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'Radioactive leakage' spreads panic in Delhi shop

blueoval79, your government must take notice of these types of conditions despite of blaming it's neighbors. As there are many news on stealing of indian nuke material along with the radio active leakage from your side.

which country would like to steal cobalt 60 when every country is willing to share in to them????

almost every country have access to cobalt 60..............as it is used in treatment of cancer
 
IAEA is taking notice. So does the countries like US, Russia, France. Canada, south Korea etc. They have taken so much notice that they have entered into nuclear deals with India.

yaaaa...may be due to their entrance, condition of your nukes get better.....
 
so you want India to stop using cobalt 60 to treat cancer??????

topic is about cobalt 60 leakage , not insurgencies in india.

why you are bringing nukes in it???

even non-nuclear power countries have access to cobalt 60............

Hoping to read something good from you.
thanks

He doesn't know anything about radio active substances. Thats why he is bringing loose nukes, insurgencies and what not.
 
someone seriously needs to know the difference between nuclear material and radioactive material... :what:

Senseless posting won't get you anywhere, study a little first.
 
yaaaa...may be due to their entrance, condition of your nukes get better.....

They not here to provide nuclear bombs.

The civil nuclear agreement is to bring nuclear energy technologies and nuclear plants which can generate something called "electricity". Have a look around in this forum, spend some time reading, then come back and post comments so that it can make some sense.
 
This so called radio active material is most probably a source used for industrial X-ray. Mainly used for scanning welded pipeline joints (Non Destructive Testing) -- nothing to do with nuclear leakage :hitwall:
 
someone seriously needs to know the difference between nuclear material and radioactive material... :what:

Senseless posting won't get you anywhere, study a little first.

well read this....may be you will get ur ans.

Radioactive waste is a waste product containing radioactive material. It is usually the product of a nuclear process such as nuclear fission though industries not directly connected to the nuclear industry may also produce quantities of radioactive waste. The majority of radioactive waste is "low-level waste", meaning it contains low levels of radioactivity per mass or volume.

Radioactivity by definition reduces over time, so in principle the waste needs to be isolated for a period of time - which, in the worst case scenario, could be as much as 300,000 years - until its components no longer pose a hazard. This can mean hours to years for some common medical or industrial radioactive wastes or many thousands of years for high-level wastes. The main approaches to managing radioactive waste to date have been segregation and storage for short-lived wastes, near-surface disposal for low and some intermediate level wastes, and deep and secure burial for the long-lived high-level wastes.

source wikipedia


The simplest kind is an atomic bomb. Like a nuclear power plant, it releases great quantities of energy through a process called nuclear fission, or 'splitting', of a large unstable (radioactive) element like uranium or plutonium.
A more complicated type is the hydrogen bomb, or thermonuclear bomb, which releases an even greater quantity of energy through nuclear fusion, a process which has not yet been put to peaceful uses.
 
someone seriously needs to know the difference between nuclear material and radioactive material... :what:

Senseless posting won't get you anywhere, study a little first.

someone thinks that x-ray machines can be used as nukes:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
They not here to provide nuclear bombs.

The civil nuclear agreement is to bring nuclear energy technologies and nuclear plants which can generate something called "electricity". Have a look around in this forum, spend some time reading, then come back and post comments so that it can make some sense.

well don't you think that civil nuclear plant also needs radio active material to generate electricity.
 
well read this....may be you will get ur ans.

Radioactive waste is a waste product containing radioactive material. It is usually the product of a nuclear process such as nuclear fission though industries not directly connected to the nuclear industry may also produce quantities of radioactive waste. The majority of radioactive waste is "low-level waste", meaning it contains low levels of radioactivity per mass or volume.

