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Saudia, Bahrain, UAE & Egypt cut diplomatic ties with Qatar

Here is the danger facing Qatar:

In the case of providing evidence (condemning Qatar) to the Security Council, it will face sanctions under Chapter VII directly.. Qatar contravened Article 2, paragraph 7, of the Charter of the United Nations (non-interference in the affairs of other States) and also violated Security Council resolutions against terrorism (issued in 2001)

Security Council - Resolution 1368
Security Council - Resolution 1373 art.1 and art.2
Security Council - Resolution 1377

https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N01/533/80/PDF/N0153380.pdf?OpenElement
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N01/533/80/PDF/N0153380.pdf?OpenElement
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N01/533/80/PDF/N0153380.pdf?OpenElement
https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N01/557/41/PDF/N0155741.pdf?OpenElement

https://documents-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N01/632/99/PDF/N0163299.pdf?OpenElement
Do you actually believe the UN security council will vote to sanction Qatar?offcourse not,so this "danger" you talk abput is just a big hypothetical. Who can the saudis subdue these days even?i kind of feel bad for them. A boss with weak authority. Also if SA thinks every arab country should and will cut ties with iran,they should know thats a dream that will never materialize
 
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Just wait and see.. I won't get down to your level.. those are your perceptions of facts.. it shows your negative selective pattern of thinking.. I won't get personal, because you are not worth even that.. just keep trolling it won't help you.. Qatar didn't leave one nation on this earth without asking it to help..and it all failed..this should give you a hint on what is coming.. You are just showing us your Majoussi/Zionist set of mind by insulting Saudi Arabia and taking it as some political entity.. it is much more than that.. to your dismay..

Lol because you can't debate against facts, so everyone whoever disagrees with your Salafist shaykhs and kings is a Zionist? Majoussi? Surprised you didn't take a quote from Albani or dirt bag Abdulwahhab yet.

You didn't address any of the facts above. Plus show me my fake news quote.

Wait and see what? What should we expect? The camel archer invasion of Turkey? Iran? Qatar? What?
 
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Lol because you can't debate against facts, so everyone whoever disagrees with your Salafist shaykhs and kings is a Zionist? Majoussi? Surprised you didn't take a quote from Albani or dirt bag Abdulwahhab yet.

You didn't address any of the facts above. Plus show me my fake news quote.

Wait and see what? What should we expect? The camel archer invasion of Turkey? Iran? Qatar? What?
Trolling will get you nowhere here..just try to understand that..
 
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Do you actually believe the UN security council will vote to sanction Qatar?offcourse not,so this "danger" you talk abput is just a big hypothetical. Who can the saudis subdue these days even?i kind of feel bad for them. A boss with weak authority. Also if SA thinks every arab country should and will cut ties with iran,they should know thats a dream that will never materialize
See post #1470
Qatar is implementing the demands under the cover of the US..most likely hoping for a veto in the UN security council..

"The US State Department will direct officials at the Qatari Attorney General's Office to monitor Qatar's implementation of the agreement signed by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson with his Qatari counterpart Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman Al-Thani, which aims to "stop and fight terrorism financing ." Reuters learned from Western officials in a Gulf state and other US officials."

http://www.bbc.com/arabic/live/40666929
 
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See post #1470
Qatar is implementing the demands under the cover of the US..most likely hoping for a veto in the UN security council..

Did Qatar accept any original of the 13 demands by Saudi Arabia?

Closing AJ, closing the Turkish military base, cutting ties with Iran etc
 
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Did Qatar accept any original of the 13 demands by Saudi Arabia?

Closing AJ, closing the Turkish military base, cutting ties with Iran etc
I have provided you with credible articles about the closing of AJ, the intent was different than what was reported in the demands.. They did not ask for the closure of the Turkish military base, rather for transforming it to an air base..neither did they ask for cutting all relation with Iran, they put the emphasis on the commercial relationships with no military ties..
The demands seemed extreme, but in reality they were quite moderate..

The most important demand though was the stopping of terrorism financing and ideology (two very important pilons of the IMAFT) which is being implemented now as we speak under the US supervision..
 
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I have provided you with credible articles about the closing of AJ, the intent was different than what was reported in the demands.. They did not ask for the closure of the Turkish military base, rather for transforming it to an air base..neither did they ask for cutting all relation with Iran, they put the emphasis on the commercial relationships with no military ties..
The demands seemed extreme, but in reality they were quite moderate..

We are not idiots you know...

Here is the list. I imagine Guardian are majoosis to?

theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/23/close-al-jazeera-saudi-arabia-issues-qatar-with-13-demands-to-end-blockade

1 - Curb diplomatic ties with Iran and close its diplomatic missions there. Expel members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and cut off any joint military cooperation with Iran. Only trade and commerce with Iran that complies with US and international sanctions will be permitted.

3 - Shut down al-Jazeera
and its affiliate stations.

5 - Immediately terminate the Turkish military presence in Qatar and end any joint military cooperation with Turkey inside Qatar.
 
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We are not idiots you know...

Here is the list. I imagine Guardian are majoosis to?

theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/23/close-al-jazeera-saudi-arabia-issues-qatar-with-13-demands-to-end-blockade

1 - Curb diplomatic ties with Iran and close its diplomatic missions there. Expel members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards and cut off any joint military cooperation with Iran. Only trade and commerce with Iran that complies with US and international sanctions will be permitted.

