Rajapaksa sets out on an Aryan quest

[Saradiel]

Mr Bhadrakumar 's opinions may flew tangential many times ..but often he does make some valid and neat observations .
Agreed , gist of his article as well as title is provocative and stupid ...but the specifics of Sino-Sri Lankan engagement that he has raised are quite worrisome for India .

The chinese Lankan coorperation and defence ties are bloated in indian media. You dont here but india and SL defence ties are there as well though not much published in indian media. for the simple reason such ties would come under attack from your lunatic fringe in TN

Damn the Chinese Airforce delegation in Sri Lanka. Thank you Congress you MFer idiots. Rahul you idiot. Sonia you idiot. Priyanka you enuch.


We blew a massive oppotunity to neutralize our immeidate neighborhood. We royally screwed ourselves. I heard thru a thick grapevine, there are some indications of an imminent attack on Rajapaksa by pro LTTE elements. It seems the whole govt is targeted. In the mass confusion that occurs afterwards, it seems India will have to step in to stop the atrocities and civil war that will engulf the island. Great opportunity for India to make Sri Lanka another state formally.

@Indo-guy ,


Shame on you, for depriving @manlion from a chance to post this Article.

seriously as soon as i saw the thread i thought it was manlion.

What's with the excessive use of Aryan and Dravidian in Tamil and Sri Lankan political discourse?

I mean in J&K, you don't see people talking about Dardic Indo-Aryans vs Northwest Indo-Aryans lol. So why the the excessive use of Aryan vs Dravidian?

do u see that article as a proper discourse on SLn political issue? There is no Indo aryan vs dravidian thing in SL. What is in SL i would call result of linguistic nationalism

Sinhalas and Tamils has a history of not liking each other, some sort of Hinduphobia also exists among Sinhala because of dislike for Tamils, . They think since they speak some Indo-Aryan language and assume North Indians would be more inclined to 'Indo-Aryan' Sinhalas compared to Tamils.

If you speak about SL conflict get knowledgable about it.
There is no Hinduphobia among sinhala. Actually Hindu temples are inside Buddhist temples as well. In an average Buddhist house you will see a statue of Ganesh, Saraswathi, Vishnu. They worship them along side Buddha though the philosophies are quite different.

so the notion Sinhala people have a hinduphobia is a lie. Propagated mainly by Eelamists thinking they can use it as a tool in diplomacy.

I dont think Sinhala ppl tend to thing North indians are inclined towards them, where did you find this garbage. Actually Sinhala people think of india as an ally of LTTE terrorism and tamils. And some sinhala people tried to remove Sanskrit words from sinhala lanuage and started only using old words of ancient Sinhala or elu as they call it.

 

[Saradiel]

It is true that Sinhala language is derived from the Indo-aryan, albeit having developed seperately for millenia - hence it is classified as being an insular Indic language. The people themselves are not Indo-aryan, but a mixture of original inhabitants of the island with some mingling with Indo aryans a long time back.

However it is ludicrous to look at their issues or relationship with India from an aryan-dravidian perspective. Heck, even we Indians hardly use such distinctions in our day to day lives or politics. To expect that SL would get favourable treatment because the present govt is ''aryan" is just balderdash. (BTW was MMS ''dravidian''?)

At most, their racial issues can be characterized as Sinhala v/s Tamils. Not aryan v/s dravidian or any such fanciful concotion.

To begin with he is wrong, there is no aryan dravidiann aspect to SL conflict. But eelamists try to show like that as obvious from manlion fellow here

hoax to 'some' perhaps but not to Sinhala Buddhists, brain washed by their 1000 year old Sinhala Buddhism chronicle - Mahavamsa , identifies Sinhala Buddhism as an Aryan religion , Sinhalas as Aryans and the Tamils as Dravidians - pagans who need to be driven out of their pure Sinhala Buddhist homeland

The leader of the band was an Aryan prince by the name of Wijaya, and he fought with the aboriginal tribes and got possession of the land. The descendants of the Aryan colonists were called Sinhala after their city, Sinhapura, which was founded by Sinhabahu, the lion-armed king. The lion-armed descendants are the present Sinhalese, whose ancestors had never been conquered, and in whose veins no savage blood is found. Ethnologically, the Sinhalese are a unique race, inasmuch as they can boast that they have no slave blood in them, and never were conquered by either the pagan Tamils or European vandals who for three centuries devasted the land, destroyed ancient temples, burnt valuable libraries, and nearly annihilated the
historic race.