Radioactivity by definition reduces over time, so in principle the waste needs to be isolated for a period of time - which, in the worst case scenario, could be as much as 300,000 years - until its components no longer pose a hazard. This can mean hours to years for some common medical or industrial radioactive wastes or many thousands of years for high-level wastes. The main approaches to managing radioactive waste to date have been segregation and storage for short-lived wastes, near-surface disposal for low and some intermediate level wastes, and deep and secure burial for the long-lived high-level wastes.

source wikipedia


The simplest kind is an atomic bomb. Like a nuclear power plant, it releases great quantities of energy through a process called nuclear fission, or 'splitting', of a large unstable (radioactive) element like uranium or plutonium.
A more complicated type is the hydrogen bomb, or thermonuclear bomb, which releases an even greater quantity of energy through nuclear fusion, a process which has not yet been put to peaceful uses.

Is there not any difference between radioactive substance and radioactive waste?????
You're just great. :P
 
someone thinks that x-ray machines can be used as nukes:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT X-RAY MACHINES.


Times of India reported on November 30, 2009 about radiation contamination at the Kaiga nuclear plant in Karnataka. The locals residing in surrounding area suffered with heavy damages in the shape of casualties of inhabitants and livestock worth costing in corers. Indian Prime Minister (PM) Manmohan Singh has denied any radiation leakage and said there was "nothing to worry about". He further added that he has been briefed that it is a small matter of contamination and is not linked to any leak.

In this regard global nuke experts really got astonished over Indian PM statement in which he tried to tone down the most serious crisis of India i.e. Safety and security of Indian Nuke Plants . Should we consider that Manmohan Singh statement is a mater of poor knowledge or extremists Hindu lobby present in the government deliberately reluctant to share confidential nature of information to their Sikh PM. Indian Intelligence Agencies did not even timely confirm to their PM about the involvement of minorities’ killer “Lt Col Prohit’ and elimination of their loving son “LTTE Chief Prabharkan”. In this regard, Sikh community has kept on stressing to Indian government to punish the real culprits and publish the investigations report in connection with the brutality against Sikhs in 1984. The poor Sikh community does not know that their PM probably cannot even review the sensitive nature of information about nuke and investigation reports on communal violence.

Indian intelligence agencies again embraced their rulers on the issue of Ajmal Kassab too. The agencies did not inform ruling authorities that actual culprits of Mumbai attack have been killed in the encounter. According to Indian media, arrested main accused in a dramatic retracted from his earlier statement and claimed he was forcibly made to confess. Thus, we can only say that Indian PM should show some assertiveness to control her intelligence agencies and nuke programme.

Coming back to the title I would like to disclose that Kaiga incident is not the first accident which cropped up on November 30 this year. In this connection, 300 cases of similar nature have already been accounted for in their record. kaiga plant incident is not a simple case of leakage. The Initial investigation disclosed that it was possibly an act of mischief and security breach too. Prithviraj Chavan, Minister of State in the Prime Minister`s Office, also confirmed in New Delhi while talking to the press that it was a breach of some security measures.

In fact, poor security arrangements have been noticed on various Indian nuke plants. One can astonished to know that there are certain important places where security cameras are not even installed .The employees working on the nuke plants have been found in stealing and selling Uranium in the local market. According to Hindustan Times, Navi Mumbai Crime Branch arrested three people — Panvel-based gemologist Premsingh Savitri (40), Vashi-based transporter Srinivas Puryar and Ghatkopar resident Tulsidas Bhanushali a dealer in gunny bags — for illegal possession of 5 kg of depleted uranium. As per police Savitri was a former constable. The police are trying to ascertain from where how Savitri had stolen the Uranium. Earlier too, John Khongmin, son of an Atomic Mineral Division (AMD) employee and one of those accused of stealing uranium “yellowcake” with seals of the AMD but Government of India failed to take actions for the safety and security of the nuke plants .

IAEA is also well aware of poor security measures of Indian nuke plants. These arrangements are deploring day by day as we know that few years ago, a similar malicious act was also observed in Tarapur atomic power sub-station where the culprits were dismissed after investigations by the Department of Atomic Energy. In December 1952 US sold Tarapur reactors suffered with the accident and area up to Tarapur Railway Station got contaminated with nuclear radiation. Many engineers got exposed to radiation and died.

