Should PAF be decentralised?

[Last Hope]

Assalam u alaikum.

I was wondering from a while, after reading books on PAF.
It said, during 1965, our PAF warplanes, used to lose their signals with ground control. During the time of meet with enemy, it may be costly.

We usualy arent given orders to shoot down enemy jets on sight, and must wait for ground signal. Should this be given to pilot, to shoot it down when he feels is right time?

They must be given some authority.


Another incident when PAF F-16s were encountering USSR Su-22s on Afghan Border, one of our Falcon shot down another during friendly fire incident. The one who shot down, was the leader and was forced to land.

This is also another thing I hate. During a dogfight, you are forcing someone to quit it for something which was the last thing in his mind?

This mustn't be done, and after the pilot comes back, he must be questioned, not during the fight.


Why does PAF believe in total centralised managment?
'fatman17', 'MuradK' and 'Santro', awaiting your reply.

 

[nescafe]

Assalam u alaikum.

I was wondering from a while, after reading books on PAF.
It said, during 1965, our PAF warplanes, used to lose their signals with ground control. During the time of meet with enemy, it may be costly.

We usualy arent given orders to shoot down enemy jets on sight, and must wait for ground signal. Should this be given to pilot, to shoot it down when he feels is right time?

They must be given some authority.


Another incident when PAF F-16s were encountering USSR Su-22s on Afghan Border, one of our Falcon shot down another during friendly fire incident. The one who shot down, was the leader and was forced to land.

This is also another thing I hate. During a dogfight, you are forcing someone to quit it for something which was the last thing in his mind?

This mustn't be done, and after the pilot comes back, he must be questioned, not during the fight.


Why does PAF believe in total centralised managment?
'fatman17', 'MuradK' and 'Santro', awaiting your reply.

include windjammer in your waiting list aswell

 

[SQ8]

Assalam u alaikum.

I was wondering from a while, after reading books on PAF.
It said, during 1965, our PAF warplanes, used to lose their signals with ground control. During the time of meet with enemy, it may be costly.

We usualy arent given orders to shoot down enemy jets on sight, and must wait for ground signal. Should this be given to pilot, to shoot it down when he feels is right time?

They must be given some authority.


Another incident when PAF F-16s were encountering USSR Su-22s on Afghan Border, one of our Falcon shot down another during friendly fire incident. The one who shot down, was the leader and was forced to land.

This is also another thing I hate. During a dogfight, you are forcing someone to quit it for something which was the last thing in his mind?

This mustn't be done, and after the pilot comes back, he must be questioned, not during the fight.


Why does PAF believe in total centralised managment?
'fatman17', 'MuradK' and 'Santro', awaiting your reply.

Modus operandi when dealing with an unknown during peacetime.. If you lose radio contact.. Attempt visual id. If you are engaged.. you are cleared to fire back.

Particular reasons why in wartime you may not be allowed to shoot a jet on sight?
You havent identified the aircraft correctly.. case in point the F-16 shootdown..
however.. that was a spilt second decision after the wingman crossed in front of his leader.... So in a way the pilot was eager for a kill.. and considering that in the Afghan conflict you only had a window of seconds in which to make a kill or risk crossing the international border(the wreckage of the enemy jet shot down should have landed in Pakistan to avoid a diplomatic scuffle.

Another case..
Indian jets made probing attempts and got as far as Kharian during the 26/11 crisis.. From the instant they crossed into the restricted zone near the border.. to the moment they returned.. PAF aircraft had radar lock on them.. and tailed them all they way waiting for permission to fire.
However, the Government went haywire looking for a diplomatic solution and after an intervention by a certain power.. and in no small part to the sanity of Mr Manmohan Singh... outright war was averted.

Also... what if a pilot incorrectly identifies a returning Mirage ROSE flight from a strike as an enemy Mirage 2000 flight?
would that not result in fratricide.
Pilot independence is encouraged.. but discretion is also advised.

I believe somebody can better shed the light on the F-16 friendly kill.. a through inquiry was conducted.

On a lighter note.. You may crash a jet in the AF and get away with it.. but try crashing a staff car..and you are screwed.