Mahâvamsa und Tradition/Ideologie

How can a religion be an Aryan religion? There is no religion called Sinhala Buddhism to begin with. And tamils were not Pagans. The tamils in SL are either Hindu or Christian. The only culture you will see Pagan elements is Sinhala culture like Shanthikarma, Bali thovil. There is none like that among tamils. Just borrowed stuff from india

I told you once Vijaya story is not believed among sinhala people. They educated ones treat it as a hoax. But the ones who clinginto it are the tamils. because using vijaya story they can call Sinhala people as some immigrants from india. Mahavamsa is wrong in that aspect and historians think the initial part if a hoax and just legends.

 

[Gibbs]

Funny *** thread..

 

[Indischer]

What's with the excessive use of Aryan and Dravidian in Tamil and Sri Lankan political discourse?

I mean in J&K, you don't see people talking about Dardic Indo-Aryans vs Northwest Indo-Aryans lol. So why the the excessive use of Aryan vs Dravidian?

Because Dardic or Northwest, you're all Indo-Aryan. We South Indians aren't. WE'RE DRAVIDIANS AND WE'RE MARGINALIZED!!

It is true that Sinhala language is derived from the Indo-aryan, albeit having developed seperately for millenia - hence it is classified as being an insular Indic language. The people themselves are not Indo-aryan, but a mixture of original inhabitants of the island with some mingling with Indo aryans a long time back.

However it is ludicrous to look at their issues or relationship with India from an aryan-dravidian perspective. Heck, even we Indians hardly use such distinctions in our day to day lives or politics. To expect that SL would get favourable treatment because the present govt is ''aryan" is just balderdash. (BTW was MMS ''dravidian''?)

At most, their racial issues can be characterized as Sinhala v/s Tamils. Not aryan v/s dravidian or any such fanciful concotion.

Well, this Govt might indeed take a few bold(and good, if I might add) steps towards better ties with Sri Lanka. For a refreshing change, none of the Tamil Parties have their palm around the b@lls of the Cental Govt. Their little squeeze won't hurt anyone in New Delhi.

 

[manlion]

How can a religion be an Aryan religion? There is no religion called Sinhala Buddhism to begin with.

Colombo, Sri Lanka -- The Buddhism practiced in Sri Lanka, better known as Sinhala-Buddhism (or Mahavamsa-Buddhism) is different from the Theravada Buddhism practiced in other countries such as Thailand, Cambodia and so on

Sri Lanka | From Sinhala-Buddhism to Civilized Buddhism

either you are an ignorant Sinhala Buddhist or one living in denial. The link I posted was based on the speech by Sinhala Buddhist nationalist Anagrika Dharmapala based on Mahavamsa teachings in Chicago @ the Word Parliament of religion in 1893

Dharmapala

If you have dispute - challenge him and your current bunch of neo Nazi Sinhala Buddhist fascists, and not cunningly drag in LTTE. Tamils fought your Sinhala Buddhist hegemony and be assured will continue the fight without your Indian Aryan blood cousins support

The Mahavamsa makes the following points

1) SIN- halas are Aryan migrants from Bengal
2) Sinhala Buddhism as an Aryn religion
3) Tamils are pagans who are threat to the survival of Sinhala Buddhism and thus need to be exterminated, that's why Dutu Gamunu waged war against the Tamil Hindu kings in Anuradhpura and drove the Hindus to the NE
4) Lanka is homeland of pure Sinhala Buddhism

Extract from Dharmapala speech in Chicago in 1893 - based on the Mahavamsa teachings

Two thousand four hundred and forty-six years ago a colony of Aryans from the city of Sinhapura, in Bengal, leaving their Indian home, sailed in a vessel in search of fresh pastures, and they discovered the island which they named Tambapanni, on account of its copper coloured soil. The leader of the band was an Aryan prince by the name of Wijaya,.

