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Secular Pakistan: ‘Pakistanis should know Quaid’s Aug 11 speech by heart’

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@ Aeronaut : Mate, a pleasure to see a like-minded individual ! Have you had the opportunity to read Iqbal's 'Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam' ? All these questions of what Pakistan was supposed to be would be answered if one were to turn to the pages of that book where Iqbal sets his ideas of what a Modern Day Muslim State ought to look like !
 
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I see your point. It is not about what Jinnah or Iqbal wanted, but what common Pakistanis want. If 90% of Pakistanis wants a sharia state, world should not have problem. harping on what Jinnah wanted and imposing them on 90% of Pakistanis is gross injustice.

Correction: Sharia is not a model of governance , its a way of life.

Islamic model of governance is called "Khilaffa't" which hasn't been implemented properly for centuries. Muslims went from being a superpower to beggars because we failed to evolve our governance structure , Caliphs became greedy , went unchecked. They went from a two piece cloth of dress with dozens of patches on them roaming the streets at night just in case any family is sleeping hungry to having 70 women in their herams , wearing gold plated dresses , pearls and diamonds. They went from "i will be answerable even if a dog dies hungry on my watch" to "we aren't answerable to no one". A model that even inspired Gandhi.

But it is easier said than done now , i want a Pakistan which has 100% literacy rate , where literacy standard is a minimum bachelors degree , which spends at least 15% of its GDP on education and research. Where no minority is killed , people don't sale their kids , kids dont have to wait for their siblings do die to get food. Where there is no terror in the name of Islam , where everyone has jobs and mind their own business.

When you think the above , the rest becomes irrelevant !
 
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Secular Pakistan: ‘Pakistanis should know Quaid’s Aug 11 speech by heart’

LAHORE:
Speakers and the audience at a seminar Jinnah ka Pakistan (Jinnah’s Pakistan) on Saturday agreed that the Quaid had wanted to keep religion and state separate.
The seminar was organised by the Awami Party in Model Town to mark Mohammad Ali Jinnah’s August 11, 1947 speech.
Jamil Omar, the party’s general secretary, compared Jinnah’s August 11 speech with the Gettysburg address by Abraham Lincoln and Jawaharal Nehru’s August 15 speech. Every child in the United States and India knows these speeches by heart since it is part of their syllabi, Omar said, but in Pakistan this speech has been censored from the press and never included in school syllabi.
The people of Pakistan should know the speech by heart, he said, but the few who know about it have seen only a censored version of it. Omar said the speech had touched upon four important points: that nepotism will not be tolerated; that the government’s “first, second and last” responsibility is the people’s welfare; that citizens of all faiths will be treated equally; and that Pakistan is an independent and a self-sufficient country.
He said it was the third point which had led to the speech being blacked out. Jinnah had reiterated secularism and wanted to keep state and religion apart, said Omar. If these four points had been adhered to, he said, Pakistan could have been the best country in the world.
Wajahat Masood cited references from several books quoting from Jinnah’s speeches that promote a tolerant Pakistan where religious minorities had equal rights.
He said the Quaid had objected to slogan Pakistan ka matlab kia, La ilaha illallah. Quoting from Malik Ghulam Nabi’s book Daghon ki Bahar he said during his last address to All India Muslim League in December, 1947, a man had asked the Quaid if the slogan was the foundation of Pakistan’s ideology. The Quaid had told him that was not what Pakistan stood for, Masood said.
He said three articles of the national constitution needed to be expunged – Article 2 (a) upholding the Objectives Resolution; Article 227, which says that no law can be repugnant to Quran or Sunnah and Article 203 that gives the Federal Shariat Court the power to strike down any law passed by the parliament that is repugnant to Quran or Sunnah.
He also quoted Thomas Jefferson who had warned that if church was not separated from the state half the people will be hypocrites and the other half stupid. “We should not care if Jinnah was a mullah, a secularist or a pluralist; a nation-state by definition is a secular entity,” he said.
He ended his speech by quoting Jinnah, “In the course of time, Muslims will cease being Muslims; Hindus will cease being Hindus, not religiously, but politically.”
IA Rehman urged the participants to reflect on Jinnah’s views. He said Jinnah had wanted a government that worked for the citizens’ welfare and a country where everyone had equal rights.
After the speeches, the participants asked the party to demand that the clauses added to constitution during General Zia’s rule be removed and the Objectives Resolution declaring Pakistan an Islamic state be denounced. They also demanded that the federation should retain minimal authority and give more powers to the provinces.


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Knowing the speech by heart is not the solution. real solution is implementation.

The Question to Mr Jinnah and his associates is, if Pakistan was created to be a secular state (where religion has nothing to do with the state) then why was religion used to gain independence and as a matter of fact, two nation theory is based on religion.
To me it sounds like that the reason why Pakistan broke off from India so that we could freely slaughter cows and at the same time pursue Indian Dream (we want to be just like them).
 
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@ Aeronaut : Mate, a pleasure to see a like-minded individual ! Have you had the opportunity to read Iqbal's 'Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam' ? All these questions of what Pakistan was supposed to be would be answered if one were to turn to the pages of that book where Iqbal sets his ideas of what a Modern Day Muslim State ought to look like !

It made me the person i am , when i read it a while ago.

http://www.islamicsearchcenter.com/library/Iqbal/The%20Reconstruction%20of%20Religious%20Thought%20in%20Islam.pdf
 
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I dunno whether you'd believe me on this but this very book was one of the reasons why I turned from Atheism back to Islam ! It pains me to see how most Pakistanis don't even know about it.

I tried to buy it in Pakistan , book shops went like "wtf" , never heard of it. I bought it from Berlin Germany online , that was one big slap in nigga's face :enjoy:
 
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I tried to buy it in Pakistan , book shops went like "wtf" , never heard of it. I bought it from Berlin Germany online , that was one big slap in nigga's face :enjoy:

Model Town Library has got around a dozen copies of it and you know what depressed me the most - I was the first person in 15 years (since the first time it was acquired !) to check it out !

P.S You can always get it from the Iqbal Academy ! They've got some wonderful works by Iqbal and on him; because my literary Urdu isn't the best...I read Iqbal's poetry in Urdu and then read their English translations from the Books I downloaded from their site !
 
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Model Town Library has got around a dozen copies of it and you know what depressed me the most - I was the first person in 15 years (since the first time it was acquired !) to check it out !

P.S You can always get it from the Iqbal Academy ! They've got some wonderful works by Iqbal and on him; because my literary Urdu isn't the best...I read Iqbal's poetry in Urdu and then read their English translations from the Books I downloaded from their site !

Next time around , my visit back home , i am buying every single book by Iqbal. Do you have the address of Iqbal academy , pls PM me.
 
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