Question about Turkish Coup?
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no not in jail one is in USA living in exile under USA gov protection. the rest on ground were sentenced to jail as they killed local protestors who came.
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Gulen is still living the high life in the USA.
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He lost most of his schools, his bank, various companies, his organization is crippled and its members on the run or jailed.
Whether US extradites Gülen or not his cult wont ever be able to hold foot in Turkey, they managed to do something that nobody expected, they united Conservatives and Kemalists against themselves.
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Being a friend of the USA is a very dangerous thing, you never know when they will send helicopters and gunships after you. As Saddam found out the hard way. For them, people like Gulen are a weapon to be used against their allies, same as how the USA used Tibet against China even while we were technically their allies.
I don't think Erdogan is ever going to cut his security budget ever again, especially not after that coup attempt.
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Saddam was an idiot stooge of Uncle Sam so he fell for his plot but Turkish nation and Erdogan are a different creed. They failed the coup attempt and did it very successfully because they are united and won't let any external agent to sabotage their system.
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Pakistani generals are still waiting for 7th Navy Fleet on port Dhaka or they have learned some lesson ?
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Gulen started a movement. One based on certain principples that involved islam, peace and etc. It's like a grassroot movement. and as time went it grew and gained more influence. And like many other things as long as the movement doesn't become violent it would have lived on. The problems started to arise back in 2010, when dirt on AKP and RTE came to the surface and RTE retaliated by using the state institutions.
Both sides have dirt and ways of working that aren't clean, honest and free of nepotism.
Gulens movement has learned to work the system, and take advantage of it, all within the rules of law, and sometimes bordering dangerously the illegal side.
RTE and AKP are not much different than other political parties, they're just better at being a showman to get the peoples support. We all know that the day they're not in power all the dirt will come to surface, but then again that's all politics
Now the issue with extradition is that what RTE and AKP present as proof is/or seem to be lacking or aren't real proof, but rather RTE rambling and raging.
You should however pay heed to how people are beginning to eat up these ramblings as if they're being brainwashed. The turks are pretty much losing their ability to be critical of their own leaders, but that is my opinion.
The Gulen schools around the world and other places are/were based on the same principles, and if it's a grassroot movement that changes peoples minds through education, islam, and peace then the future generations that grow up will have certain principles or understanding of the values represented.
Now I'm not defending Gulen which some might think, I am just presenting what I know about them. They take something as important as education and islam and apply it and at the same time expand their influence. The schools and those who got educations etc. are proof of this.
Very much like in the corporate/political world.
Both sides have dirt and ways of working that aren't clean, honest and free of nepotism.
Gulens movement has learned to work the system, and take advantage of it, all within the rules of law, and sometimes bordering dangerously the illegal side.
RTE and AKP are not much different than other political parties, they're just better at being a showman to get the peoples support. We all know that the day they're not in power all the dirt will come to surface, but then again that's all politics
Now the issue with extradition is that what RTE and AKP present as proof is/or seem to be lacking or aren't real proof, but rather RTE rambling and raging.
You should however pay heed to how people are beginning to eat up these ramblings as if they're being brainwashed. The turks are pretty much losing their ability to be critical of their own leaders, but that is my opinion.
The Gulen schools around the world and other places are/were based on the same principles, and if it's a grassroot movement that changes peoples minds through education, islam, and peace then the future generations that grow up will have certain principles or understanding of the values represented.
Now I'm not defending Gulen which some might think, I am just presenting what I know about them. They take something as important as education and islam and apply it and at the same time expand their influence. The schools and those who got educations etc. are proof of this.
Very much like in the corporate/political world.
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