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i am sorry but Europeans very much do see Russia as their enemy and have done for 100s of years

100 million dead from two world wars and almost a 3rd during the Cold Wars says enough

Last time I checked, Hitler was European, not Russian. It was Germanic nations which were led by fascists that murdered Jews, Gypsies and Slavs. People forget that it was the likes of Napoleon (1812 ) and Hitler (1939) which invaded Russia, not the other way around. You really ought to go read the history books to get more clued up. Ever heard of "Operation Unthinkable"? It was the plan of the other Nazi across the English Channel, you know the one who is responsible for the starvation to death of millions of Bengals?


Talk is rich about Europe considering Russia as an enemy, which would invade it. Especially when Europe and the island of britain are the ones who invaded, occupied, colonized and massacred large swathes of land across the globe. Fascism's roots are buried deep in britain, with its concentration camp in Bloemfontein (South Africa -1900 to 1902), Belgium's Human Zoo of African Slaves, France's "Jardin Tropical" an alleged agri-cultural exhibit that contained live humans. They (french) are still at it in Africa, in Sierra Leon, Central African Republic, Ivory Coast, Chad and etc.



Also, Europe used Russia's largest trading partner, until the americans/brits scare-mongered Europe into submission and reduce trade with Russia. Europe accounted for 37% of the country's trade. So why would Russia invade Europe, when trade gives Russia far greater benefit than invading Europe would?

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100 million dead you say? Of that 100 million, 27 million were Russians and 20 million were Chinese. Wanna know how many brits and americans died out of that 100 million? Both less than half a million. So it's kind of disingenuous of some in the West to harp on about the ones who perished due to a World War, that originated in Europe.



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Wake up dear brother, the West is a host state to the parasite which Zionism. It is Zionists who own Western News Media, who own Wall Street, who own the City of London Corp, who own Hollywood, who own the White Hall, who own the Capitol Hill, who own 10 Downing St and who own the White House. So long as you keep your eyes locked in with the Western News Media and drink the Western Cool Aid of pure, unadulterated bul|$h!t, You will continue to be led astray and wonder deeper into the darkness of ignorance.
 
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Last time I checked, Hitler was European, not Russian. It was Germanic nations which were led by fascists that murdered Jews, Gypsies and Slavs. People forget that it was the likes of Napoleon (1812 ) and Hitler (1939) which invaded Russia, not the other way around. You really ought to go read the history books to get more clued up. Ever heard of "Operation Unthinkable"? It was the plan of the other Nazi across the English Channel, you know the one who is responsible for the starvation to death of millions of Bengals?


Talk is rich about Europe considering Russia as an enemy, which would invade it. Especially when Europe and the island of britain are the ones who invaded, occupied, colonized and massacred large swathes of land across the globe. Fascism's roots are buried deep in britain, with its concentration camp in Bloemfontein (South Africa -1900 to 1902), Belgium's Human Zoo of African Slaves, France's "Jardin Tropical" an alleged agri-cultural exhibit that contained live humans. They (french) are still at it in Africa, in Sierra Leon, Central African Republic, Ivory Coast, Chad and etc.



Also, Europe used Russia's largest trading partner, until the americans/brits scare-mongered Europe into submission and reduce trade with Russia. Europe accounted for 37% of the country's trade. So why would Russia invade Europe, when trade gives Russia far greater benefit than invading Europe would?

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100 million dead you say? Of that 100 million, 27 million were Russians and 20 million were Chinese. Wanna know how many brits and americans died out of that 100 million? Both less than half a million. So it's kind of disingenuous of some in the West to harp on about the ones who perished due to a World War, that originated in Europe.



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Wake up dear brother, the West is a host state to the parasite which Zionism. It is Zionists who own Western News Media, who own Wall Street, who own the City of London Corp, who own Hollywood, who own the White Hall, who own the Capitol Hill, who own 10 Downing St and who own the White House. So long as you keep your eyes locked in with the Western News Media and drink the Western Cool Aid of pure, unadulterated bul|$h!t, You will continue to be led astray and wonder deeper into the darkness of ignorance.

i don’t disagree with any of that

But biggest threat to Islam is communism

man made law cannot be above Gods laws

communism is the worst form of man made law
 
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Shaheen missiles are already hypersonic at mid flight, mach 18. what we need are hypersonic sub launched missiles.

