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Should Russia supply weapons to NAF?

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No - what they should do is stop arming a warmongering army that fights in the name of lies. If the Russian government actually cared about the people in Ukraine they'd stop all of this immediately.

Is life somehow so much better in Russia than in Ukraine that its worth losing thousands of lives and billions of dollars? Nobody is benefiting from this
 
If the Russian government actually cared about the people in Ukraine they'd stop all of this immediately.


The Ukrainian people are not free until they overthrow the coup regime which overthrew the democratically elected Ukrainian government on February 22, 2014.
 
The Ukrainian people are not free until they overthrow the coup regime which overthrew the democratically elected Ukrainian government on February 22, 2014.

I wasn't aware that Yanukovich= the entire elected Ukrainian government.

You do realize that Parliament impeached him right? A government isn't just its executive head. Parliament wanted him out, he's out. That's how democracy works.
 
I wasn't aware that Yanukovich= the entire elected Ukrainian government.

You do realize that Parliament impeached him right? A government isn't just its executive head. Parliament wanted him out, he's out. That's how democracy works.
There was no impeachment. According to the law of Ukraine Yanukovych had remained president until January 2015. He had to leave the country because of a direct threat to life. The junta wanted to kill a democratically elected president.
 
According to NATO spokesperson, Russian Federation has already provided modern weapons

Russia provides modern weapons to militants in Donbas - NATO| Ukrinform
KYIV, February 4 /Ukrinform/. NATO spokesperson Oana Lungescu told about available evidence and proofs of the regular Russian troops and weapons' presence on the territory of Ukraine.

This was discussed at a briefing in NATO headquarters, an Ukrinform correspondent in Brussels reported.

Oana Lungescu said she believed it was clear and understood, for the Alliance relied on its intelligence as well as full range of open sources of independent international non-governmental organizations, the OSCE, and the media, including independent Russian journalists. She said there was a lot of evidence. The NATO spokesperson noted that the militants in Ukraine were trained and equipped by Russia and received orders from the Russian command. Russia, she said, had deployed its regular troops in Ukraine.

According to her, NATO observed hundreds of military equipment units relocated from Russia to Ukraine over the past few weeks, including the modern equipment that is used only by Russia.

"Separatists cannot cope with such weapons on their own, as the special training is required for this. These modern missiles, tanks, armored vehicles are the whole range of heavy weapons, which can not be bought on the open market in Donetsk," Lungescu said.

She also reminded about the Russian soldiers who were captured or killed by Ukrainian forces, as well as numerous evidence of Russian soldiers' presence in Ukraine, adding that information about this can be found in social networks.
 
There was no impeachment. According to the law of Ukraine Yanukovych had remained president until January 2015. He had to leave the country because of a direct threat to life. The junta wanted to kill a democratically elected president.

If Parliament votes you out, and the people want you out, then you're impeached.

You realize the legislature stayed, right? That's how parliamentary systems work: if there's a vote of no confidence then the executive is out.

So the guy nobody wanted is out, a new guy is elected. That's pretty much the image of how representative democracy should work.
 
If Parliament votes you out, and the people want you out, then you're impeached.

You realize the legislature stayed, right? That's how parliamentary systems work: if there's a vote of no confidence then the executive is out.

So the guy nobody wanted is out, a new guy is elected. That's pretty much the image of how representative democracy should work.

What about International laws at this moment ? Does it applies anywhere ?
 
What about International laws at this moment ? Does it applies anywhere ?

To be honest I don't believe in international laws. There are international agreements, and there are treaties, but I don't think you can consider something a law unless there's a police force actively enforcing it

That said, there's no question that Russia invading someone over nothing who they had a non-aggression treaty with is evil
 
I wasn't aware that Yanukovich= the entire elected Ukrainian government.

You do realize that Parliament impeached him right? A government isn't just its executive head. Parliament wanted him out, he's out. That's how democracy works.


The Ukrainian parliament lacked 10 votes impeach Yanukovych. By Ukrainian constitution, needed 75% of votes in the parliament to impeach a president. Needed 338 votes to do that, only got 328 votes. By Ukrainian constitution, Yanukovych was the legal president of Ukraine at the time of the May 26 Ukrainian presidential election in which Poroshenko won.

Because Poroshenko is illegal as president of Ukraine, hence the war.
 

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