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Indians once again trying to bluff the world.


Check the stone throwers. They got a new way of presting just like Palestine

I don't know what has happened to you. But your attitude here isn't in anyway discussion friendly. Take a break and relax. Then you say Indians start trolling. Look at your post and just think what its inviting.
 
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Everybody had condemned that and even Kashmir Hurriat Leader Ali Shah Gillani had condemned that and said franzied actions should not be there.


My comments are about Indian lies of claiming that some former Freedom fighters were behind it.

And BTW even if freedom fighters are supporting protest against Indian occupational forces then there is nothing wrong.

Get out of Kashmir



There are no freedom fighters only terrorists.

"Police sources said Tanveer was a former militant"

U have to understand its all chep politics of hurriyat because of which innocent kashmiri people are suffering.
 
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The terrorists are targeting = Local government, MLA, MP, administration and police are all local Kashmiri Muslims.

So whom u r asking to get out local kashmiri Muslims???

Then who will move in Osama?
 
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Baji there are all type of people in this world why hear any BS.

Did i support this kind of BS no.

Brother you did support it by posting the above news report.

No matter what differences we have on Kashmir issue atleast one should not support lies.
 
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The terrorists are targeting = Local government, MLA, MP, administration and police are all local Kashmiri Muslims.

So whom u r asking to get out local kashmiri Muslims???

Then who will move in Osama?

They are on parol of India in killing the Kashmiris.
 
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There are no freedom fighters only terrorists.

"Police sources said Tanveer was a former militant"

U have to understand its all chep politics of hurriyat because of which innocent kashmiri people are suffering.



:) militant? All those Kashmiri youth throwing stones at foreigners that is occupying Indian forces are militants??


There is nothing called militants in Held Kashmir. They are simply Freedom Fighters fighting against Indian Occupation.
 
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May be the JnK chief minister's words is not defined as Indian propoganda.

The Hindu : News / National : Vested interests fomenting trouble, says Omar Abdullah

Vested interests fomenting trouble, says Omar Abdullah

The Jammu and Kashmir government has evidence to prove that those who indulge in violence are being financed by vested interests, and they perpetrate violence not out of any ideological commitment, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah said on Wednesday.

Commenting on the recent upsurge in protests in Srinagar and other parts of Kashmir, Mr. Abdullah told newspersons in Jammu that when hartals and lockouts were coupled with acts that damaged the property and endangered the lives of people, a democratic means of protests became an unfortunate tool of violence. “The government is determined to maintain law and order,” he said, calling for support from the people and political parties.

During the course of the investigation, “we have nabbed some culprits who are being interrogated at present. It has been prima facie established that stone-throwers are being financed. The investigation is on, and the government will soon come out with facts and unmask the sponsors,” he said. Referring to the quick action taken in the killing of a 16-year-old boy Zahid Farooq at Nishat, Mr. Abdullah said he had made it clear on many occasions that instead of raising slogans and a false cry over issues, he was quietly taking action to resolve problems and deliver justice. “In this particular case, by swiftly identifying the accused — a record in 20 years of militancy in the State — we have replied many questions raised against the government, but the full reply will be when the accused gets severe punishment through the court of law.”

Mr. Abdullah expressed the hope that the government’s speedy action would smoothen the sentiments and have a salutary effect on the people. “Law and order problems put the public to inconvenience, mainly affecting students, small traders, labourers and shopkeepers,” he said.
 
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TOI Feed. Dated 28th Feb 2010

KASHMIR’S STONE AGE



The guns have fallen silent in Kashmir; stones have become the weapon of choice for angry young men without jobs or hope


Sameer Arshad in New Delhi & M Saleem Pandit in Srinagar | TNN


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One chilly day in January, Inayat Khan, 16, left his house in Srinagar’s Dalgate locality for a tutorial class. Hours later, he was dead. Khan’s killing, in alleged CRPF firing, triggered angry street protests. For weeks, protesters pelted the police with stones. Two more youths — 17-year-old Waqim Farooq and 16-year-old Zahid Farooq — were killed when the police retaliated.