That's untrue. Hypersonic weapons have different trajectory among many other things. There is no terminal stage also if you design them for a specific purpose. Your current ballistic missile systems outside of the cruise missiles, are supersonic like you said, but once they reach outer atmosphere, they then drop projectiles that use gravity and can be intercepted by AEGIS, PAC-3, ARROW, S-400 etc, advance missile defense systems.
 
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But biggest threat to Islam is communism

The biggest threat to Islam are Muslims who have become Munafiqs and have joined in servitude to Zionists. Guess which nations are owned and controlled by Zionists? Right off the bat, britain, france and america. Guess who has been waging wars, invading other countries and meddling in their internal affairs, clandestinely? Again, britain, france and america. The Munafiqs are those in the Muslim world who have allied themselves to these Zionist Slave States (britain, france and america), are the biggest threat to the Muslim World.

Islam has been on earth since the time of Adam Alaihi Salam, no one can threaten Islam. The only ones who are threatened, are those who choose to follow Islam by establishing their faith. And we live in a world today, particularly the West, who is waging war on FAITH.

man made law cannot be above Gods laws

Tell that to the entire West, which has made their laws above God's Laws, by legally permitting a Man to marry another Man and Woman to marry another Woman. All of North America, Western Europe, Australia and South Africa have made legally permissible for same sex marriages. If you slap those countries on the world map with one color, you will notice that it is the entire West that has gone above God's Laws and made same-sex marriages, legal.

Guess which country does not (among other countries) that upholds God's law and prohibits same-sex marriages? Russia!!! Along with the rest of Asia, Africa and South East Asia.

communism is the worst form of man made law

Communism in Russia was instigated by the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks are documented as being of Jewish roots and are Atheists. Karl Marx was a Jew, whose name was Moses Mordecai Levi, was an athiest. Guess where he lived, when he left Continental Europe? Dunno? Karl Marx A.K.A - Moses Mordecai Levi lived in London, where he came up with most of his ideology on Marxism, which is the father of Communism.
 
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Where is Russia headed in the next decade militarily? And Tsirkon is limited to only 600 miles, why? This can't target the US, which is the purpose behind new weapon's development in Russia...
Zircon is made compatible with Onyx and Calibre missiles - they all use the same vertical launch cells. I guess it can fly more than 1000 km, but we will never know utill it happens. Who can stop Russian submarines to launch Zircons to USA from 1000 km distance from underwater? It is more than enough range.
 
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The biggest threat to Islam are Muslims who have become Munafiqs and have joined in servitude to Zionists. Guess which nations are owned and controlled by Zionists? Right off the bat, britain, france and america. Guess who has been waging wars, invading other countries and meddling in their internal affairs, clandestinely? Again, britain, france and america. The Munafiqs are those in the Muslim world who have allied themselves to these Zionist Slave States (britain, france and america), are the biggest threat to the Muslim World.

Islam has been on earth since the time of Adam Alaihi Salam, no one can threaten Islam. The only ones who are threatened, are those who choose to follow Islam by establishing their faith. And we live in a world today, particularly the West, who is waging war on FAITH.



Tell that to the entire West, which has made their laws above God's Laws, by legally permitting a Man to marry another Man and Woman to marry another Woman. All of North America, Western Europe, Australia and South Africa have made legally permissible for same sex marriages. If you slap those countries on the world map with one color, you will notice that it is the entire West that has gone above God's Laws and made same-sex marriages, legal.

Guess which country does not (among other countries) that upholds God's law and prohibits same-sex marriages? Russia!!! Along with the rest of Asia, Africa and South East Asia.



Communism in Russia was instigated by the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks are documented as being of Jewish roots and are Atheists. Karl Marx was a Jew, whose name was Moses Mordecai Levi, was an athiest. Guess where he lived, when he left Continental Europe? Dunno? Karl Marx A.K.A - Moses Mordecai Levi lived in London, where he came up with most of his ideology on Marxism, which is the father of Communism.
The biggest threat to Islam are Muslims who have become Munafiqs and have joined in servitude to Zionists. Guess which nations are owned and controlled by Zionists? Right off the bat, britain, france and america. Guess who has been waging wars, invading other countries and meddling in their internal affairs, clandestinely? Again, britain, france and america. The Munafiqs are those in the Muslim world who have allied themselves to these Zionist Slave States (britain, france and america), are the biggest threat to the Muslim World.

Islam has been on earth since the time of Adam Alaihi Salam, no one can threaten Islam. The only ones who are threatened, are those who choose to follow Islam by establishing their faith. And we live in a world today, particularly the West, who is waging war on FAITH.



Tell that to the entire West, which has made their laws above God's Laws, by legally permitting a Man to marry another Man and Woman to marry another Woman. All of North America, Western Europe, Australia and South Africa have made legally permissible for same sex marriages. If you slap those countries on the world map with one color, you will notice that it is the entire West that has gone above God's Laws and made same-sex marriages, legal.

Guess which country does not (among other countries) that upholds God's law and prohibits same-sex marriages? Russia!!! Along with the rest of Asia, Africa and South East Asia.



Communism in Russia was instigated by the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks are documented as being of Jewish roots and are Atheists. Karl Marx was a Jew, whose name was Moses Mordecai Levi, was an athiest. Guess where he lived, when he left Continental Europe? Dunno? Karl Marx A.K.A - Moses Mordecai Levi lived in London, where he came up with most of his ideology on Marxism, which is the father of Communism.

When communist China takes over Pakistan and force to leave your religion you will run to UK for protection stop trying to be a hero

UK may have issues but we have loud adhan and open mosques and we can practice our religion here more freely than any other country in the world Including all “Islamic” ones

from my faith perspective I consider Russia and China as the biggest enemy of Islam both now and historically speaking Russia
 
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Why are you talking about China's threat to Muslims in a topic of Russian missiles?
 
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When communist China takes over Pakistan and force to leave your religion

My dear brother, the "Communist" China is the same country that adopted Capitalism to surge forward and become the second largest economy in the World today.

As for taking over Pakistan, last time I checked, it was america and nato forces that had conducted "Drone Strikes" in Pakistan, a clear violation of the country's sovereignty and International Law. Your dearest ole britain, is lock n step with america and nato. It is america, britain and france who have bombed Libya out of existence, destroyed Syria as a country, armed Najdi-Sauds with hundreds of billions of dollars worth military hardware to be used against Yemen. So when you say that Communist China will take over Pakistan, it is seems more like the WMDs of Iraq, the Chemical Weapons of Syria, the Russia Collusion in american elections and the Novichok of Scripals.

Communist China has a trillion dollar plus infrastructure and development program stretching across the planet, under the Belt & Road Initiative. Meanwhile america, britain and france want to go to war with Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela. In the last 20 years, america/britain/france have been the instigators of war with countless nations. While in the last 20 years "Communist" China has been manufacturing toys, household appliances, shoes, flip-flops, cars, drones, automation for manufacturing, ships and countless other things.

I think you have selective memory, otherwise I would not need to remind you that it was the american and british governments that suggest that "Taliban" can get their hands on Pakistani Nukes. Or you have forgotten when CIA operatives were caught in Pakistan, spying on Pakistani installations. Funny how you say China will take over Pakistan, meanwhile the last 20 years it's the West led by america that has been conducting drone strikes, attempting to infiltrate Pakistan's military installations, outright attacking Pakistan Military's border posts and claiming to have killed OBL's ghost, coz of course only OBL can go swim in the Arabian Sea, posthumously, right!?!!

you will run to UK for protection

My Creator, my God, my Owner, my Sustainer and my Protector is ALLAH SUBHANAHU WATA'AALAH and I belong to the Ummah of Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. Whoever tries to stop me from practicing my faith in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah, I will fight them till my last breath. It is inconsequential whether I live or die, what is crucial is that I live to establish Imaan and die in the state of Imaan. That pathetic little island can go sink at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, I would rather live, fight and die as a Muslim on the soil that I love, the soil that Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah blessed Pakistanis with, than go to that island of Dajjal.

stop trying to be a hero

Hero?! I am neither trying nor do I have any illusions to be one. For those who try to be heros have watched one too many hollywood/bollywood sewage.

