Putin says 0 Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine

[Superboy]

Putin said there were no RF troops in Crimea.....
Several days (or months i don't remember) after,he said that these soldiers were russian.....
So,who are those paratroopers that are coming back from Ukraine in body bags ?
Also,maybe the mothers,sisters,brothers,wives of these soldiers are lying ? Ah yes..... They're getting paid by west to lie.

Putin never said there were no RF troops in Crimea. It is a well known fact that there were 20,000 RF troops in Crimea in February because they were stationed in Sevastopol under a leasing deal with Ukraine.

 

[Gabriel92]

Putin never said there were no RF troops in Crimea.

Putin Denies Sending Russian Troops to Crimea

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that his country has not deployed any troops in Crimea recently and has no plans to annex the peninsula.

Putin Denies Sending Russian Troops to Crimea / Sputnik International

 

[Superboy]

Putin Denies Sending Russian Troops to Crimea



Putin Denies Sending Russian Troops to Crimea / Sputnik International

That's because 25,000 RF troops were already stationed there. So no additional RF troops were deployed to Crimea.

 

[Hindustani78]

Putin said there were no RF troops in Crimea.....
Several days (or months i don't remember) after,he said that these soldiers were russian.....
So,who are those paratroopers that are coming back from Ukraine in body bags ?
Also,maybe the mothers,sisters,brothers,wives of these soldiers are lying ? Ah yes..... They're getting paid by west to lie.

In Ukraine , we know that war is going on and people are being killed in thousands and hundred thousands are being displaced.

That's because 25,000 RF troops were already stationed there. So no additional RF troops were deployed to Crimea.

Mercenaries and Militias have even came from Russian Federation

 

[Superboy]

Mercenaries and Militias have even came from Russian Federation

Volunteers to help defend ethnic Russians of Donbas from Azov.

 

[Hindustani78]

Quoting junta is just like writing fantastic books. Think of your own head. In Crimea, there were really were Russian troops and everybody saw it. thousands of hours of video were made and tons of pictures. And none of Ukrainian soldiers did not dare to make a single shot.
If the Russian military was in the Donbas, even without aircrafts and heavy weapons, the result would be exactly the same. 80% of Ukrainian military would switch to the army of Russia, the other would have run.

I don't think so , if that would be the case then the whole Ukraine would have been become part of Russian Federation. Ukrainians wants to have their own independent country.

You should not use the term junta for the Ukrainian Establishment, there have been even statements from NATO about the presence of Russian Federation troops inside Ukraine..

Russian troops giving 'backbone' to Ukraine rebels: NATO commander - Yahoo News Canada

Volunteers to help defend ethnic Russians of Donbas from Azov.

From where they have got weapons and how they have crossed the border ? This questions matters the most , does this not means that Russian Federation was not accepting the borders of Ukrainian state ?

Civilians cant fight in war zone , those are mercenaries and militias

 

[vostok]

I don't think so , if that would be the case then the whole Ukraine would have been become part of Russian Federation. Ukrainians wants to have their own independent country.

You should not use the term junta for the Ukrainian Establishment, there have been even statements from NATO about the presence of Russian Federation troops inside Ukraine..

Russian troops giving 'backbone' to Ukraine rebels: NATO commander - Yahoo News Canada



From where they have got weapons and how they have crossed the border ? This questions matters the most , does this not means that Russian Federation was not accepting the borders of Ukrainian state ?

Civilians cant fight in war zone , those are mercenaries and militias

Why do not I use the term "junta"? They overthrew the legitimate government, expelled from the country legitimate president and seize power by force. After that began prosecution of those who do not agree with the anti-state coup. And after all unleashed a bloody war where it was easy to make agreement. And by these actions destroyed the country.
New Russia does have a Russian military experts - scouts and trainers. There are several hundreds of them. About as much as NATO scouts and trainers on the side of the junta.
But unlike NATO, Russia protects Russians against the destruction and NATO intervenes wherever should not do, as usual.
New Russians wants to have our own independent country.

 

[Hindustani78]

Why do not I use the term "junta"? They overthrew the legitimate government, expelled from the country legitimate president and seize power by force. After that began prosecution of those who do not agree with the anti-state coup. And after all unleashed a bloody war where it was easy to make agreement. And by these actions destroyed the country.

The result is in front because of Kharkiv Pact , Crimea is being annexed and regions close to Russian federation borders are seeing the death and destruction.

