Putin:Turkey backstabbed Russia by downing Russian warplane acted as accomplices of the terrorists

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

The downing of this russian aircraft by the Turks was extremely thoughtless----. This is an old aircraft----obsolete technology----pilot maybe in error----I don't understand what the big deal was if the aircraft strayed into Turkish territory.

They both both are not at war with each other----so why that much of an aggressive response---. They could have simply guided the aircraft out of their air space.

So---where are the Turk members on this board who were Barfing about Turkey is not going to be involved---it is not our problem---let them handle their own issues---it has nothing to do with us---.

So-----how does it feel when the fire is just barely starting to singe your skin----.

I just want my Turk brothers to know----you have not seen the bad part yet---it is just the begining----.

 

[Arminkh]

From the people I have been in touch with, this was all in the plan all the time.

Now turkish jets will not enter Syria to defend their ISIS allies because they know we will shoot them down. This allows the Kurd's to advance.

The turks have been spending too much time with the arabs. Theyve become over-reactive and easy to read.

Had they been entering Syria's airspace before?

The fact that Turkey did not try to contact Russia in the wake of the incident and rushed to call a NATO meeting instead is worrisome, Putin said. It appears that Turkey want NATO to serve the interests of IS, he added.

This is a very valid point. Why not just call Russians to wind things down?

 

[jamahir]

Turkey funds ISIS

Turkey = state sponsor of jihad

Turkey and Saudi should be nuked

perhaps you didn't read my post where i said there are many turkey citizens who want end to rule by erdogan and his ikhwaanis.

the recent ankara bombing of a peace gathering, killing 100+ and injuring 400+, has been most possibly done by the ruling akp government but they use the name of isis/isil because it is convenient to hide lot of things that way.

so a blanket phrase "turkey" cannot be used the same way "usa" or "india" or "pakistan" cannot be used because of internal political fragmentations, opinions and movements.

 

[Politico]

turkey is so screwed now

 

[Ice Cube]

perhaps you didn't read my post where i said there are many turkey citizens who want end to rule by erdogan and his ikhwaanis.

the recent ankara bombing of a peace gathering, killing 100+ and injuring 400+, has been most possibly done by the ruling akp government but they use the name of isis/isil because it is convenient to hide lot of things that way.

so a blanket phrase "turkey" cannot be used the same way "usa" or "india" or "pakistan" cannot be used because of internal political fragmentations, opinions and movements.

no time for that bs now, erdogan is muslim brotherhood jihadi, that whole country is muslim brotherhood jihadi.. they should be destroyed.

 

[jamahir]

no time for that bs now, erdogan is muslim brotherhood jihadi, that whole country is muslim brotherhood jihadi.. they should be destroyed.

should pakistan also say that india is entirely sanghi and so should be destroyed??

you are being foolish.

good evening.

 

[SiCiSi]

Had they been entering Syria's airspace before?



This is a very valid point. Why not just call Russians to wind things down?

Documented, In 2012 when the Syrians shot down one of their F4 phantoms. They dont really need to enter the airspace the Turks mainly provide material supports to IS and Al Nusra via land. This is done to keep PKK in check.

But as of this incident, they dont even have the option of entering Syrian airspace any more. And that can only be a good thing.

Also this gives us a good reason to arm the PKK with a few MANPADS just in case.

 

[Arminkh]

Documented, In 2012 when the Syrians shot down one of their F4 phantoms. They dont really need to enter the airspace the Turks mainly provide material supports to IS and Al Nusra via land. This is done to keep PKK in check.

But as of this incident, they dont even have the option of entering Syrian airspace any more. And that can only be a good thing.

Also this gives us a good reason to arm the PKK with a few MANPADS just in case.

Well what you say seem to be in line with what is happening now. Russia is adopting the following measures:

Three steps as announced by top brass:

1. Each and every strike groups’ operation is to be carried out under the guise of fighter jets
2. Air defense to be boosted with the deployment of Moskva guided missile cruiser off Latakia coast with an aim to destroy any target that may pose danger
3. Military contacts with Turkey to be suspended

 

[Vassnti]

Had they been entering Syria's airspace before?

This is a very valid point. Why not just call Russians to wind things down?

Turkey summoned the Russian ambassador to discuss the incursion Tuesday. The ambassador was summoned twice in October after Russian fighter planes breached Turkish airspace. At the time, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Turkish pilots had been instructed to intercept any Russian aircraft that enters Turkey.
The ambassador, Andrei Karlov, was summoned again Friday to protest Russian bombing of Turkmen villages in northern Syria close to the Turkish border. The ambassador was told that ongoing attacks on the villages "could lead to serious consequences," the foreign ministry said.

Diplomacy had been tried, sadly failed and a Russian pilot has paid with his life for the bravado of Putin and Erdogan.