The violent protests have followed a distinct pattern over the last few years, even as militant violence in the Valley has ebbed to a 20-year low. This is how it happens: an incident sparks stone-pelting followed by police action which leads to injury and sometimes death. Often, the stone-pelting degenerates into a full-blown riot; a police clampdown brings calm but only until the next cycle of action and reaction.

The police maintain that the separatists “orchestrate the stone-throwing protests at a few places to keep the pot boiling’’ because the back of the militant movement is effectively broken. The police claim is backed by casualty figures: civilian deaths plummeted to 74 in 2009, compared to 707 in 2004. That’s when the violence started to dip, following the start of the India-Pakistan peace process.

Jammu & Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah says intelligence agencies have recorded conversations from militant control centres seeking updates on stonepelting. “This could just be out of curiosity. We’ll not be irresponsible to only point fingers at people across the border,’’ he told STOI from Jammu.


Omar believes a combination of factors is responsible for the stone-pelting and it would be naïve to say it’s only driven by vested interests. “It’s important to underline that only a few places in the Valley are troubled, while Gulmarg and other places are buzzing with tourists. I can count the troublespots on my fingertips — old town Baramulla, Sopore and a few places in downtown Srinagar.’’ Incidentally, these are separatist-dominated areas where the National Conference has been traditionally weak.

But activists say the problem is not quite that simple. They want the anger to be “contextualized”. The protests, they say, are
a manifestation of the government’s failure to end the security forces’ impunity for abuse of civilians. “These boys have grown up fearing the uniform and now express their hate by stoning,’’ says Meenakshi Ganguly, senior South Asia researcher for Human Rights Watch. “They’ve grown up witnessing violence and are the product of widespread abuse and oppression,’’ she says. “Accountability would ensure that vested interests would no longer be able to incite violence.’’

The word on the street is an unequivocal ‘yes’. Riyaz Ahmed Khan, a 16-year-old from Rajouri Kadal neighbourhood, often joins the stone-pelters. He admits the constant presence of securitymen is an irritant. Riyaz Bhat, 16, says he has no ambition but to “fight for my motherland (Kashmir)”. Bhat lives in a congested lower middle class locality and his father, a coppersmith, can barely make ends meet.

The story of yet another 16-year-old, Firoz Ahmed Khan of Maisuma in old Srinagar, is no different. This is often described as the ‘ground zero’ of the stone-throwing protests. Khan lives with his family in a small house shared with three other families. His father, Zahoor Khan, sells second-hand clothes on a Srinagar pavement. Rather than lofty aspirations for the “motherland”, the teenager admits he pelts stones at the police to vent his frustration.


“We’re allowed to put up our stall only after paying hafta to the cops,’’ he says. “Even after that, they take away part of our earnings.’’ His mother, Mymoona, worries about her son’s safety. “I try to stop him. But he’s innocent and gets carried away,’’ she says. “My son was locked up several times but he refuses to give up.’’

In an interaction with this paper last year, Omar admitted the security forces’ mindset needed to be altered. “The cops (who were) comfortable with the lathi have retired over the last 20 years. Now, we have police personnel trained in a counter-insurgency mindset. We need to switch back to a law and order mindset,’’ he said. “You can’t deal with stone-pelters with live ammunition.’’

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Analysts say the relative calm in the Valley hasn’t translated into a tangible political resolution. Nor has there been any progress on the revocation of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, an election promise made by both the PDP and NC. This fuels the anger. Add to this the feeling among many Kashmiri youths that there’s no future for them. “From here, it’s a small step to the depression that has become so common,’’ notes Briton Justine Hardy, who runs a mental health clinic in Srinagar (see accompanying essay).

She says the state continues to produce many graduates and quality education is available.

“Yet there are no jobs for the vast majority, which leads to boredom; in a generation conditioned by violence, this can make the young fodder for radicalization.’’

