Qadiyanies Tortured Their leader's Grandson for Reverting Back to Islam

[SekrutYakhni]

I do not think that this post will be considered hatred...

I cannot prove the authenticity but I have heard from a third source...

There was a Sunni woman living in Pakistan in bad conditions...in terms of finances...
She claimed some refugee case and went to Canada on the basis of conversion from Sunni to Qadiyani..
So when she came here… rich Qadiyani's supported her to own a shop and stuff....now she is very happy...
She said to my relative that Pakistan gave me nothing and when she converted from Sunni to Qaiyani she got everything...

The most important thing was that I could smell hatred against Pakistan in her...and the way Qadiyani's try to convert people...

1 more thing...head of Mercedes Motors in Pakistan is a Qadiyani...Shahnawaz...

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I do not think that this post will be considered hatred...

I cannot prove the authenticity but I have heard from a third source...

There was a Sunni woman living in Pakistan in bad conditions...in terms of finances...
She claimed some refugee case and went to Canada on the basis of conversion from Sunni to Qadiyani..
So when she came here… rich Qadiyani's supported her to own a shop and stuff....now she is very happy...
She said to my relative that Pakistan gave me nothing and when she converted from Sunni to Qaiyani she got everything...

The most important thing was that I could smell hatred against Pakistan in her...and the way Qadiyani's try to convert people...

1 more thing...head of Mercedes is Pakistan is Qadiyani...Shahnawaz...

There is nothing wrong with Qadianis helping out one of their own -perhaps other Muslim groups should look into doing the same?

What the Qadianis did in Canada (by helping that woman) was a good and noble deed and should be commended.

As for comments against Pakistan, many people who are mistreated in developing nations and find a way to escape the corruption and despair of their homeland to better pastures in the West think along those lines, this Pakistani woman is not alone in that.

I have met Africans, Indians and Latin Americans who would never go back because they felt they were treated so badly and had no hope for a better future in their homelands.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

There is nothing wrong with Qadianis helping out one of their own -perhaps other Muslim groups should look into doing the same?

What the Qadianis did in Canada (by helping that woman) was a good and noble deed and should be commended.

As for comments against Pakistan, many people who are mistreated in developing nations and find a way to escape the corruption and despair of their homeland to better pastures in the West think along those lines, this Pakistani woman is not alone in that.

I have met Africans, Indians and Latin Americans who would never go back because they felt they were treated so badly and had no hope for a better future in their homelands.

I know it is a noble cause but see
Giving money to someone so one can change their religion is not noble..
you know what I mean?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I know it is a noble cause but see
Giving money to someone so one can change their religion is not noble..
you know what I mean?

But according to you she changed her religion before she left Pakistan, and applied for asylum in Canada under that reason - that is not the same as being paid money to change your faith. And unless you know her heart you cannot claim conclusively why she converted.

And even if we suppose that money was the reason, what difference does it make to other 'Muslims'? One could argue that her faith was weak and therefore that is why she converted. Why do you care if someone of weak faith converts to another faith?

Eventually the judgment on an individual's faith will be made by Allah, it is none of our business. Only Allah knows what is in someones heart and whose faith is true or not.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

But according to you she changed her religion before she left Pakistan, and applied for asylum in Canada under that reason - that is not the same as being paid money to change your faith. And unless you know her heart you cannot claim conclusively why she converted.

And even if we suppose that money was the reason, what difference does it make to other 'Muslims'? One could argue that her faith was weak and therefore that is why she converted. Why do you care if someone of weak faith converts to another faith?

Eventually the judgment on an individual's faith will be made by Allah, it is none of our business. Only Allah knows what is in someones heart and whose faith is true or not.

And even if we suppose that money was the reason, what difference does it make to other 'Muslims'? One could argue that her faith was weak and therefore that is why she converted.

Eventually the judgment on an individual's faith will be made by Allah, it is none of our business. Only Allah knows what is in someones heart and whose faith is true or not

Agreed!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

P.S: Qadianis are not the ones carrying out suicide attacks in Pakistan's markets and streets and killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children.

'In ki nasal ko khatam kar do' (eliminate their offspring) - those were the words of non-Qadiani terrorists as they grabbed women and children by their hair and shot them in the Rawalpindi Mosque.

Focus on the true enemy.

 

[waraich66]

P.S: Qadianis are not the ones carrying out suicide attacks in Pakistan's markets and streets and killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children.