 

[victor07]

It is already exactly known that Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down over the territory of Syria by a Turkish fighter. Turkish fighter at that time was also over the territory of Syria. The crew of the Su-24 did not expect the attack and was not warned. One of the pilots was killed after ejection in the air from the ground by mujahideen. The second pilot was rescued, with the support of the Syrian army.
Turks after the attack behaved like cowardly jackals. Instead of a direct dialogue with Russia, rushed to hide behind the NATO. Thus Turkey from supporting terrorists in Syria, without declaring war, moved to direct combat provocations against Russia on the side of the terrorists.
Current Russian military action against Turkey:
All contacts with Turkey on military lines will be discontinued.
All targets that represent a potential danger for the Russian forces over Syria will be downed. The corresponding order was given cruiser Moskva. В Генштабе рассказали об ответных мерах на сбитый Турцией Су-24
Economic measures are being addressed.
I think it would be right to arm Kurds with modern air defense weapons.
Turkey is certainly more to lose from this provocation, than gain. And the benefits from this provocation are only to United States.
Video from the side of Syrian Army of downed aircraft and rescue mission.

 

[Hack-Hook]

It is already exactly known that Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down over the territory of Syria by a Turkish fighter. Turkish fighter at that time was also over the territory of Syria. The crew of the Su-24 did not expect the attack and was not warned. One of the pilots was killed after ejection in the air from the ground by mujahideen. The second pilot was rescued, with the support of the Syrian army.
Turks after the attack behaved like cowardly jackals. Instead of a direct dialogue with Russia, rushed to hide behind the NATO. Thus Turkey from supporting terrorists in Syria, without declaring war, moved to direct combat provocations against Russia on the side of the terrorists.
Current Russian military action against Turkey:
All contacts with Turkey on military lines will be discontinued.
All targets that represent a potential danger for the Russian forces over Syria will be downed. The corresponding order was given cruiser Moskva. В Генштабе рассказали об ответных мерах на сбитый Турцией Су-24
Economic measures are being addressed.
I think it would be right to arm Kurds with modern air defense weapons.
Turkey is certainly more to lose from this provocation, than gain. And the benefits from this provocation are only to United States.
Video from the side of Syrian Army of downed aircraft and rescue mission.

well I believe the deployment of Air defense system in area is one step , but if I were Russian military planer i also deployed Iskander missiles there just to send the message that no more behavior against international norm will be tolerated .

 

[500]

Turkey backstabbed Russia:

 

[-SINAN-]

Documented, In 2012 when the Syrians shot down one of their F4 phantoms. They dont really need to enter the airspace the Turks mainly provide material supports to IS and Al Nusra via land. This is done to keep PKK in check.

There is no PKK in Syria, PKK is in North-East of the Iraq.

But as of this incident, they dont even have the option of entering Syrian airspace any more. And that can only be a good thing.

As i said zillion times before, we didn't enter for a second to Syrian airspace since 2012.

Also this gives us a good reason to arm the PKK with a few MANPADS just in case.

They already have. And if you do that, we can arm rebel groups in Syria with stingers.

 

[NUCLEAR_WINTER]

Putin tried to Play bully in Ukraine and Syria. And got smacked by Turkey and NATO grinning behind the curtains.
The irrelevant postings of chinese and Indian fanboys will not Change the fact that russia already abondoned the western/russian partnership to be the new bogeyman in eurasia.
Putin is a political pawn. he has absolutely Zero powerprojection capability. It is just funny. Maybe his chinese "allies" should help him out now. Otherwise Putin is becoming more pathetic every day from now on.
Maybe it would be wise for China to abondone russia completly and focuse on western/China partnership.
bye bye russia..

 

[Arminkh]

It is already exactly known that Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down over the territory of Syria by a Turkish fighter. Turkish fighter at that time was also over the territory of Syria. The crew of the Su-24 did not expect the attack and was not warned. One of the pilots was killed after ejection in the air from the ground by mujahideen. The second pilot was rescued, with the support of the Syrian army.
Turks after the attack behaved like cowardly jackals. Instead of a direct dialogue with Russia, rushed to hide behind the NATO. Thus Turkey from supporting terrorists in Syria, without declaring war, moved to direct combat provocations against Russia on the side of the terrorists.
Current Russian military action against Turkey:
All contacts with Turkey on military lines will be discontinued.
All targets that represent a potential danger for the Russian forces over Syria will be downed. The corresponding order was given cruiser Moskva. В Генштабе рассказали об ответных мерах на сбитый Турцией Су-24
Economic measures are being addressed.
I think it would be right to arm Kurds with modern air defense weapons.
Turkey is certainly more to lose from this provocation, than gain. And the benefits from this provocation are only to United States.
Video from the side of Syrian Army of downed aircraft and rescue mission.

Happy that at least one of the pilots is saved. I thought both were dead.