New Delhi’s largesse in terms of addressing economic isolation has meant little, thanks to pandemic corruption. J&K is ranked the second-most corrupt state in India. Even though it gets more money than most other states, little actually gets to the end-user.

Experts also underline the need to bridge the gap between the government and its people. “The government needs to strengthen its base at the grassroots level and ensure the developmental programmes reach the common people,’’ says columnist Javid Iqbal.

The death of an 11-day-old baby, after stone-pelters clashed with his parents in Baramulla, has led to a backlash against stone-pelting, with even the hawkish

Syed Ali Shah Geelani condemning it. The separatist leader, who has often described the stone-pelters as “resistance forces”, said, “We will take a stronger line against the youth; no civilized society would allow it.’’



The influential local daily Rising Kashmir questioned the separatists’ silence and called for outright condemnation of the stonepelting. “(The) community elders (should) admonish the youth who are part of such frenzied mobs who show no respect to civilian lives and treat them as if they’re combatants,’’ the newspaper editorialized. It said the stonepelters had even attacked ambulances.



A local resident, Inayat Ahmed, says most people want to get on with their lives. “Offering a better future is the only way to ensure that youngsters aren’t radicalized.’’

Omar admits there is much to be done. “The government is trying to address issues (such as employment). (But) it’s all linked to the security environment. It becomes a chicken-and-egg story: Do I first get investments into the state or hope to get the situation better?’’
 
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Let Kashmiris decide that not India or Pakistan.

Well India considers Kashmiri people as Indians.

Anyways, JnK police is full of local guys. I also posted interview from cheif ministers as well. Please don't say he too is on India's parole.

Interestingly, anyone who does not belong to stupid theory is either a RAW agent or on Indian parole!! :disagree:
 
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:) militant? All those Kashmiri youth throwing stones at foreigners that is occupying Indian forces are militants??


There is nothing called militants in Held Kashmir. They are simply Freedom Fighters fighting against Indian Occupation.

read again "former" militant i.e. he have surrendered weapons as a active militant and now soft terror his job.

Because local people afraid from former gun toting terrorist so they goons terriorise locals and calls bandh for it they are heavily paid.
 
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:) militant? All those Kashmiri youth throwing stones at foreigners that is occupying Indian forces are militants??


There is nothing called militants in Held Kashmir. They are simply Freedom Fighters fighting against Indian Occupation.

The JnK police is made of local peoples. So I don't know what kind of foreigners are present there.
 
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Real face of Kashmir separatist exposed. Read the news below. The agents of foreign funded Hurriyat are enemy of Kashmiri people and local Muslims.

They have even does not respect women and children die because of them.


Baby-death stone squad held
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Srinagar, March 1: Four bandh enforcers allegedly involved in last week’s death of a 11-day-old ailing infant during a Baramulla protest have been arrested, days after the incident triggered outrage across the country.

“Tanveer Ahmad Saleh, Bilal Ahmad Channa, Akhtar Hussain Bhat and Mohammed Ramzan Siraj have been arrested in connection with the murder of the baby. Tanveer was the person who dragged the infant’s mother out of the vehicle,” Jammu and Kashmir law minister Ali Mohammad Sagar told the Assembly today.

The baby, Irfan, died on February 22 after he slipped and fell when the bandh enforcers dragged his mother out of a minibus while enforcing a shutdown at Chakla village in Baramulla. Police had said the baby suffered internal injuries. The family of Irfan — his father, mother, grandfather and elder sibling — were on way to hospital for his treatment. Obaid, Irfan’s four-year-old brother, was injured in the head.

Police sources said Tanveer was a former militant, and was leading one of the many stone-throwing mobs — who have become as big a challenge as militancy for the government — which clashed with cops that day. “We have booked him on murder charges. He is from a business family which owns a hotel in Baramulla,” an officer said.