3 - Shut down al-Jazeera
and its affiliate stations.

5 - Immediately terminate the Turkish military presence in Qatar and end any joint military cooperation with Turkey inside Qatar.
These demands were interpreted differently afterwards..you must have seen the other more moderate interpretations from the US.. I do agree that the original demands were harsh and almost impossible to implement by Qatar..and that was the aim..it looks like some Trump's art of negotiations covered in a lot of chaos.. like the contradictions with the foreign US secretary.. but at the end this is what we see as a beginning:

Reuters: US officials will monitor Doha implementation of the "fight against terrorism"


"The US State Department will direct officials at the Qatari Attorney General's Office to monitor Qatar's implementation of the agreement signed by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson with his Qatari counterpart Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Rahman Al-Thani, which aims to "stop and fight terrorism financing." Reuters learned from Western officials in a Gulf state and other US officials."

http://www.bbc.com/arabic/live/40666929

And:

Emir of Qatar issues decree to amend anti-terrorism law
https://arabic.cnn.com/middle-east/2017/07/20/qatar-tamim-terrorism-law-reform#315
 
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Basically not addressing any of the points. Backtracking by calling it "wasnt meant that way". Abit like how Wahhabi shaykhs interpret everything differently from mainstream Sunnis and say "this was meant differently" lol.

Turkish base is still open, AJ not shut, still have ties with Iran

Amend terrorism law, a bit like climate change agreements, everyone signs it in reality has little to no value.
 
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Turkish sources: Erdogan changes the goal of his visit from mediation to maintaining good relations with Saudi Arabia and the UAE, and not to harm Turkey's commercial interests.


Erdogan: We love the Saudis, the Emiratis and the rest of the Gulf as well as the Qataris

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Erdogan noted that political problems are temporary, while economic relations are long-term and lasting .

"We expect GCC investors, whom we consider brothers, to choose long-term relationships, and Turkey is their second home and will continue to be."

"God willing, we are confident that we will not have to talk about these issues as the crisis in the region ends, which I think has entered the turning point to a complete solution ."
 
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Turkish sources: Erdogan changes the goal of his visit from mediation to maintaining good relations with Saudi Arabia and the UAE, and not to harm Turkey's commercial interests.
The MB king has his days numbered...even though, a new contingent of Turkish soldiers landed in Qatar, the reason the coalition of the anti Jazeera, decided that Qatar is a tough cookie to swallow and it was time to drop their skeevies, and sign on the dotted line with a Vaseline pen.
 
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Turkish sources: Erdogan changes the goal of his visit from mediation to maintaining good relations with Saudi Arabia and the UAE, and not to harm Turkey's commercial interests.


Erdogan: We love the Saudis, the Emiratis and the rest of the Gulf as well as the Qataris

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Erdogan noted that political problems are temporary, while economic relations are long-term and lasting .

"We expect GCC investors, whom we consider brothers, to choose long-term relationships, and Turkey is their second home and will continue to be."

"God willing, we are confident that we will not have to talk about these issues as the crisis in the region ends, which I think has entered the turning point of a complete solution ."

WOW. Those words will surely hurt 2-3 Turkish Erdogan worshippers on this forum. Let's leave it at that.

Qatar ready for dialogue, says emir in televised address

Arab News | Published — Saturday 22 July 2017
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Emir of Qatar Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani. (AP)

DOHA: Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani said in a televised speech on Friday that Doha is ready for dialogue to resolve a diplomatic crisis with neighboring Gulf countries so long as his country’s sovereignty is respected.
“We are open to dialogue to resolve the outstanding problems,” so long as Qatar’s “sovereignty is respected,” he said. “The time has come for us to spare the people from the political differences between the governments.”
The Qatari emir valued Kuwait’s mediation and the support of other countries for the efforts, including the US, Turkey and Germany.
He criticized the closure of the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem and expressed solidarity with the Palestinian people.
The Qatari emir claimed that life in his country was continuing as normal since the Anti-Terror Quartet, comprising Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain and Egypt, severed diplomatic and travel ties with it last month.
“As you know, life in Qatar life goes on normally,” he added.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1132881/middle-east

And we the Arab nation, people and in particular citizens of the Arabian Peninsula are and always will be ready to ensure and work towards a healthy brotherly and sisterly relationship regardless of what the existing rulers are up to on both sides. This ground reality will never change.

To all non-Arabs here or elsewhere that try to create hostility between brotherly people, meddle in affairs that do not concern you or troll here on PDF, here is something that you should have in mind:

The Emperor of Byzantine sent a letter to Muawiya in hopes of sowing more dispute and hatred among the Muslims. The letter read as follows:​

"From Caesar of Rome to Muawiya,

We've come to know of what has occurred between you and Ali, and we see that you are more fitting for the Caliphate and so if you wish I will send you an army which will retrieve for you the head of Ali."

and so Muawiya replied to him saying,

"From Muawiya to Hercules,

Two brothers disputing so what right do you have to intervene? If you don't keep quiet I will send you an army its forerunners near you while its rearmost near me, to retrieve your head which I would then give to Ali."​

Nothing more to add, I believe.
 
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Hopefully the propaganda station Al-Jazeera is shut down.
 
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