Separation of Mosque and State

[Verve]

What is this 'ism nonsense added to Islam. Islam is Islam, there is no 'ism to it.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Gulags, holocaust, Ukrainian famines, Bangal famine , Algerian genocide, butchery of Vietnam, Bosnian genocide, ethnic cleansing in Africa, Australia, Canada, US, Iraq war were all perpetuated by champions of Secularism. You choose to overlook history to fuel your desi surkha conspiracy theories. The facts though, remain facts.

Do you even know what Secularism means ??

Nationalism and Capitalism indeed have killed a lot of people

And now it is Islamism ... killing people From Philippines to Americas

 

[war&peace]

All we need is to end the extremism but Pakistan was created in the name of Islam and majority of Pakistanis want the Islamic system so whether you like it or not Pakistan is the Islamic country and InshaALLAH Islam will be the guiding system in this country. Right now what we see is actually the poison of secularism coated with a thin layer of distorted Islam that has been implemented in Pakistan.

In an Islamic state, usury is not allowed; in Pakistan the economy runs on it, in an Islamic state no one is above the law; in Pakistan the president has immunity to the law and he can even pardon a death row criminal without any justification.
But inshaAllah soon true Islamic system will be implemented as envisaged and promised by the founding fathers.

Secularism does not kill people

Islamism does

So finally the cat comes out of the bag.

 

[Verve]

i wrote it in the end of my post . a true muslim is the one who knows islam and who lives islam. as i have said before the true muslims that i have seen in my life are probably less then 10.

You need to spend time with the poor and mazlooms of the country ... you'll find many more

 

[M. Sarmad]

Was it separate in the Holy Prophet's PBUH time?

Yes it was ... Read about Misaq e Medina

 

[litman]

Was it separate in the Holy Prophet's PBUH time?

In his time even the state was mosque.

 

[Kompromat]

I grew up in a Secular country, i know what it means and what it doesn't. Stop beating your empty drum.

Do you even know what Secularism means ??

Nationalism and Capitalism indeed have killed a lot of people

And now it is Islamism ... killing people From Philippines to Americas

Orphans of Lenin

So finally the cat come out of the bag.

 

[Verve]

And You, sir, are a class A idiot who has no idea what he is talking about

What's your faith then? Muslim, Khawarij or something else under the Muslim name?

 

[xenon54 out]

Gulags, holocaust, Ukrainian famines, Bangal famine , Algerian genocide, butchery of Vietnam, Bosnian genocide, ethnic cleansing in Africa, Australia, Canada, US, Iraq war were all perpetuated by champions of Secularism. You choose to overlook history to fuel your desi surkha conspiracy theories. The facts though, remain facts.

Those have not been done in the name of secularism.

 

[M. Sarmad]

I grew up in a Secular country, i know what it means and what it doesn't. Stop beating your empty drum.

Growing up in a secular country does not automatically imply that you understand the true meaning of secularism .. Your post makes pretty clear how much you know about such basic concepts



And that also makes you a hypocrite I guess

You yourself choose to live in a secular country

And you want Islamism in Pakistan ??

What's your faith then? Muslim, Khawarij or something else under the Muslim name?

That's none of your concerns I believe

 

[Kompromat]

Its two competeting systems we are talking about.

Those have not been done in the name of secularism.

Our current system is good, it needs time to mature.

Growing up in a secular country does not automatically imply that you understand the true meaning of secularism .. Your post makes pretty clear how much you know about such basic concepts



And that also makes you a hypocrite I guess

You yourself choose to live in a secular country

And you want Islamism in Pakistan ??

Theocracy is absolutely out of the question. We need to modernize our value system.

May be a soft Muslim state.

Theocracy or democracy ....

 

[xenon54 out]

Its two competeting systems we are talking about.

I just dont understand the connection between secularism and the things you mentioned.

 

[Kompromat]

But you understand the other half?

I just dont understand the connection between secularism and the things you mentioned.

 

[BordoEnes]

Secularism has failed as a system.

The most advanced and developed countries in the world are secular.

 

[M. Sarmad]

I just dont understand the connection between secularism and the things you mentioned.

There is none ...