'In ki nasal ko khatam kar do' (eliminate their offspring) - those were the words of non-Qadiani terrorists as they grabbed women and children by their hair and shot them in the Rawalpindi Mosque.

Focus on the true enemy.

Our Prophet PBUH teachings tells us that who ever do any addition or subtraction in islam in not among us.

Terrorist are our open enemy but munafiq and murtid are more dangrous then terrorists.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Then why did Bhukari wrote the Hadiths ? Wasn't the writing of Hadiths an invention ? Mohamed(PBUH) never asked anybody to write Hadiths.

If you do not know about anything in a religion would be better you keep such questions to yourself. If you really wish to know, Google up the word and see with what you come and learn what Hadiths are and its relation to Islam. Don't make it a topic on this forum.

 

[apophenia]

Pakistan cannot leave Islam aside,it exists because of it. You are asking for the impossible.

Where did Pakistan come in between this debate. those where personal assertions made by an individual(s) and has nothing to do with Pakistan or Islam.

@ Fundamentalist

“Allah is never unjust in the least degree. If there is any good (done), He doubles it, and gives from His Own self a great reward.” (4:40)

words like munafiq and murtid are pretty subjective.Overindulge with those is injurious to health.

 

[waraich66]

“Allah is never unjust in the least degree. If there is any good (done), He doubles it, and gives from His Own self a great reward.” (4:40)

words like munafiq and murtid are pretty subjective.Overindulge with those is injurious to health.

[/QUOTE]

Islam is true religion and its real strength is in its five pillars faith (Qalma) ,salah,zakat,haj,sum.

Enemies of islam know this fact that is reason they always try to creat secterianism between muslims.

Allah promised to protect Quran , that is reason no one could change the words of Quran in 1400 years.

We should try to understand the Quran to protect ourself from all fitna or fasad .Quran is true quidance and can protect us from all dangers in life.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Members are advised not to change this thread into a religious one as that is not for what the thread was opened nor such discussion is allowed.

Hope members will keep the discussion to the scope of the thread opening post.

 

[apophenia]

@Fundamentalist
mindlessly delightful.

and for those labeling them as traitors need to get some reality check..

* Dr.Abdus Salam - Awarded the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1979.
*Lt.Gen Akhtar Hussain Malik - 1965 war hero
*Maj.Gen Iftikhar Janjua - 1965 war hero, killed in 1971 war
*Lt.Gen Abdul Ali Malik - War hero of Chawinda, 1965 war.....and lists goes on.

stop wearing religion on your sleeves. it wont help you here or in afterlife.

 

[Cheetah786]

saad445566

1 more thing...head of Mercedes Motors in Pakistan is a Qadiyani...Shahnawaz...

You are absolutly right this Qadiyani should be shot how dare he invest in pakistan he should fire all his employees right away and stop paying taxes to Pakistani government and Move his investments out of pakistan as we can do without every body who we dont like iam with you man we do need more smart people like you.

Oh wait we have 2 many smart people like you in pakistan and not enough stupids like that shahnawaz thats prolly why we cant even pay our bills man i am so confused what to do what to do.

 

[Cheetah786]

=Fundamentalist;594227]

Islam is true religion and its real strength is in its five pillars faith (Qalma) ,salah,zakat,haj,sum.

Enemies of islam know this fact that is reason they always try to creat secterianism between muslims.

Allah promised to protect Quran , that is reason no one could change the words of Quran in 1400 years.

We should try to understand the Quran to protect ourself from all fitna or fasad .Quran is true quidance and can protect us from all dangers in life.

In that same Quran The Almighty says it very clearly ''Rabul Almeen''

Every Bodies God am i wrong so far but when people decide to become God AND judge each other because of their beliefs you left qurans lesson behind Longs time ago.

 

[jupiter2007]

As should the 'Muslims' who abuse Blasphemy laws to persecute other non-Muslims and Qadianis.

There have been far more instances of 'Muslim' mobs riled by lies, hate and prejudice attacking Christians and other non-Muslims in Pakistan for perceived 'slights' than there have been of Qadianis attacking anyone.

Every crime should be punished, through the systems and processes established in the constitution, but don't forget that when it comes to intolerance over faith, Muslims in Pakistan need to get their own house in order before accusing others.

Qadianis are not Muslim...they will always be Non-Muslim Qadianis unless they revert to Islam. I agree, it is not just Pakistan is all over the Muslim World. I wish to see a good Islamic Utopian society where everyone is treated fairly and just.