What's new

S&P: May Downgrade India (Debt at 70% of GDP)

davidson

BANNED
Joined
Dec 12, 2011
Messages
319
Reaction score
0
http://img4.bbs.**********/uploadfiles/images/2012/01/29/0129172635570.JPG


Countries by Debt of GDP

Greece = 146%
Italy = 103%
Ireland = 92%
Portugal = 88%
-------------------
India = 78%
-------------------
Austra = 72%
France = 67%
Spain = 60%


India may face rating downgrade: S&P - Indian Express
Moody’s downgrade India
India could face ratings downgrade due to widening fiscal deficit


Due to the fact that India's record trade deficit

Debt at % of GDP

My Forecast

2006 = 38%
2008 = 48%
2010 = 78%


2012= 108%
2015= 148% :mod: (higher than Greece, Italy)

(Piigs) Greece, Italy Portugal, Spain ------> Will India be the next?
 
Will india collapse?

Didn't you read your daily dose of Chinese Guy Behind American flag ? Pakistan has conquered entire India and gave it to China as a token of goodwill. India not only collapsed.. it relapsed .. and recycled.

India has 7% growth rate.. as long as India can maintain good growth rate 78% debt is not too bad. Just like Japan, India's debt is largely domestic, so no, your dream wont come true.
 
the capitalist system is to blame...
india should have followed skme other system.
 
Call me when Japan collapses... if 78% is your threshold, you do not make living in Financial sector.

Japan's high debt not a problem in short-term because Japan has big Trade Surplus, but India's Trade Deficit is very HIGH

It's a Different Story Don't u know?

India = Japan?? :lol: :lol:
 
oh,please .
Don't compare india to japan.
That's ridiculous.
Japan product and export everything,india is just the opposite.
 
I love how Chinese who thump their chest for logical reasons (or so they claim) act like dimwits when their theory is debunked.

Mr Davidson you yourself proclaimed Disagree, 78% debt is already dangerous too high, at Crisis level

I gave you a case and point of to debunk that, S&P has done lot of downgrades and the world financial markets have not blinked on those downgrades, so please if you want to celebrate S&P's supposed downgrading of India, you are welcome.. nor I am ignorant enough that India is in tight corner with lack of reforms not moving forward. But unlike a sound analyst, you were predicting apocalypse esp. for India and coyly enjoying your own insane theories.
 
Only 10% of Japanese debt is owned by foreigners. That is the reason Japan has a solid credit rating despite the high nominal debt level.

However, most of India's debt is held by foreigners. I'll post the chart below.

Comparing India to Japan is like comparing dissimilar apples and oranges. The analogy is not appropriate.

India has $137.2 billion of external debt due by June 2012. Good luck in paying that guys. If you can't roll over the debt, your currency will implode.

----------

Is rupee depreciation the new normal?

"Is rupee depreciation the new normal?
Hindu Business Line - Ritesh Jain - 1 day ago

Qqiql.jpg

Unless we control inflation and reduce the supply-side constraints, the rupee is expected to depreciate further against the dollar.

India has been relying on capital inflows to fill the current account deficit and this strategy had worked successfully in the last decade. Over the last three-four years, India has slowly and cautiously opened its doors to debt capital by raising caps on ECB/FII/FDI debt investment.

Coupled with the increasing interest rate differentials between India and the developed world, there was a sizable increase in debt capital inflows into the country in the last couple of years. Though these inflows seem to have compensated for the almost dried up inflows towards equity this year, there could be challenges, going ahead. How? Read on.

India's overall external debt outstanding as of June-2011 was $317 billion, an increase of 38 per cent in last two years. The short-term external debt increased at a much faster pace of 62 per cent (in absolute terms) during the same period and it now constitutes about 21.6 per cent of total external debt.

However, a much worrying fact is that the total external debt maturing within the next one year, short-term and long-term debt (with residual maturing of less than one year), is about $137 billion, as of June 2011, constituting about 43.3 per cent of the aggregate external debt — one of the highest witnessed in last decade; and 43.5 per cent of India's total foreign currency reserve (see table).

Additionally, a sizable portion of India's external debt is believed to be financed by European banks, which were the most active lenders to emerging Asia, much higher than the US or Japanese banks put together.

Thus, with the ongoing re-capitalisation needs of European banks, it is likely that these banks will be less forthcoming in refinancing Indian corporate debt. What makes matters even worse is that between March 2010 and June 2011, when the short-term forex repayment obligations have more than doubled, India's foreign currency reserves have grown by just 13.14 per cent over the same time frame.
Dollar liability

The rupee has remained fairly stable (except during Lehmann Brothers crisis) and confined to the 44-48 range against the dollar. This was supposed to be a new normal and with India's GDP growth recovering to 9 per cent in a short span after the crisis, the rupee was expected to appreciate vis-a-vis the dollar by market participants and economists alike. Though inflows and outflows on the currency front were more or less matched during this period, what changed was that short-term credit funding by Indian corporates was taken in dollars instead of rupees.

Further, some corporates converted their rupee liability to dollar liability. With interest rate differential between the RBI repo rate and Fed rate reaching the highest level in recent history, corporates were led to believe that either the rupee would appreciate or the interest differential on their liabilities conversion would more than offset rupee depreciation, if any.

However, contrary to general belief, the rupee depreciated 10-12 per cent against the dollar. In fact, the rupee was so weak that it depreciated 8-10 per cent against currencies such as the euro and the yen.
Import issues

India remains a net importer of goods in foreign trade, with about a third comprising inelastic oil imports. A sharp depreciation in the rupee in recent times would pose a challenge for the import Bill. With a foreign currency reserve of $311 billion, as of September 2011, and import value of about $35 billion for the month, India now has the lowest import cover of 8-9 months; this is the lowest in the last decade.

The elevated inflation, rising wages and increased capital costs during the last three years has diminished India's competitiveness. Further, with slowdown in the global economy, a slowdown in exports growth is inevitable.

The currency depreciation will put pressure on inflation. Sticky inflation and lack of infrastructure will slow down the productivity gains. An interesting point to ponder at this juncture would be — having attracted reasonable amount of foreign money with 8-9 per cent GDP growth, now, if the new normal GDP growth gets closer to 6-7 per cent, will that impact funds flow into the country?
Strained liquidity

The central banker's ability to intervene in the currency market remains strictly limited as we are running close to the lowest foreign currency reserves in terms of import cover in the last decade.

We believe that a sizable portion of external debt maturing in the next one year would require to be rolled over domestically, as global risk aversion would make the dollar availability limited and will, in turn, put pressure on the rupee liquidity. Any move by the RBI to support the rupee would put further pressure on the already strained liquidity. Along with all these factors mentioned above, a heightening risk on the current account deficit front, the best for the rupee seems to be over and we are in a new normal where unless we bring inflation under control and reduce the supply-side constraint, the rupee is expected to depreciate further against the dollar."
 
oh,please .
Don't compare india to japan.
That's ridiculous.
Japan product and export everything,india is just the opposite.

If you have unwillingness or inability to read and understand the context, please spare us a useless knee-jerk reaction post.
 

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom