Rebuttal : Bullet-proof cars became death traps in May 2012 operation

[Fieldmarshal]

Rebuttal : HIT mohafiz become deadly embarrassment

The most common misperception about armored cars is that they are bullet proof, which is incorrect. No armored car can be categorized as bullet proof, since all ballistic material available are rated to defeat ballistic threats within specific parameters in accordance with various international ballistic standards.

No vehicle can be made bomb/IED proof – not even a tank. Usually for low profile, up-armored commercial vehicles, the blast protection offered is described in terms of number of hand grenades or some particular small road side bombs. For APCs it is usually described in terms of quantity (in Kilograms etc) of TNT or any equivalent explosive charges.
khi/sind police had ordered B6 level armored vehicle to be manufactured by HIT
B6 armoring specifies that the material can defeat multiple 7.62x51mm assault rifle rounds. 6mm ballistic steel is used on B6 vehicles.
According to the CEN ballistic standards, materials rated at the B6 and B7 level can both defeat multiple 7.62x51mm rifle rounds, but they are rated for different types of ammunition. B7 level armoring can defeat armor piercing 7.62x51mm ammunition that are designed to penetrate armor whereas B6 level armoring cannot (B6 is the protection level of the APC and armored cars of khi/sind police) .
had these vehincles been B7 than B7 armoring can defeat 7.62x54R ammunition used in weapons such as the Dragunov SVD rifle and PKM/PKP machine guns.

The APC in questions all took multiple armor piercing round hits over a period of many days even though the level of protection of the APC and armored cars (B 6) were not rated to provide protection against against such ammunition's.
So instead of pointing fingers at HIT, khi/sind police need to look at their own stupidity of ordering down graded vehicles. Now after the fc@kup sind police has now placed an order with HIT for B7 armor protection level vehicle (Mohafiz).

Junaid

 

[MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n]

Rebuttal : HIT mohafiz become deadly embarrassment

The most common misperception about armored cars is that they are bullet proof, which is incorrect. No armored car can be categorized as bullet proof, since all ballistic material available are rated to defeat ballistic threats within specific parameters in accordance with various international ballistic standards.

No vehicle can be made bomb/IED proof – not even a tank. Usually for low profile, up-armored commercial vehicles, the blast protection offered is described in terms of number of hand grenades or some particular small road side bombs. For APCs it is usually described in terms of quantity (in Kilograms etc) of TNT or any equivalent explosive charges.
khi/sind police had ordered B6 level armored vehicle to be manufactured by HIT
B6 armoring specifies that the material can defeat multiple 7.62x51mm assault rifle rounds. 6mm ballistic steel is used on B6 vehicles.
According to the CEN ballistic standards, materials rated at the B6 and B7 level can both defeat multiple 7.62x51mm rifle rounds, but they are rated for different types of ammunition. B7 level armoring can defeat armor piercing 7.62x51mm ammunition that are designed to penetrate armor whereas B6 level armoring cannot (B6 is the protection level of the APC and armored cars of khi/sind police) .
had these vehincles been B7 than B7 armoring can defeat 7.62x54R ammunition used in weapons such as the Dragunov SVD rifle and PKM/PKP machine guns.

The APC in questions all took multiple armor piercing round hits over a period of many days even though the level of protection of the APC and armored cars (B 6) were not rated to provide protection against against such ammunition's.
So instead of pointing fingers at HIT, khi/sind police need to look at their own stupidity of ordering down graded vehicles. Now after the fc@kup sind police has now placed an order with HIT for B7 armor protection level vehicle (Mohafiz).

Junaid

bro., you have just hit the nail right on its head ...

since, we just can not simply let this kind of maligning compaign against PakisTan 's strategic organisations to go un-challenged on various info.media available to people all around the world , you've posted a much-needed rebuttal to this bull-schitt false propaganda by PakisTan's enemies against PakisTan ...

 

[Fieldmarshal]

No worries bro....good to be of service to the nation

 

[third eye]

Cannot see the reason for the fuss.

All one needs to know are the qualitative requirements the buyer gave to the manufacturer and how the product was tested before induction.

If you ask for peanuts that's what you'll get .

Cannot see the reason for the fuss.

All one needs to know are the qualitative requirements the buyer gave to the manufacturer and how the product was tested before induction.

If you ask for peanuts that's what you'll get .

 

[Fieldmarshal]

right on third eye

 

[Mav3rick]

Rebuttal : HIT mohafiz become deadly embarrassment

The most common misperception about armored cars is that they are bullet proof, which is incorrect. No armored car can be categorized as bullet proof, since all ballistic material available are rated to defeat ballistic threats within specific parameters in accordance with various international ballistic standards.

No vehicle can be made bomb/IED proof – not even a tank. Usually for low profile, up-armored commercial vehicles, the blast protection offered is described in terms of number of hand grenades or some particular small road side bombs. For APCs it is usually described in terms of quantity (in Kilograms etc) of TNT or any equivalent explosive charges.
khi/sind police had ordered B6 level armored vehicle to be manufactured by HIT
B6 armoring specifies that the material can defeat multiple 7.62x51mm assault rifle rounds. 6mm ballistic steel is used on B6 vehicles.
According to the CEN ballistic standards, materials rated at the B6 and B7 level can both defeat multiple 7.62x51mm rifle rounds, but they are rated for different types of ammunition. B7 level armoring can defeat armor piercing 7.62x51mm ammunition that are designed to penetrate armor whereas B6 level armoring cannot (B6 is the protection level of the APC and armored cars of khi/sind police) .
had these vehincles been B7 than B7 armoring can defeat 7.62x54R ammunition used in weapons such as the Dragunov SVD rifle and PKM/PKP machine guns.

The APC in questions all took multiple armor piercing round hits over a period of many days even though the level of protection of the APC and armored cars (B 6) were not rated to provide protection against against such ammunition's.
So instead of pointing fingers at HIT, khi/sind police need to look at their own stupidity of ordering down graded vehicles. Now after the fc@kup sind police has now placed an order with HIT for B7 armor protection level vehicle (Mohafiz).

Junaid

I guess nobody was expecting Liyari gang criminals to be equipped with AP rounds.

 

[Safriz]

all sophisticated illegal weapons come in karachi through afghanistan , balochistan.
Its billions worth of arms trade fascilitatec by baloch sardars such as khan of kallat.
Stop this trade for some years and starve them of weapons...then carry out clean up operations.
Btw.. Layari is mostly ethnic baloch.