It is not clear whether Tanveer and others acted on their own, at the behest of separatists or a mainstream political party. The government has accused the People’s Democratic Party, the principal Opposition party, of encouraging stone-throwing and separatist leaders of paying trouble-makers to stoke unrest in the Valley. But many youths who have joined the protests claim they do it for ideological reasons.

In the House, the law minister’s statement didn’t satisfy the PDP members, who asked the government to specify the motives of those arrested for the baby-death incident. But Sagar claimed “everyone in Baramulla knows the background of the four accused”, stopping short of blaming any political party for the incident.

No political party in the Valley called for a shutdown against Irfan’s death, though the incident had sparked outrage across the country, rocked the Assembly and prompted a vow by chief minister Omar Abdullah to have the culprits arrested. PDP chief Mehbooba Mufti had demanded a discussion and her party accused the government of raising a “counter-stone pelters’ force” to deal with stone-throwing youths.

The announcement about the arrests came on a day the Valley observed another shutdown called by Hurriyat hardliner Syed Ali Shah Geelani against the destruction of houses in Sopore during an encounter between militants and security forces last week. Four army personnel, including a Captain, and two militants had died.

Infant dies in attack by protesters in Kashmir

This shows PDP and Hurriyat's real face, if there is a death by police firing on militant mob they calls for bandh and makes a large hue and cry.

When they them self killed a ailing baby going to hospital and misbehaved with a lady. Why it is so baby Irfan was a Kashmiri Muslim or not? Why this hypocrisy?

One person gets killed by separatists by accidents and they become enemies of muslims, what about the Indian military that has been consistently been killing and raping unarmed innocents for the past 62 years ?
 
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TOI Feed. Dated 28th Feb 2010

KASHMIR’S STONE AGE



The guns have fallen silent in Kashmir; stones have become the weapon of choice for angry young men without jobs or hope


Sameer Arshad in New Delhi & M Saleem Pandit in Srinagar | TNN


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One chilly day in January, Inayat Khan, 16, left his house in Srinagar’s Dalgate locality for a tutorial class. Hours later, he was dead. Khan’s killing, in alleged CRPF firing, triggered angry street protests. For weeks, protesters pelted the police with stones. Two more youths — 17-year-old Waqim Farooq and 16-year-old Zahid Farooq — were killed when the police retaliated.

The violent protests have followed a distinct pattern over the last few years, even as militant violence in the Valley has ebbed to a 20-year low. This is how it happens: an incident sparks stone-pelting followed by police action which leads to injury and sometimes death. Often, the stone-pelting degenerates into a full-blown riot; a police clampdown brings calm but only until the next cycle of action and reaction.

The police maintain that the separatists “orchestrate the stone-throwing protests at a few places to keep the pot boiling’’ because the back of the militant movement is effectively broken. The police claim is backed by casualty figures: civilian deaths plummeted to 74 in 2009, compared to 707 in 2004. That’s when the violence started to dip, following the start of the India-Pakistan peace process.

Jammu & Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah says intelligence agencies have recorded conversations from militant control centres seeking updates on stonepelting. “This could just be out of curiosity. We’ll not be irresponsible to only point fingers at people across the border,’’ he told STOI from Jammu.


Omar believes a combination of factors is responsible for the stone-pelting and it would be naïve to say it’s only driven by vested interests. “It’s important to underline that only a few places in the Valley are troubled, while Gulmarg and other places are buzzing with tourists. I can count the troublespots on my fingertips — old town Baramulla, Sopore and a few places in downtown Srinagar.’’ Incidentally, these are separatist-dominated areas where the National Conference has been traditionally weak.

But activists say the problem is not quite that simple. They want the anger to be “contextualized”. The protests, they say, are
a manifestation of the government’s failure to end the security forces’ impunity for abuse of civilians. “These boys have grown up fearing the uniform and now express their hate by stoning,’’ says Meenakshi Ganguly, senior South Asia researcher for Human Rights Watch. “They’ve grown up witnessing violence and are the product of widespread abuse and oppression,’’ she says. “Accountability would ensure that vested interests would no longer be able to incite violence.’’

