Saab's Next-Gen Gripen Fighter Jets Ready in May

[A.P. Richelieu]

I admire your emotions to answer the point you mentioned about Pakistan ,We were in the process of negotiating a good number in 2005 we buy SAAB Erieye why we didnt go for Gripen as it has US engine ,for F16 we only have to work with US but for gripen we have to work with Sweden /US both so its kinda complicated .
You really think that F35 and gripen are in the same league .I think you need to reconsider both of there capabilities .
To your third point F16 and gripen are in contention and will remain there .India rejected both in MRCA now both co are talking to put assembly line (F16 and Gripen) for Switzerland i think it was rejected (what is the current status) .Brazil got a wonderful deal it was more of a commercial than technical .

The Swedish Government rejected the idea of Pakistan buying Gripen already in 2004.
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...’t-sell-gripen-jets-to-pakistan-(july-8).html

F-35 and Gripen has been competing in several deals.
Political pressure from the U.S. is the strongest decision factor.
F-16 was not considered by Switzerland, and hardly sought by Brazil as well,
so India is the only big deal where they were competing.
India rejected Gripen E on availability. They needed aircraft before 2018.
The Gripen C would not meet their requirements.
F-16/FA-18 was rejected on trust in U.S. as a supplier.

The Swiss had a referendum, where the argument against Gripen was that the money
could be used for better things than buying fighter aircraft.
Can't see them changing their mind anytime soon.
Any new prgram to buy fighters have to pass a new referendum.

 

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The Swedish Government rejected the idea of Pakistan buying Gripen already in 2004.

Please check the source before quoting .Its

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/ar...’t-sell-gripen-jets-to-pakistan-(july-8).html

Sweden Not to Sell Gripen Fighter Planes to Pakistan
(Source: Press Trust of India; issued July 7, 2004)

ISLAMABAD --- In a setback to Pakistan’s efforts to get new generation Swedish-made Gripen fighter planes, Stockholm has said that it will not sell any weapons or weapon-related equipment to Islamabad.

“There is no question of selling them weapons or anything directly related to weapons,” Swedish Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds said after her talks with visiting Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf in Stockholm yesterday.

Before his talks with Freivalds, Musharraf, who is currently on a tour of Scandinavian countries, said that Pakistan might be interested in purchasing JAS Gripen fighter planes from Sweden. “Pakistan is looking for a high-tech aircraft. Gripen is one of several alternatives,” he was quoted as saying by Swedish newswire TT.

Freivalds, however, said Sweden would not be considering the sale of any weapons or weapon-related equipment to Pakistan, media reports here said.

She also said the Swedish government has yet to decide whether to sell Erieye radars, which was sought to be purchased by Pakistan for its Air Force. She said a decision has to be made whether the radar came under the category of weapon. “We have yet to reach that stage,” she said.

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has been looking for alternatives to acquire new generation aircraft to modernize its ageinhttps://defence.pk/threads/why-not-the-swedish-jas-39-gripen.9575/

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Heres the truth about this deal which is discussed to death .
Why not the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen?
Only reason was Engine and US pressure associated with it other wise SAAB was getting inital

F-35 and Gripen has been competing in several deals.
Political pressure from the U.S. is the strongest decision factor.
F-16 was not considered by Switzerland, and hardly sought by Brazil as well,
so India is the only big deal where they were competing.
India rejected Gripen E on availability. They needed aircraft before 2018.
The Gripen C would not meet their requirements.
F-16/FA-18 was rejected on trust in U.S. as a supplier.

order for 50 Gripen and 7 Erieye in the end PAF limits its Erieye to mere 3 rest money was sent to China .so this needs to be corrected .Man you just nailed it F35 is in competiton with Gripen .(F35 is one generation and not inducted yet) how many of your European partners are buying Gripen ,waiting for answer .
Gripen was never in the race for MRCA .It was always a dark horse but it was not choosen reason being IAF own indigenous program LCA .I can see the desperation of SAAB Gripen to sell these but this is not going to happen until unless Sweden offers them with there own Engine .Gripen NG/C/D are best of the class but for all the wrong reasons it is not selling .

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Sweden Not to Sell Gripen Fighter Planes to Pakistan
(Source: Press Trust of India; issued July 7, 2004)

ISLAMABAD --- In a setback to Pakistan’s efforts to get new generation Swedish-made Gripen fighter planes, Stockholm has said that it will not sell any weapons or weapon-related equipment to Islamabad.

“There is no question of selling them weapons or anything directly related to weapons,” Swedish Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds said after her talks with visiting Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf in Stockholm yesterday.

Before his talks with Freivalds, Musharraf, who is currently on a tour of Scandinavian countries, said that Pakistan might be interested in purchasing JAS Gripen fighter planes from Sweden. “Pakistan is looking for a high-tech aircraft. Gripen is one of several alternatives,” he was quoted as saying by Swedish newswire TT.

Freivalds, however, said Sweden would not be considering the sale of any weapons or weapon-related equipment to Pakistan, media reports here said.

She also said the Swedish government has yet to decide whether to sell Erieye radars, which was sought to be purchased by Pakistan for its Air Force. She said a decision has to be made whether the radar came under the category of weapon. “We have yet to reach that stage,” she said.

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has been looking for alternatives to acquire new generation aircraft to modernize its ageinhttps://defence.pk/threads/why-not-the-swedish-jas-39-gripen.9575/

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Heres the truth about this deal which is discussed to death .
Why not the Swedish JAS 39 Gripen?
Only reason was Engine and US pressure associated with it other wise SAAB was getting inital


order for 50 Gripen and 7 Erieye in the end PAF limits its Erieye to mere 3 rest money was sent to China .so this needs to be corrected .Man you just nailed it F35 is in competiton with Gripen .(F35 is one generation and not inducted yet) how many of your European partners are buying Gripen ,waiting for answer .
Gripen was never in the race for MRCA .It was always a dark horse but it was not choosen reason being IAF own indigenous program LCA .I can see the desperation of SAAB Gripen to sell these but this is not going to happen until unless Sweden offers them with there own Engine .Gripen NG/C/D are best of the class but for all the wrong reasons it is not selling .

It is all good to come up with excuses after You are not allowed to buy.
That Thread You are linking to is coming four Years after the decision not to sell was made.

In Europe, Hungary and the Czech Republic are using Gripen. Most likely Slovakia will get it,
due to their cooperation with the Czech Republic.
Finland is a significant opportunity in a few Years.
Outside Europe, South Africa, Thailand and Brazil.

Middle East customers, which form a significant market, are not acceptable for political reasons.

How do other plane do in Europe?
Rafale in France, noone else in Europe using Rafale.
EF in U.K., Germany, Spain and Italy + Austria. One customer outside the initial group.
F-35 in U.K. , Italy, Netherlands and Norway. Danmark to decide.
U.S. Political pressure significant.

Gripens Track Record in Europe, is thus not that bad.

Next significant race might be Belgium or Bulgaria.

 

[PakEye]

Where is SAAB new generation, the whole article is regarding Grippen
C/D and E/F ???

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Where is SAAB new generation, the whole article is regarding Grippen
C/D and E/F ???

Gripen E IS the next generation...

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

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