The descendants of the Aryan colonists were called Sinhala after their city, Sinhapura, which was founded by Sinhabahu, the lion-armed king

The last ruler of the Sinhalese people was not a Sinhalese Prince. The man was of Dravidian origin, and the Sinhalese ministers, not finding a Sinhalese Prince to ascent the ancestral throne, had to find a ruler, and under the name of Sri Wickrama Rajah Sinha, a Dravidian, was elected

Mahâvamsa und Tradition/Ideologie

exploits of Duttu Gamunu recounted by the 8 Bikkus - arahats, over his victory of killing 30 Tamil kings and millions of Tamils- from Mahavamsa

Only one and a half human beings have been slain here by thee O Lord of men. The one had come unto the refuge the other had taken on himself the five precepts. Unbelievers and men of evil life were the rest, no more to be esteemed than beasts

And tamils were not Pagans. The tamils in SL are either Hindu or Christian. The only culture you will see Pagan elements is Sinhala culture like Shanthikarma, Bali thovil. There is none like that among tamils. Just borrowed stuff from india

Details on the no Hindu temples destroyed, controlled by army or turn into Buddhist temples in the pretext of fighting Tamil terrorism - refer to link below

Destruction of Hindu Temples in Sri Lanka | Hindu Human Rights Online News Magazine

I told you once Vijaya story is not believed among sinhala people. They educated ones treat it as a hoax. But the ones who clinginto it are the tamils. because using vijaya story they can call Sinhala people as some immigrants from india. Mahavamsa is wrong in that aspect and historians think the initial part if a hoax and just legends.

Name me 1 prominent Sinhala Buddhist 'educated' leader who had challenged the Wijaya hoax and defied Sinhala Buddhist hegemony , thank you

 

[Saradiel]

Sri Lanka | From Sinhala-Buddhism to Civilized Buddhism

either you are an ignorant Sinhala Buddhist or one living in denial. The link I posted was based on the speech by Sinhala Buddhist nationalist Anagrika Dharmapala based on Mahavamsa teachings in Chicago @ the Word Parliament of religion in 1893

Dharmapala

If you have dispute - challenge him and your current bunch of neo Nazi Sinhala Buddhist fascists, and not cunningly drag in LTTE. Tamils fought your Sinhala Buddhist hegemony and be assured will continue the fight without your Indian Aryan blood cousins support

The Mahavamsa makes the following points

1) SIN- halas are Aryan migrants from Bengal
2) Sinhala Buddhism as an Aryn religion
3) Tamils are pagans who are threat to the survival of Sinhala Buddhism and thus need to be exterminated, that's why Dutu Gamunu waged war against the Tamil Hindu kings in Anuradhpura and drove the Hindus to the NE
4) Lanka is homeland of pure Sinhala Buddhism

Extract from Dharmapala speech in Chicago in 1893 - based on the Mahavamsa teachings









Mahâvamsa und Tradition/Ideologie

exploits of Duttu Gamunu recounted by the 8 Bikkus - arahats, over his victory of killing 30 Tamil kings and millions of Tamils- from Mahavamsa

Only one and a half human beings have been slain here by thee O Lord of men. The one had come unto the refuge the other had taken on himself the five precepts. Unbelievers and men of evil life were the rest, no more to be esteemed than beasts

Details on the no Hindu temples destroyed, controlled by army or turn into Buddhist temples in the pretext of fighting Tamil terrorism - refer to link below

Destruction of Hindu Temples in Sri Lanka | Hindu Human Rights Online News Magazine




Name me 1 prominent Sinhala Buddhist 'educated' leader who had challenged the Wijaya hoax and defied Sinhala Buddhist hegemony , thank you

You didnt get the point right? mahavamsa says so, but Mahavamsa is wrong!