The word on the street is an unequivocal ‘yes’. Riyaz Ahmed Khan, a 16-year-old from Rajouri Kadal neighbourhood, often joins the stone-pelters. He admits the constant presence of securitymen is an irritant. Riyaz Bhat, 16, says he has no ambition but to “fight for my motherland (Kashmir)”. Bhat lives in a congested lower middle class locality and his father, a coppersmith, can barely make ends meet.

The story of yet another 16-year-old, Firoz Ahmed Khan of Maisuma in old Srinagar, is no different. This is often described as the ‘ground zero’ of the stone-throwing protests. Khan lives with his family in a small house shared with three other families. His father, Zahoor Khan, sells second-hand clothes on a Srinagar pavement. Rather than lofty aspirations for the “motherland”, the teenager admits he pelts stones at the police to vent his frustration.


“We’re allowed to put up our stall only after paying hafta to the cops,’’ he says. “Even after that, they take away part of our earnings.’’ His mother, Mymoona, worries about her son’s safety. “I try to stop him. But he’s innocent and gets carried away,’’ she says. “My son was locked up several times but he refuses to give up.’’

In an interaction with this paper last year, Omar admitted the security forces’ mindset needed to be altered. “The cops (who were) comfortable with the lathi have retired over the last 20 years. Now, we have police personnel trained in a counter-insurgency mindset. We need to switch back to a law and order mindset,’’ he said. “You can’t deal with stone-pelters with live ammunition.’’

5aa90c3f369e80005e2a607242382ef1.jpg


Analysts say the relative calm in the Valley hasn’t translated into a tangible political resolution. Nor has there been any progress on the revocation of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, an election promise made by both the PDP and NC. This fuels the anger. Add to this the feeling among many Kashmiri youths that there’s no future for them. “From here, it’s a small step to the depression that has become so common,’’ notes Briton Justine Hardy, who runs a mental health clinic in Srinagar (see accompanying essay).

She says the state continues to produce many graduates and quality education is available.

“Yet there are no jobs for the vast majority, which leads to boredom; in a generation conditioned by violence, this can make the young fodder for radicalization.’’

New Delhi’s largesse in terms of addressing economic isolation has meant little, thanks to pandemic corruption. J&K is ranked the second-most corrupt state in India. Even though it gets more money than most other states, little actually gets to the end-user.

Experts also underline the need to bridge the gap between the government and its people. “The government needs to strengthen its base at the grassroots level and ensure the developmental programmes reach the common people,’’ says columnist Javid Iqbal.

The death of an 11-day-old baby, after stone-pelters clashed with his parents in Baramulla, has led to a backlash against stone-pelting, with even the hawkish

Syed Ali Shah Geelani condemning it. The separatist leader, who has often described the stone-pelters as “resistance forces”, said, “We will take a stronger line against the youth; no civilized society would allow it.’’



The influential local daily Rising Kashmir questioned the separatists’ silence and called for outright condemnation of the stonepelting. “(The) community elders (should) admonish the youth who are part of such frenzied mobs who show no respect to civilian lives and treat them as if they’re combatants,’’ the newspaper editorialized. It said the stonepelters had even attacked ambulances.



A local resident, Inayat Ahmed, says most people want to get on with their lives. “Offering a better future is the only way to ensure that youngsters aren’t radicalized.’’

Omar admits there is much to be done. “The government is trying to address issues (such as employment). (But) it’s all linked to the security environment. It becomes a chicken-and-egg story: Do I first get investments into the state or hope to get the situation better?’’



Why r u shouting?????????

Calm down i know few want to defend ali shah gilani.

The above post proves that omer abdulla saying we are not blaming pakistan for stone pelting, so its shows maturity.

And about corruption in local government is it GoI's fault what should GoI do make Kashmir a centrally administered Tertiary?
 
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