On June 13, 2009 Indian famous nuke scientist Lokanathan Mahalingam found dead from Kali River. The scientist was working on Kaiga Atomic Power Station since last eight years. Reportedly, he was in possession of highly sensitive information and might be doubted for Indian nuke proliferation. Mahalingam was involved in training apprentices on a replica of the actual reactor.

It would not be wrong if we say that Indian authorities are least pushed about the safety of their public. The concerned authorities never bothered on the proper disposal of nuke waste .The rulers are busy in point scoring on the opposition while concluding more and more nuclear pacts with other countries on the cost of the health of general public. For example according to “Times of India “report of October, 2009: The Gujarat Pollution Control Board has admitted that the 18,503 metric tonne US toxic ship, Platinum II, parked in Bhavnagar waters for dismantling at Alang contains more than 20 MT of Poly Chlorinated Bi-Phenyls or PCBs, aggravating the dilemma that the Centre has faced since the toxic ship reached Indian waters. The report further disclosed that the presence of the ship is volatile of the Basel Convention which bars signatory countries like India from accepting such toxic wastes from countries which have not signed off on the international pact. Poor Gujarat government did not able to ask US toxic ship to turn back or stay out of India`s waters since central government has recently concluded Civil Nuclear Deal 123 with USA.

Gujrat government tried to hide the actual facts from the people while saying that ship could break up on the high waters. Most probably Indian public do not aware of the fact that how much precarious these toxic agents to human and animal lives. Indian people should know that USA has used orange colour toxic agent in Vietnam War. These were first developed by the U.S. Army as an instrument of chemical warfare at Fort Detrick, Maryland. These agents were proven to be very deadly to the plants and life when tested for production on mass scale. Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara suggested further testing be done on jungle vegetation during the Vietnam War. Once the programme was called to a halt in 1971, herbicides had destroyed an estimated 4.5 million acres of countryside. Now the same ship has been sent to India for dismantling without realizing that how much dangerous would be for the sea life. Indian public must think that why such type of dismantling could not be done in American Sea. In this connection the public and Indian leadership should know the conclusion of Vietnam veteran Mr. Paul Reutershan. He concluded that his terminal cancer could be traced to his extensive exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam.

Similarly accidents of keiga and Tarapur plants have left very dreadful signs over the inhabitants of effected area. Contaminated drinking water, leakage of radiation in Keiga and Tarapur nuke plants caused irrecoverable losses to the lives and stocks. According to the Indian media the accidents also caused genetic damage to the people. There were the cases of refusal of marriage with those who linked to India’s nuclear programme as they were in the opinion that genetic damage will pass on to future generations. In this regards female engineers are suffering a lot since local males are in the opinion that marriages with them might face problems in giving birth to their next generation. There is one school of thought in India that girls have all the eggs, at the time of the birth and any exposure to radiation can damage the egg and the genetic defects can be passed on to the future generations.

Earlier too on November 11, 2006, Director of Uttaranchal Space Application Centre, Dr Anil Kumar Tiwari, was also shot dead by an unidentified person near his residence. About six weeks ago, another NPC non-technical employee Ravi Mule was found dead in the township. He too had gone for morning walk. Police have not cracked the earlier cases and similarly still is clue less in the current case of scientist.

In short, the revealing of all above such incidents do dictates that Indian government failed to establish proper command and control mechanism to deal with 17 nuke programmes. Staffs working on the nuke plants are losing confident over the higher ups. The panic in the staff working at the plants is on its climax. Agencies use to pick up the scientist and other employees on the name of safety and security. The smuggling and cases of the uranium thefts are on the top. Low paid nuke staffs and inhabitants of surrounding area of nuke plants are also worried about their health and future. IAEA should look into the problems facing to the employees and also carry out in detail inspection of Indian nuke plants. It would be more appropriate that if time being the plants be closed till making of proper security arrangements on nuke plants. World community, USA and Russian nuke experts should suggest to their governments to reconsider nuke deals with New Delhi since the later failed to ensure proper nuke safety and security arrangements. It is further added that UNO should ensure that all ships which remained in use of transportation of chemical and biological agents or carrying any related material should not be sent for dismantling to any other country. India should also return back US Toxic Ship present in high water of Gujrat (Indian start) sea.
 
well don't you think that civil nuclear plant also needs radio active material to generate electricity.

simple thing, a medicine for headache can not be used for curing hypertension......although both are medicines and are chemical substance
 
it requires a fissionable material, not just any radioactive substance.

