Putin Orders Troop Pullback From Ukraine Border: Kremlin

[sree45]

Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his defence minister to pull thousands of troops from the border with Ukraine, the Kremlin said ahead of key talks on a fragile truce in the ex-Soviet country.

"The head of state has tasked the defence minister with beginning to bring troops back to their permanent bases," the Kremlin said late yesterday evening.

The Kremlin said the order meant that 17,600 servicemen, who had in the summer participated in military drills in the southern Rostov region on the border with Ukraine, would be pulled back.

Defence minister Sergei Shoigu received the order after reporting that "summertime training on military ranges of the Southern military district is over," the Kremlin said.

The yesterday meeting between Putin and his defence minister took place after the president chaired a meeting of his national security council, said the Kremlin, without providing further details.

Putin is expected to meet Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko for key talks on the sidelines of a Asia-Europe forum in Milan on Friday.

Kiev reported that pro-Moscow rebel attacks had subsided and Poroshenko said for his part the two would discuss the fragile truce agreed last month.

Putin Orders Troop Pullback From Ukraine Border: Kremlin

 

[gau8av]

Smart move, apart from Donetsk airport the cease fire seems to be holding for now. Putin is using the relative calm to ease some of the sanctions pressures on Russia. If Kiev initiates another offensive I'm sure they'll be quickly redeployed and covert support to the donbass militias will resume again.

 

[Superboy]

Smart move, apart from Donetsk airport the cease fire seems to be holding for now. Putin is using the relative calm to ease some of the sanctions pressures on Russia. If Kiev initiates another offensive I'm sure they'll be quickly redeployed and covert support to the donbass militias will resume again.

For a state, money is unlimited. Sanctions that only mean something real would be banning of selling consumer products like automobiles and electronics products to Russia.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Putin is a shrewd pragmatist. He made the best of what for Russia was a bad situation. He occupies the Crimea and will never give it back. He has proven to the Ukraine that he swill send the army in if they veer too far afield, politically. The down side for Putin is that Russia's reputation has suffered immensely, in the international community as well as Putin's personally and the sanctions had some real teeth, as well as the capital flight out of Russia speeding the downward slump in Russia's economy. He knows that while anti-western sentiment is always a good card to play internally, he nevertheless needs to repair as much as he can, the strained relationship with the West. Russia's future depends on it.

 

[Globenim]

The down side for Putin is that Russia's reputation has suffered immensely, in the international community.

By internatinal community you mean the U.S. lead NATO wolf pack,
Because in any 'democratic' sense the internation community sides with Russia or abstains to welcome the U.S. enforced violent regime changes and meddling in foreign countries affairs.

 

[Desertfalcon]

By internatinal community you mean the U.S. lead NATO wolf pack,
Because in any 'democratic' sense the internation community sides with Russia or abstains to welcome the U.S. enforced violent regime changes and meddling in foreign countries affairs.

No, I pretty much mean the world...

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Russia’s Global Image Negative amid Crisis in Ukraine | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

Most of the world trusts Obama over Putin to ‘do the right thing’ | Pew Research Center

Only 11 countries in the world voted against UN resolution 68/262.

 

[gau8av]

Putin is a shrewd pragmatist. He made the best of what for Russia was a bad situation. He occupies the Crimea and will never give it back. He has proven to the Ukraine that he swill send the army in if they veer too far afield, politically. The down side for Putin is that Russia's reputation has suffered immensely, in the international community as well as Putin's personally and the sanctions had some real teeth, as well as the capital flight out of Russia speeding the downward slump in Russia's economy. He knows that while anti-western sentiment is always a good card to play internally, he nevertheless needs to repair as much as he can, the strained relationship with the West. Russia's future depends on it.

Crimea ? come on, man.. everyone in the US establishment knows that was pretty legit, Crimea was a masterstroke, go visit and see for yourself..

Reputation ? on the contrary, apart from obviously within Russia, he's a super popular leader everywhere, all over the Islamic world of course because they view him as anti US as well as in China, and not for the same reasons the Jihadists like him, and India and all over the planet as well.

the sanctions, while not as effective as they would have been against a lesser nation, have finally begun to gnaw away at the Russian economy, he needs to fix that and he will.

Kiev's current rulers, the EU and the US should forget about Crimea, the donbass is also gone from EU/US control, fight an unwinnable proxy war or work with the Kremlin, and the Kremlin's goals here might not be all in tune with the donbass people, very messy situation.

but good for Russia they have him to see them through this.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Crimea ? come on, man.. everyone in the US establishment knows that was pretty legit, Crimea was a masterstroke, go visit and see for yourself..

Reputation ? on the contrary, apart from obviously within Russia, he's a super popular leader everywhere, all over the Islamic world of course

Apparently you did not bother to actually click on and read my links or are you one of those PDF posters who go by the, "all your facts are part of a Western/UN/CIA conspiracy and none of them are true" defence?