New Russia does have a Russian military experts - scouts and trainers. There are several hundreds of them. About as much as NATO scouts and trainers on the side of the junta.

NATO trainers are entering after the Crimea episode where as the Russian military experts, Militias and Mercenaries entered before them.

But unlike NATO, Russia protects Russians against the destruction and NATO intervenes wherever should not do, as usual.
New Russians wants to have our own independent country.

I think NATO is able to enter after the things went out of hand and violence was already started. if NATO would have involved since starting then i don't think Ukraine would have lost Crimea.

 

[Superboy]

Civilians cant fight in war zone , those are mercenaries and militias

You sure about that? American civilians have guns and they can fight very very well. In fact, half of US soldiers who fought in the US war of independence were militia.

From where they have got weapons and how they have crossed the border ?

Civilians got heavy weapons like tanks from Russia. So what? It's legal.

I don't think so , if that would be the case then the whole Ukraine would have been become part of Russian Federation. Ukrainians wants to have their own independent country.

Why would Russia annex Ukraine, a brother country?

 

[Hindustani78]

You sure about that? American civilians have guns and they can fight very very well. In fact, half of US soldiers who fought in the US war of independence were militia.

Having guns are other thing but fighting in the battle ground is a different thing as training, intelligence is even required

Civilians got heavy weapons like tanks from Russia. So what? It's legal.

Why should Russia provide them Tanks or heavy weapons ? Doesn't this means that Russian Federation doesn't accept the sovereignty of Ukraine

Why would Russia annex Ukraine, a brother country?

So what we have saw in Crimea and what we are seeing in Donetsk, Donbass etc ?

 

[vostok]

The result is in front because of Kharkiv Pact , Crimea is being annexed and regions close to Russian federation borders are seeing the death and destruction.



NATO trainers are entering after the Crimea episode where as the Russian military experts, Militias and Mercenaries entered before them.




I think NATO is able to enter after the things went out of hand and violence was already started. if NATO would have involved since starting then i don't think Ukraine would have lost Crimea.

If you still do not know - that was maidan led to violence. Maidan, which was supported by Western hypocrites. Maidan activists began to chase and kill dissidents. Only after that the free people of New Russia openly declared that they would not remain under the authority of the junta.
Of course, Russia helps Russian, how could it be otherwise??? I think it helps not enough, because if Russian liberation troops entered the whole territory of the of New Russia, the bloodshed could have been avoided, like in Crimea.
However, the higher the price of independence - the stronger its foundation. This means that the New Russia will be rich, proud and strong country.

 

[Superboy]

Why should Russia provide them Tanks or heavy weapons ? Doesn't this means that Russian Federation doesn't accept the sovereignty of Ukraine

The US accepts the sovereignty of Syria. Why does the US provide thousands of TOW anti tank missiles to terrorists in Syria. Putin has never accepted the legitimacy of the Ukrainian government, which, like the one in Egypt, came to power through a coup against a democratically elected government whose election was observed by international observers.

So what we have saw in Crimea and what we are seeing in Donetsk, Donbass etc ?

Russia has never recognized Crimea as part of Ukraine. From Russia's point of view, Crimea has been under Ukrainian occupation since 1991. From Russia's point of view, Russia has never annexed any part of Ukraine.

 

[Hindustani78]

If you still do not know - that was maidan led to violence. Maidan, which was supported by Western hypocrites. Maidan activists began to chase and kill dissidents. Only after that the free people of New Russia openly declared that they would not remain under the authority of the junta.
Of course, Russia helps Russian, how could it be otherwise??? I think it helps not enough, because if Russian liberation troops entered the whole territory of the of New Russia, the bloodshed could have been avoided, like in Crimea.
However, the higher the price of independence - the stronger its foundation. This means that the New Russia will be rich, proud and strong country.

If i am not wrong protests erupted in the capital, Kiev after the Ukrainian government suspended signing agreement between Ukraine and EU association agreement in November 2013 which let to violence. Ukrainians wanted to be part of EU and have better life and now there have already signed that agreement with EU and one after another EU countries are ratifying it.

Polish Senate ratifies EU-Ukraine Association Agreement - Poroshenko
Croatia ratifies EU-Ukraine Association Agreement - Klimkin
Denmark ratifies EU-Ukraine Association Agreement – Ukrainian foreign minister


These protests in real destroyed the economy and led for more violence and it ended in annexation of Crimea and other Ukrainian regions. And now what we are seeing that countries like Belarus and Kazakhstan which are part of CTSO are trying to work for the solution.