Hey any update about the use of Thorium as the source of nuclear fuel. We had a thread dedicated to it, but nothing has been heard since. Thorium is very abundant in India and its better than the usual uranium based reactors.
 
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT X-RAY MACHINES.


Times of India reported on November 30, 2009 about radiation contamination at the Kaiga nuclear plant in Karnataka. The locals residing in surrounding area suffered with heavy damages in the shape of casualties of inhabitants and livestock worth costing in corers. Indian Prime Minister (PM) Manmohan Singh has denied any radiation leakage and said there was "nothing to worry about". He further added that he has been briefed that it is a small matter of contamination and is not linked to any leak.

In this regard global nuke experts really got astonished over Indian PM statement in which he tried to tone down the most serious crisis of India i.e. Safety and security of Indian Nuke Plants . Should we consider that Manmohan Singh statement is a mater of poor knowledge or extremists Hindu lobby present in the government deliberately reluctant to share confidential nature of information to their Sikh PM. Indian Intelligence Agencies did not even timely confirm to their PM about the involvement of minorities’ killer “Lt Col Prohit’ and elimination of their loving son “LTTE Chief Prabharkan”. In this regard, Sikh community has kept on stressing to Indian government to punish the real culprits and publish the investigations report in connection with the brutality against Sikhs in 1984. The poor Sikh community does not know that their PM probably cannot even review the sensitive nature of information about nuke and investigation reports on communal violence.

Indian intelligence agencies again embraced their rulers on the issue of Ajmal Kassab too. The agencies did not inform ruling authorities that actual culprits of Mumbai attack have been killed in the encounter. According to Indian media, arrested main accused in a dramatic retracted from his earlier statement and claimed he was forcibly made to confess. Thus, we can only say that Indian PM should show some assertiveness to control her intelligence agencies and nuke programme.

Coming back to the title I would like to disclose that Kaiga incident is not the first accident which cropped up on November 30 this year. In this connection, 300 cases of similar nature have already been accounted for in their record. kaiga plant incident is not a simple case of leakage. The Initial investigation disclosed that it was possibly an act of mischief and security breach too. Prithviraj Chavan, Minister of State in the Prime Minister`s Office, also confirmed in New Delhi while talking to the press that it was a breach of some security measures.

In fact, poor security arrangements have been noticed on various Indian nuke plants. One can astonished to know that there are certain important places where security cameras are not even installed .The employees working on the nuke plants have been found in stealing and selling Uranium in the local market. According to Hindustan Times, Navi Mumbai Crime Branch arrested three people — Panvel-based gemologist Premsingh Savitri (40), Vashi-based transporter Srinivas Puryar and Ghatkopar resident Tulsidas Bhanushali a dealer in gunny bags — for illegal possession of 5 kg of depleted uranium. As per police Savitri was a former constable. The police are trying to ascertain from where how Savitri had stolen the Uranium. Earlier too, John Khongmin, son of an Atomic Mineral Division (AMD) employee and one of those accused of stealing uranium “yellowcake” with seals of the AMD but Government of India failed to take actions for the safety and security of the nuke plants .

IAEA is also well aware of poor security measures of Indian nuke plants. These arrangements are deploring day by day as we know that few years ago, a similar malicious act was also observed in Tarapur atomic power sub-station where the culprits were dismissed after investigations by the Department of Atomic Energy. In December 1952 US sold Tarapur reactors suffered with the accident and area up to Tarapur Railway Station got contaminated with nuclear radiation. Many engineers got exposed to radiation and died.

On June 13, 2009 Indian famous nuke scientist Lokanathan Mahalingam found dead from Kali River. The scientist was working on Kaiga Atomic Power Station since last eight years. Reportedly, he was in possession of highly sensitive information and might be doubted for Indian nuke proliferation. Mahalingam was involved in training apprentices on a replica of the actual reactor.

