chinese, Malay Muslims, Indians hate our immigration policy.

 

[Shabz Nist]

Singapore is indeed a success story, especially with the integration of three quite distinct cultures. I have visited several times now and I have always been impressed at how well the city state is run.

Singaporeans have spread our legs wide enough and our government flood us with Foreigners without providing adequate social protection. We are so good that there is not a single incidence of pogroms or violence against foreigners but foreigners keep bashing us up.

In the case of Europe, the far right and Nazi will ascend to power.

Guess how much foreigners are among us? How much foreigners discriminate us?

Every single race of native Singaporeans, Chinese, Malay Muslims, Indians hate our immigration policy.

So basically what you're saying is, Singaporeans are just as bigoted as most other people...and there is quite literally nothing the world can learn from it when it comes to dealing with xenophobia.

Time for a title change perhaps ? @mods

 

[Lux de Veritas]

So basically what you're saying is, Singaporeans are just as bigoted as most other people...and there is quite literally nothing the world can learn from it when it comes to dealing with xenophobia.

Time for a title change perhaps ? @mods

You cannot just let someone come to our place and bash us up, or practice ethnic nepotism and expect us to spread our legs wide like the most shameless whore.

No other countries than Singapore has seen such unprecedented migration without a social protection. Natives have delivered all good jobs to foreigners while foreigners keep despising us.

 

[Shabz Nist]

You cannot just let someone come to our place and bash us up, or practice ethnic nepotism and expect us to spread our legs wide like the most shameless whore.

No other countries than Singapore has seen such unprecedented migration without a social protection. Natives have delivered all good jobs to foreigners while foreigners keep despising us.

When you say "no other country" but singapore, be sure to check your facts. As for me personally, I don't give two shits about nationalism or patriotism or even religion for that matter. What I do care about is human welfare, prosperity and the environment. That's off topic so nvm.

But i'm sure most people would agree with your first statement. Which is why i'm saying you shouldn't be claiming to offer something you clearly are not. Singaporeans are like people from any other country, still plagued by xenophobia. There is nothing to learn from there about dealing with xenophobia.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

When you say "no other country" but singapore, be sure to check your facts. As for me personally, I don't give two shits about nationalism or patriotism or even religion for that matter. What I do care about is human welfare, prosperity and the environment. That's off topic so nvm.

But i'm sure most people would agree with your first statement. Which is why i'm saying you shouldn't be claiming to offer something you clearly are not. Singaporeans are like people from any other country, still plagued by xenophobia. There is nothing to learn from there about dealing with xenophobia.

Everyone has sin and only Allah has no sin. So a murderer is same as sinful as a virgin.

woooo everyone deserve to die...

At the very least, Singapore has mostly solve our internal racial problem We are so harmonious that our PAP government hate us and deliberately flood us with foreigners, including prostitute and criminals, to make us bad, and create racial tension.

Anyone here think their country can do better than us?

One reason (in my opinion) why PAP want this is to divert attention from scandalous inequality into racial tension.

We start to become one people and we start to think about social issue. Our government panic.

 

[hans]

It is common that local people will have trouble with new comer.
From government viewpoint, these new comer with money and knowledge can help the economy.
Yet the local people will first see over-crowded, more jobs taken by new comer..
It is not only in SG, inside China there are also such complains..

There are many Indians here who curse me as racist and many PRC here who curse me as anti PRC. Lets be honest, I am none of it. I am a Chinese and I am not a race traitor and neither I want to shit on others.

The PRC and Indians are doing their ethnic nepotism here, while the Indian style are extremely atrocious. Meanwhile PRC will still normally hire 30% locals.

Our birthrate is low. And one very big CRIME of all East Asian is the rich take all the monies, putting people into debt, and so people fertility rate is low. Else our government can do a France baby package and birthrate will rise.

Our government also need to balance the Malay percentage.

As what I have said, bring in foreigners for demographic engineering is wrong.

We should NOT blame foreigners for our trouble but it should be blame on our government.

Our government should not have spread out the legs.

It is the greed of the rich who want cheap labors that cause us to open the door wide. It is the government who has betrayed the young people who are to be blamed.

The people suffered consequences.

The Singaporean pay badly for the bad karma of demographics engineering while the rich prosper beyond any of their wet dream.

Our demographic engineering is RACIST.