If you have not realized it by now, try again and this time with sincerity .... I am a Muslim, I have studied history, I have studied the Noble Quran, I have fought to establish my Imaan and will continue to do so, following the footsteps of my beloved Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. You may not see it, but the tide is turning and the Malhama approaches. If you find yourself living in the West when the Malhama is upon us, it would be most unfortunate.

UK may have issues but we have loud adhan and open mosques and we can practice our religion here more freely than any other country in the world Including all “Islamic” ones

Forgive me, but when a country (britain) creates laws which makes same-sex marriages permissible when Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah has made Haram. Then you can have the Adhaan called out from the top of the BT Tower for all I care, it's a hollow an argument trying to convince yourself, much less me.

Be free of the deception of Dajjal, dear brother.

from my faith perspective I consider Russia and China as the biggest enemy of Islam both now and historically speaking Russia

From the Noble Qur'an, the declaration by Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah is that HE will raise those who proclaim to be the true followers of Jesus (Isa Alaihi Salam) to a position of Dominance over their enemies, until the day of Qayamah. At present, there is only type of Christians who are faithful to Jesus (Isa Alaihi Salam), and those are Orthodox Christians, not Catholics, not Protestants, not Evangelists or anyone else. At the heart of Orthodox Christianity, stands one nation, leading the Orthodox Christians, and that nation is Russia.

You can believe what you choose to believe, I on the other hand, believe in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah and HIS words which is the Noble Qur'an.

It is unfortunate that you and I are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. But as a fellow Muslim, I pray for your wellbeing. May Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah guide us all. Until then, we go our separate ways, dear brother.

Ma'assalamah
 
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Zircon is made compatible with Onix and Calibr missiles - they all use the same vertical launch cells. I guess it can fly more than 1000 km, but we will never know utill it happens. Who can stop Russian submarines to launch Zircons to USA from 1000 km distance from underwater? It is more than enough range.

1000 KM distance is not that much. You'd have to get VERY close and deal with a lot of sensors and Aegis / anti-missile and submarine warfare systems. Russia has a habit of developing longer range weapons. Why hide or show reduced range of this system?
 
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1000 KM distance is not that much. You'd have to get VERY close and deal with a lot of sensors and Aegis / anti-missile and submarine warfare systems. Russia has a habit of developing longer range weapons. Why hide or show reduced range of this system?
Zircon is mainly antiship missile, 1000 km is quite good range. One of the main advantage of Zircon it can be launched from all ships and submarines wich currently armed with P-800 Onyx or Calibre missiles. There will be bigger hypersonic cruise missiles with longer range for bombers I suppose.
 
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From the Noble Qur'an, the declaration by Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah is that HE will raise those who proclaim to be the true followers of Jesus (Isa Alaihi Salam) to a position of Dominance over their enemies, until the day of Qayamah. At present, there is only type of Christians who are faithful to Jesus (Isa Alaihi Salam), and those are Orthodox Christians, not Catholics, not Protestants, not Evangelists or anyone else. At the heart of Orthodox Christianity, stands one nation, leading the Orthodox Christians, and that nation is Russia.

You can believe what you choose to believe, I on the other hand, believe in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah and HIS words which is the Noble Qur'an.

It is unfortunate that you and I are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. But as a fellow Muslim, I pray for your wellbeing. May Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah guide us all. Until then, we go our separate ways, dear brother.

Ma'assalamah

I just released you are Dizasta from PDF? Mujahid Achakzai?

in that case brother I will not oppose you in any other matter and 1st and foremost we are united by our religion

we are not going to go our separate ways we are on the same path

Please forgive me if I offended you I recognised your writing and text only now

Wsalam Peace be Upon you
 
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Like we developed BRAHMOS with Russian help I have no doubt that in future ZICRON is going to be a weapon of Indian military...... Can't wait for the day.....
 
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Time for India to label it as a home grown Hypersonic variant of Brahmos :lol:
 
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Russian hypersonic missiles can avoid any American antimissile shield?
 
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