100 countries around the world condemned Putin's actions in the Ukraine in a UN resolution calling for Russian withdrawal and only 11 countries supported him. I would call that as less than popular. Incidentally, Putin's unfavourable rating in world surveys is highest in Europe, then the USA, and where is he the third most unpopular? The Middle East. Check my links.

 

[gau8av]

Apparently you did not bother to actually click on and read my links or are you one of those PDF posters who go by the, "all your facts are part of a Western/UN/CIA conspiracy and none of them are true" defence?

no, though I have been guilty of getting on here after a beer or 2 on occasion

100 countries around the world condemned Putin's actions in the Ukraine in a UN resolution calling for Russian withdrawal and only 11 countries supported him. I would call that as less than popular. Incidentally, Putin's unfavourable rating in world surveys is highest in Europe, then the USA, and where is he the third most unpopular? The Middle East. Check my links.

33.8% approved (full of NATO and smaller lesser significant players on the global stage)

58% abstained (that's just diplomatic niceties, this lot mostly rejects the western stance)

4.5% rejected (no surprises there, open hostilities with the US/blanket loyalty to Russia in all of those cases)

 

[420canada]

Putin is a shrewd pragmatist. He made the best of what for Russia was a bad situation. He occupies the Crimea and will never give it back. He has proven to the Ukraine that he swill send the army in if they veer too far afield, politically. The down side for Putin is that Russia's reputation has suffered immensely, in the international community as well as Putin's personally and the sanctions had some real teeth, as well as the capital flight out of Russia speeding the downward slump in Russia's economy. He knows that while anti-western sentiment is always a good card to play internally, he nevertheless needs to repair as much as he can, the strained relationship with the West. Russia's future depends on it.

not to say that putin destroyed his image but as far as western society goes no body gives a rats behind. Putin and russia and the whole crimea issue will go into a history book and that that.

 

[Desertfalcon]

no, though I have been guilty of getting on here after a beer or 2 on occasion

Well, that's still better than calling your ex-girlfriend after a few drinks.

33.8% approved (full of NATO and smaller lesser significant players on the global stage)

58% abstained (that's just diplomatic niceties, this lot mostly rejects the western stance)

4.5% rejected (no surprises there, open hostilities with the US/blanket loyalty to Russia in all of those cases)

Who taught you math? 100 members out of 193 total=52% NOT 34%. 38% abstained and 12.4% were absent. Indeed, if one uses only the number of members present then 59.2% of the assembly voted against Putin and only 6.5% supported him.

But you are counting absent members and abstaining members as if they had an opinion. I can play that game too...

Out of 193 member states in the United Nations General Assembly only 11 countries supported Putin in UN Resolution 68/262.

 

[Steve781]

Putin has never wanted to annex the Donbass. What he wants is two things:
1) A written, absolute guarantee that Ukraine will never join NATO
2) Extensive autonomy for Ukraine's regions so that those who identify with Russia rather than Europe can maintain closer ties to her.

 

[mike2000]

Apparently you did not bother to actually click on and read my links or are you one of those PDF posters who go by the, "all your facts are part of a Western/UN/CIA conspiracy and none of them are true" defence?

100 countries around the world condemned Putin's actions in the Ukraine in a UN resolution calling for Russian withdrawal and only 11 countries supported him. I would call that as less than popular. Incidentally, Putin's unfavourable rating in world surveys is highest in Europe, then the USA, and where is he the third most unpopular? The Middle East. Check my links.

Bro dont bother talking sense to Indians on here about Russia. They will still support their Patron Russia no matter what Russia does wrong or not. For they still rely on Russia for almost all their critical defence needs, from nuclear submarines to aircraft carriers to fighter jets etc In fact Without Moscow they will lag behind even more than they are already militarily. Russia has indeed help them alot/keeps helping them militarily, though it gets lots of dollars from this.

So dont expect India to criticize Russia ever,no matter what. Well not until they have found a new replacement for Russia(maybe the U.S).

Finally, i dont blame them, in their situation i will do the same. For each and every country ought to look out for its own interests. For now they still rely on Russia , so it wont be in their interests going against their long time patron Russia/U.S.S.R. Maybe the U.S can change that with time, but it will be huge task and will take time.

 

[Desertfalcon]

Putin has never wanted to annex the Donbass. What he wants is two things:
1) A written, absolute guarantee that Ukraine will never join NATO
2) Extensive autonomy for Ukraine's regions so that those who identify with Russia rather than Europe can maintain closer ties to her.

I think that is spot on.

 

[Globenim]

No, I pretty much mean the world...

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Russia’s Global Image Negative amid Crisis in Ukraine | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project

Most of the world trusts Obama over Putin to ‘do the right thing’ | Pew Research Center

Only 11 countries in the world voted against UN resolution 68/262. enjoy

Thank you for proving you just mean your NATO wolfpack "international community" in the usual sense of U.S. propaganda, not the real international community.

Majority of the world is not in favor of NATO terror or "against" Russia. Not even in your little crimea referendum which is a completely different matter than you talked about before. Don't waste your time with cheap little tricks like that. No one will fall for that.