Should PML-N push for new provinces (Hazara,FATA and Bahwalpur)?

[SBD-3]

What do you guys think should PML-N push for Hazara,FATA and Bhawalpur province?

 

[W.11]

and one karachi also

yes it should be done

 

[SBD-3]

and one karachi also

yes it should be done

When the party who supposedly has the mandate of Karachi doesn't have the balls to come out in open support of karachi province, whats the point for center to intervene?

 

[W.11]

When the party who supposedly has the mandate of Karachi doesn't have the balls to come out in open support of karachi province, whats the point for center to intervene?

MQM doesnt because of obvious reasons, they willl be called traitors or what not,

but its the obligation of the federal to help Karachi which is a financial artery for entire country

the ruling party doesnt even bother to create local body system and its trying to create its hegemony over karachi

 

[SBD-3]

MQM doesnt because of obvious reasons, they willl be called traitors or what not,

Something have to give for something to have. Dare it or forget it!

but its the obligation of the federal to help Karachi which is a financial artery for entire country

the ruling party doesnt even bother to create local body system and its trying to create its hegemony over karachi

It is not, your party supported the 18th amendment which rests the responsibility of internal matters with the provincal government. But I guess MQM didn't prove to be that far sighted.....anyways now face the music.

 

[W.11]

Something have to give for something to have. Dare it or forget it!


It is not, your party supported the 18th amendment which rests the responsibility of internal matters with the provincal government. But I guess MQM didn't prove to be that far sighted.....anyways now face the music.

sorry who am i arguing with a guy who didnt like the idea in the first place

cheerios

but i dont the reson for bhawalpur etc if its not non political

i think based on administrative issues karachi province should first be made, otherwise it serves no purpose at all

punjab needs more provinces because of population factor so does karachi needs one, i dont know if hazara needs one and fata is already a separate federally admin area

 

[ghilzai]

What do you guys think should PML-N push for Hazara,FATA and Bhawalpur province?

Since pmln is a Punjabi representative party it should concentrate on creating provinces in punjab,
Let others deal with their own issues as only they understand their own culture and needs.

 

[farhan_9909]

hazara is not possible because of now more pashtun in hazara division than the hazara people.

And most important PTI in power as well

 

[SBD-3]

sorry who am i arguing with a guy who didnt like the idea in the first place

cheerios

but i dont the reson for bhawalpur etc if its not non political

i think based on administrative issues karachi province should first be made, otherwise it serves no purpose at all

punjab needs more provinces because of population factor, i dont know if hazara needs one and fata is already a separate federally admin area

Look, I am neither for it nor against it. But MQM will have to stop the hypocrisy of supporting it in the drawing rooms and objecting it in public. If they are not ready to face the heat, they should not expect to get it either, Nothing comes without a cost my friend thats why i said dare it or forget it.

hazara is not possible because of now more pashtun in hazara division than the hazara people.

And most important PTI in power as well

And how would you substantiate that claim my friend?

Since pmln is a Punjabi representative party it should concentrate on creating provinces in punjab,
Let others deal with their own issues as only they understand their own culture and needs.

So PTI is a pukhtoon represtative party is that what you're trying to say.

 

[W.11]

Look, I am neither for it nor against it. But MQM will have to stop the hypocrisy of supporting it in the drawing rooms and objecting it in public. If they are not ready to face the heat, they should not expect to get it either, Nothing comes without a cost my friend thats why i said dare it or forget it.


And how would you substantiate that claim my friend?


So PTI is a pukhtoon represtative party is that what you're trying to say.

my bro what if PMLN itself objects to the idea? i mean you are not being official PMLN spokes man are you?


its not just MQM which supports this idea in the drawing room, but do the referendum in Karachi and see the results of demand for separate province, lets resolve this in a non violent way(I mean non political way)

 

[airmarshal]

Pakistan needs more provinces but not on ethnic and linguistic lines. It will break up the country.

Karachi being a separate province is a very sensitive issue in Sind. So it better be left when the hate the party in that city has spread is under control. Only then logical and objective arguments can be carried out. Before even Karachi being a province, it has already been divided into 'interior' Sind and 'urban' Sind. This is an extreme injustice exacerbated by the ethnic party of Karachi and its policies. No one does that to Punjab as urban or interior Punjab or to any other province for that matter.

 

[SBD-3]

my bro what if PMLN itself objects to the idea? i mean you are not being official PMLN spokes man are you?


its not just MQM which supports this idea in the drawing room, but do the referendum in Karachi and see the results of demand for separate province, lets resolve this in a non violent way(I mean non political way)

The issue should more be with PPPP than PML-N, Sindhi nationalists just issue some threats and MQM back-tracks on its statements. And unless the provincial government doesn't agree to it, there is no point of centre to intervene,

 

[farhan_9909]

And how would you substantiate that claim my friend?

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/nation...nces-hazara-fata-bahwalpur.html#ixzz2VXifv9MQ

because of living in hazara divison for the past 2 years.first hand experience.

though i am not completely against hazara province..if bhahawalpure and saraiki or similar provinces are also made.

i am in favour of more and more provinces

 

[Jango]

I disagree with making provinces on ethnic and racial lines. Hazara province, Seraiki province and all are purely ethnic claims.

Making administrative provinces or units is something I agree with it. The purpose of this should be purely to delegate authority and make the devolution of power more efficient.

Making provinces of ethnic lines would be completely akin to breaking up Pakistan.

Making province of FATA is something I agree with. Similarly, instead of calling South Punjab Seraiki sooba or something like that, name it differently, maybe South Punjab or something.

Even if the name persists, the movement for it should not be on ethnic lines. PPP tried to play it on ethnic lines but it didn't pay off. I don't think PML will do it as well.

 

[W.11]

Pakistan needs more provinces but not on ethnic and linguistic lines. It will break up the country.

Karachi being a separate province is a very sensitive issue in Sind. So it better be left when the hate the party in that city has spread is under control. Only then logical and objective arguments can be carried out. Before even Karachi being a province, it has already been divided into 'interior' Sind and 'urban' Sind. This is an extreme injustice exacerbated by the ethnic party of Karachi and its policies. No one does that to Punjab as urban or interior Punjab or to any other province for that matter.

try to go to interior sindh and the developments there and then go to punjab before you display your brainless comments

The issue should more be with PPPP than PML-N, Sindhi nationalists just issue some threats and MQM back-tracks on its statements. And unless the provincial government doesn't agree to it, there is no point of centre to intervene,

your comment makes no sense

you title reads PMLN and not PPP, also the issue for making provinces rests with the federal, the federal has worn bangles

PPP doesnt want to lose karachi for obvious reasons, they will lose all their earnings, the lions share of GDP of sindh depends on karachi, thats the reason why PPP is not even prepared to distribute the mandate to the cities and towns

sorry but your comments make no sense at all