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Saudi Vies To Avoid Afghan-Style Blowback From Syria
Numbers Of Volunteers Show No Signs Of Abating: Diplomats
RIYADH, May 19, (AFP): Chastened by the experience of Afghanistan, where hundreds of Saudis fought before returning to sow terror at home, the kingdom is battling to avoid similar blowback from the conflict in Syria, analysts say. In recent months, Saudi officials have issued increasingly stern warnings against volunteers from the conservative Sunni Muslim kingdom heading off to fight alongside the mainly Sunni rebels trying to oust the Damascus regime. But diplomats say hundreds of Saudis, perhaps even several thousand, have gone regardless, and judging by death notices and other postings on social networks, their numbers show no sign of abating.

Earlier this month, an Islamist website announced the death of Rashid al-Shelwi, an engineer from the Saudi city of Taif, while fighting alongside the mainstream rebel Free Syrian Army. On Thursday, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that a rebel fighter who appeared in a recent video posting executing captured government forces was a Saudi using the nom de guerre Qaswara al-Jazrawi. Like a significant number of Saudi volunteers, Jazrawi fights in the ranks of the Al-Nusra Front, a US-blacklisted rebel group which has pledged its loyalty to al- Qaeda, the Britain-based watchdog said.

The involvement of Saudis in jihadist groups has stoked concerns in Riyadh of a resurgence of the deadly al-Qaeda attacks that rocked the kingdom between 2003 and 2006, and sparked a rare public intervention by King Abdullah. Without specially referring to the conflict in Syria, the king warned against “those who deceive our children, some of whom have been killed and others imprisoned.” Saudi Arabia’s highest religious official, grand mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al- Shaikh, chimed in last month with a warning that there was no religious justification for a jihad, or holy war, in Syria. “The situation in Syria is chaotic due to the proliferation of armed groups that do not fight under a unified banner,” the cleric said. “This is not considered jihad ... which must be approved by rulers.” Last June, Saudi Arabia’s Council of Senior Ulema, which is headed by Shaikh, already issued a fatwa, or religious edict, prohibiting jihad in Syria without permission from the authorities. But similar measures failed to stop young Saudis from going to Iraq to fight US-led troops after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein’s regime in 2003.

Iraqi officials have said that hundreds of Saudis fought alongside the Sunni insurgents, some of them carrying out suicide attacks against US troops. “Today, there is a similar issue in Syria — authorities and religious rulers discourage candidates from jihad,” said Stephane Lacroix, a specialist in Saudi Islamism. Lacroix recalled the price Riyadh had paid for the involvement of thousands of its nationals fighting Soviet troops alongside the mujahedeen in the 1980s, most infamously now slain al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. “From the mid-80s, the Saudi authorities gave official support to young Saudis who wanted to go to fight the Soviets,” he said. “A number of these ‘Arab Afghans’ were later involved in acts of violence in Saudi Arabia.” Saudi officials have sought to play down the number of volunteers in Syria.

Interior ministry spokesman General Mansur al-Turki said last month that he did not believe there were many, and that any that there were would face arrest and interrogation on their return. General Saeed al-Bishi, head of Prince Mohammed bin Nayef Centre for Counselling and Care, set up to rehabilitate jailed extremists, said his organisation was helping to dissuade young Saudis from fighting in Syria. “Sometimes parents call to tell us their sons want to go to Syria and we advise them against it,” he said.

Authorities are also trying to control the flow of donations from wealthy Saudis to Syrian rebel groups. Last month, the interior ministry warned against donations to “groups not authorised officially”, insisting that all aid must be chanelled through the Saudi Red Crescent and other official bodies. But Lacroix believes that “in reality, authorities are not capable of monitoring funds that go to jihadist groups fighting in Syria.”
 
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Very poor excuse from the Saudi munafiq royals saying we fear they would attack our region. What kind of stupid excuse is that referring to the civilians who wantst to help the people against Iran/Hz? Is this the only Muslim country that doesn't allow them to go to Syria?

So they are saying this "Saudi Arabia’s highest religious official, grand mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al- Shaikh, chimed in last month with a warning that there was no religious justification for a jihad, or holy war, in Syria. “The situation in Syria is chaotic due to the proliferation of armed groups that do not fight under a unified banner,” the cleric said. “This is not considered jihad ... which must be approved by rulers.” Ok, I remembered three years ago 108 scholars from around the world issued a fatwa on going to Syria after the FSA announcement and now this sheikh opposed it? I don't believe this b.s

Sheikh Mohammad al Arafi the Saudi famous scholar told the Saudi government if the royals are scared of the West, you should lie to them that we are banning them from going to Syria and do it secretly instead. Man, an Islamic State with the law of Allah yet banned the people who wants to help fight against the regime. What a joke, Saudi don't help the FSA and others anymore.:undecided:
 
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LOL, cleric declares that this is not jehad, unless approved by the rulers. :omghaha:

Sob, what about the jehad they have declared on my homeland? Prepare for blowback / gods wrath, what goes around comes around. :D
 
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LOL, cleric declares that this is not jehad, unless approved by the rulers. :omghaha:

Sob, what about the jehad they have declared on my homeland? Prepare for blowback / gods wrath, what goes around comes around. :D

When did a Saudi cleric issue a religious declaration of a Holy War in Pakistan?
 