It would not be wrong if we say that Indian authorities are least pushed about the safety of their public. The concerned authorities never bothered on the proper disposal of nuke waste .The rulers are busy in point scoring on the opposition while concluding more and more nuclear pacts with other countries on the cost of the health of general public. For example according to “Times of India “report of October, 2009: The Gujarat Pollution Control Board has admitted that the 18,503 metric tonne US toxic ship, Platinum II, parked in Bhavnagar waters for dismantling at Alang contains more than 20 MT of Poly Chlorinated Bi-Phenyls or PCBs, aggravating the dilemma that the Centre has faced since the toxic ship reached Indian waters. The report further disclosed that the presence of the ship is volatile of the Basel Convention which bars signatory countries like India from accepting such toxic wastes from countries which have not signed off on the international pact. Poor Gujarat government did not able to ask US toxic ship to turn back or stay out of India`s waters since central government has recently concluded Civil Nuclear Deal 123 with USA.

Gujrat government tried to hide the actual facts from the people while saying that ship could break up on the high waters. Most probably Indian public do not aware of the fact that how much precarious these toxic agents to human and animal lives. Indian people should know that USA has used orange colour toxic agent in Vietnam War. These were first developed by the U.S. Army as an instrument of chemical warfare at Fort Detrick, Maryland. These agents were proven to be very deadly to the plants and life when tested for production on mass scale. Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara suggested further testing be done on jungle vegetation during the Vietnam War. Once the programme was called to a halt in 1971, herbicides had destroyed an estimated 4.5 million acres of countryside. Now the same ship has been sent to India for dismantling without realizing that how much dangerous would be for the sea life. Indian public must think that why such type of dismantling could not be done in American Sea. In this connection the public and Indian leadership should know the conclusion of Vietnam veteran Mr. Paul Reutershan. He concluded that his terminal cancer could be traced to his extensive exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam.

Similarly accidents of keiga and Tarapur plants have left very dreadful signs over the inhabitants of effected area. Contaminated drinking water, leakage of radiation in Keiga and Tarapur nuke plants caused irrecoverable losses to the lives and stocks. According to the Indian media the accidents also caused genetic damage to the people. There were the cases of refusal of marriage with those who linked to India’s nuclear programme as they were in the opinion that genetic damage will pass on to future generations. In this regards female engineers are suffering a lot since local males are in the opinion that marriages with them might face problems in giving birth to their next generation. There is one school of thought in India that girls have all the eggs, at the time of the birth and any exposure to radiation can damage the egg and the genetic defects can be passed on to the future generations.

Earlier too on November 11, 2006, Director of Uttaranchal Space Application Centre, Dr Anil Kumar Tiwari, was also shot dead by an unidentified person near his residence. About six weeks ago, another NPC non-technical employee Ravi Mule was found dead in the township. He too had gone for morning walk. Police have not cracked the earlier cases and similarly still is clue less in the current case of scientist.

In short, the revealing of all above such incidents do dictates that Indian government failed to establish proper command and control mechanism to deal with 17 nuke programmes. Staffs working on the nuke plants are losing confident over the higher ups. The panic in the staff working at the plants is on its climax. Agencies use to pick up the scientist and other employees on the name of safety and security. The smuggling and cases of the uranium thefts are on the top. Low paid nuke staffs and inhabitants of surrounding area of nuke plants are also worried about their health and future. IAEA should look into the problems facing to the employees and also carry out in detail inspection of Indian nuke plants. It would be more appropriate that if time being the plants be closed till making of proper security arrangements on nuke plants. World community, USA and Russian nuke experts should suggest to their governments to reconsider nuke deals with New Delhi since the later failed to ensure proper nuke safety and security arrangements. It is further added that UNO should ensure that all ships which remained in use of transportation of chemical and biological agents or carrying any related material should not be sent for dismantling to any other country. India should also return back US Toxic Ship present in high water of Gujrat (Indian start) sea.

Nothing to discuss, so derail the thread. Great idea
 

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