Nazarbayev urges Russia, Ukraine to reach compromise over Donbas
"I am asking Russia and Ukraine to think about a compromise in order to end this conflict and preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine, because this situation [the Donbas conflict] is nonsense and it should not have happened," Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev said after his negotiations with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in Kyiv on Monday.

He said the confrontation and sanctions "were a road to an impasse and a path to nowhere."

The Ukrainian and Kazakh presidents confirmed the importance of the Minsk agreements for the peace process.

The US accepts the sovereignty of Syria. Why does the US provide thousands of TOW anti tank missiles to terrorists in Syria. Putin has never accepted the legitimacy of the Ukrainian government, which, like the one in Egypt, came to power through a coup against a democratically elected government whose election was observed by international observers.

Case of Syria which started with corruption and governance issues which were internal issues and the Syrian Port of Tartus etc was the major issue. United States weapons and equipment were over run in Iraq which are in the hands of all the groups. Arab Spring is successful only in Tunisia.

Russia has never recognized Crimea as part of Ukraine. From Russia's point of view, Crimea has been under Ukrainian occupation since 1991. From Russia's point of view, Russia has never annexed any part of Ukraine.

Russian Federation and Ukraine did signed agreements in 1990 that Crimea will be part of Ukraine and Russian federation will station naval fleet at Sevastopol. Crimean Tatars return back to Crimea under Ukraine sovereignty and these tatars were deported under the Soviet rule to Uzbek SSR.

 

[Superboy]

Russian Federation and Ukraine did signed agreements in 1990 that Crimea will be part of Ukraine and Russian federation will station naval fleet at Sevastopol. Crimean Tatars return back to Crimea under Ukraine sovereignty and these tatars were deported under the Soviet rule to Uzbek SSR.

The treaty was signed with the Kuchma government, not with the coup regime. The treaty is therefore null and Russia is not obligated to abide by the treaty.

Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[vostok]

If i am not wrong protests erupted in the capital, Kiev after the Ukrainian government suspended signing agreement between Ukraine and EU association agreement in November 2013 which let to violence. Ukrainians wanted to be part of EU and have better life and now there have already signed that agreement with EU and one after another EU countries are ratifying it.

Polish Senate ratifies EU-Ukraine Association Agreement - Poroshenko
Croatia ratifies EU-Ukraine Association Agreement - Klimkin
Denmark ratifies EU-Ukraine Association Agreement – Ukrainian foreign minister


These protests in real destroyed the economy and led for more violence and it ended in annexation of Crimea and other Ukrainian regions. And now what we are seeing that countries like Belarus and Kazakhstan which are part of CTSO are trying to work for the solution.

Nazarbayev urges Russia, Ukraine to reach compromise over Donbas
"I am asking Russia and Ukraine to think about a compromise in order to end this conflict and preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine, because this situation [the Donbas conflict] is nonsense and it should not have happened," Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev said after his negotiations with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in Kyiv on Monday.

He said the confrontation and sanctions "were a road to an impasse and a path to nowhere."

The Ukrainian and Kazakh presidents confirmed the importance of the Minsk agreements for the peace process.



Case of Syria which started with corruption and governance issues which were internal issues and the Syrian Port of Tartus etc was the major issue. United States weapons and equipment were over run in Iraq which are in the hands of all the groups. Arab Spring is successful only in Tunisia.





Russian Federation and Ukraine did signed agreements in 1990 that Crimea will be part of Ukraine and Russian federation will station naval fleet at Sevastopol. Crimean Tatars return back to Crimea under Ukraine sovereignty and these tatars were deported under the Soviet rule to Uzbek SSR.

Yanukovych before the elections promised to return the Russian language the state status and promised integration with Russia. That's why he won the election. However, after less than three months, he forgot his promises and began to flirt with the West. In fact, he betrayed his people. Therefore, nobody sorry about him even in New Russia.
However, in late 2013, he still managed to lead the country away from the abyss of euro-integration. From Russia came a lot of businessmen. Russia has pledged $ 15 billion in loans. And tens of billions of dollars of investments. Only one city Nikolaev (Russian shipbuilders town) had to get five billion dollars. For the first time since the Soviet era factories have to be upgraded.
What did the West? Brought stupid monkeys to the maidan. That's all. Now, no money, no legitimate authorities.
Free people of New Russia are not willing to follow the path of European integration. Our destiny - forever with Russia. Because Russia - our Mother and our Motherland.