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NOT AGAINST ALL OF PAKISTAN BUT AGAINST PAKISTAN SHIA POPULATION OR ANYONE THAT IS NOT WAHABI (IRAN CONTAINMENT) = MAYHEM IN PAKISTAN

I have personally interrogated many people from the peninsula (different Arab nationalities), who were brain washed and sent to Pakistan for this endeavor.

Now, this I'm not sure of: If there indeed is active government support (Saudi) to these clerics, or they are operating on their own. I think it might be the latter (now). However, during the past regimes, there was active support from the kingdom.

When did a Saudi cleric issue a religious declaration of a Holy War in Pakistan?
 
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NOT AGAINST ALL OF PAKISTAN BUT AGAINST PAKISTAN SHIA POPULATION OR ANYONE THAT IS NOT WAHABI (IRAN CONTAINMENT) = MAYHEM IN PAKISTAN

I have personally interrogated many people from the peninsula (different Arab nationalities), who were brain washed and sent to Pakistan for this endeavor.

Now, this I'm not sure of: If there indeed is active government support (Saudi) to these clerics, or they are operating on their own. I think it might be the latter (now). However, during the past regimes, there was active support from the kingdom.

We , along with the ISI , only created the Taliban for our own reasons, I will openly admit this fact as well as supporting the Mujahdeen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan ,but nothing else.

I still need to see some sort of a proof for the claim you've made.

Cheers
:wave:
 
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NOT AGAINST ALL OF PAKISTAN BUT AGAINST PAKISTAN SHIA POPULATION OR ANYONE THAT IS NOT WAHABI (IRAN CONTAINMENT) = MAYHEM IN PAKISTAN

I have personally interrogated many people from the peninsula (different Arab nationalities), who were brain washed and sent to Pakistan for this endeavor.

Now, this I'm not sure of: If there indeed is active government support (Saudi) to these clerics, or they are operating on their own. I think it might be the latter (now). However, during the past regimes, there was active support from the kingdom.

I dont think there is active saudi backing through their government fanning extremism anymore, but you are right that there was heavy support before. Saudis themselves are trying to raise their populations towards moderation and spent lot of money to successfully jump into the 20th century at-least. (not counting the beheading and no woman driver issues, those are also on the plate of getting changed within 10 years). So all in all they did a good job in a very limited time frame (2001-present). Now the question comes on those few bad apples who are hell bent n throwing crazy all over the world. The amount of money they have is like GDP's of small countries, thats the real danger which is being felt around these 3rd world countries for the past 10 years.
 
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Most of credible intel about those areas on this forum comes from me. Follow me to get educated.

We , along with the ISI , only created the Taliban for our own reasons, I will openly admit this fact as well as supporting the Mujahdeen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan ,but nothing else.

I still need to see some sort of a proof for the claim you've made.

Cheers
:wave:
 
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Very poor excuse from the Saudi munafiq royals saying we fear they would attack our region. What kind of stupid excuse is that referring to the civilians who wantst to help the people against Iran/Hz? Is this the only Muslim country that doesn't allow them to go to Syria?

So they are saying this "Saudi Arabia’s highest religious official, grand mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al- Shaikh, chimed in last month with a warning that there was no religious justification for a jihad, or holy war, in Syria. “The situation in Syria is chaotic due to the proliferation of armed groups that do not fight under a unified banner,” the cleric said. “This is not considered jihad ... which must be approved by rulers.” Ok, I remembered three years ago 108 scholars from around the world issued a fatwa on going to Syria after the FSA announcement and now this sheikh opposed it? I don't believe this b.s

Sheikh Mohammad al Arafi the Saudi famous scholar told the Saudi government if the royals are scared of the West, you should lie to them that we are banning them from going to Syria and do it secretly instead. Man, an Islamic State with the law of Allah yet banned the people who wants to help fight against the regime. What a joke, Saudi don't help the FSA and others anymore.:undecided:


We just purchased $1 billion of arms for the FSA.

Most of credible intel about those areas on this forum comes from me. Follow me to get educated.

:police: :nana:
 
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I dont think there is active saudi backing through their government fanning extremism anymore, but you are right that there was heavy support before. Saudis themselves are trying to raise their populations towards moderation and spent lot of money to successfully jump into the 20th century at-least. (not counting the beheading and no woman driver issues, those are also on the plate of getting changed within 10 years). So all in all they did a good job in a very limited time frame (2001-present). Now the question comes on those few bad apples who are hell bent n throwing crazy all over the world. The amount of money they have is like GDP's of small countries, thats the real danger which is being felt around these 3rd world countries for the past 10 years.

Don't worry we can track every single penny coming in and out of KSA.
 
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